Page 10 | Harry's new interview

MrsMitford3 · 02/05/2025 19:43

SnoozingFox · 02/05/2025 18:02

"He won't speak to me because of the security stuff".

Fuck me. How can you be so unaware. They are not speaking to you Hazza because you slated the entire family in an Oprah interview, in a Netflix documentary, and in your fecking book.

Dim and entitled. California are welcome to him.

Reminds me so much of Downton Abbey.

Thomas a corrupt and thieving footman says (about Lord Grantham)
"He doesn't trust me"
Miss O"Brien "Is it because of the stealing??"

Yes it bloody well is!!!!

Have a look Harry!!!!!

IcedPurple · 02/05/2025 19:44

he is also saying that this is different to PMs - who get security regardless of risk assessments and other high profile figures

I really can't see why a former PM, who had access to state secrets and has made powerful enemies around the world, would be of more importance to national security than the bloke who promotes a life coaching app in California.

It's weird.

2024onwardsandup · 02/05/2025 19:45

Serenster · 02/05/2025 19:38

he is also saying that this is different to PMs - who get security regardless of risk assessments and other high profile figures

Yes, this is true. And also entirely logical.

Ex-prime ministers and probably other politicians (we aren’t told who, for obvious reasons) do get security, likely for life, after the leave office. They have actual political power in their roles, and will have made decisions and committed the UK to actions that will have made them domestic and international enemies. Plus we know very well that people target, and murder, politicians. They have a higher risk profile than other people in public life - but still, they don’t all get protected.

Ordinary citizens (like Salman Rushdie) exceptionally qualify for public security because they face an extraordinary level of threat. Generally though, members of the public don’t get protected even if there are credible threats against them, from ex-partners for example.

Members of the Royal Family also face a threat because of their role, but from the level of security that we can observe they are given, we can deduce that the view is that the sovereign, those in the direct line of succession, and those undertaking public royal engagements face the highest ever of threat. If they are not in those categories, they don’t get protection.

Yeah I get your point

but I think if I was Harry I’d think why should I ever have to worry about security when I was born into this and didn’t choose it

and I have great sympathy for his point. Security assessments get it wrong, I don’t think it’s disputed that Meghan Markle got a credible threats, he’s got little kids.

again - I think he is a thicko dickhead - but I don’t think his security arrangements should have changed when his “working royal” status changed.

but yeah I mean there are better ways to handle things than this car crash interview I’ve just watched

IcedPurple · 02/05/2025 19:48

2024onwardsandup · 02/05/2025 19:45

Yeah I get your point

but I think if I was Harry I’d think why should I ever have to worry about security when I was born into this and didn’t choose it

and I have great sympathy for his point. Security assessments get it wrong, I don’t think it’s disputed that Meghan Markle got a credible threats, he’s got little kids.

again - I think he is a thicko dickhead - but I don’t think his security arrangements should have changed when his “working royal” status changed.

but yeah I mean there are better ways to handle things than this car crash interview I’ve just watched

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He lives in California, not London.

If he thinks there is a great threat to him and his 'little kids', whom he and his wife regularly leave at home while they travel abroad, shouldn't he be pressuring the California authorities for official police protection?

And security assessments get it wrong, yes. But RAVEC have an excellent record and unless you know better than them, there's no reason to believe they've got it wrong on this occasion.

Are you saying that British taxpayers should be funding him to gallivant around California? It sounds as though you are.

And the 'didn't chose it' is a complete non argument. None of us choose the circumstances of our birth, including those born into vastly less privileged situations than a Prince of the realm.

Eggybreadwithnuts · 02/05/2025 19:48

Wow listening to the interview....wow some of what he saying.

There's going to be a book Im sure.

Willyoujustbequiet · 02/05/2025 19:51

He never learns does he.

2024onwardsandup · 02/05/2025 19:52

IcedPurple · 02/05/2025 19:48

He lives in California, not London.

If he thinks there is a great threat to him and his 'little kids', whom he and his wife regularly leave at home while they travel abroad, shouldn't he be pressuring the California authorities for official police protection?

And security assessments get it wrong, yes. But RAVEC have an excellent record and unless you know better than them, there's no reason to believe they've got it wrong on this occasion.

Are you saying that British taxpayers should be funding him to gallivant around California? It sounds as though you are.

And the 'didn't chose it' is a complete non argument. None of us choose the circumstances of our birth, including those born into vastly less privileged situations than a Prince of the realm.

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Yeah. I’ve changed my mind again.

I do feel terribly sorry for the children though. What an absolute shitshow for them to grow up with

Somethingthecatdraggedin7 · 02/05/2025 19:54

EsmaCannonball · 02/05/2025 18:20

He's also completely out of touch with real life and the political temperature. Does he really imagine that right now Keir Starmer would think it a good idea to divert taxes so that a pair of mid-level California influencers can have a highly-trained security team on permanent call in the UK? Would that be a vote-winner?

Aside from that, just how miserable can someone so fortunate be? All his problems seem personality-based rather than actual material issues. I guess it doesn't help when you have Iago whispering in your ear, stoking all your grievances.

I see MM more as Grima Wormtongue

cumbriaisbest · 02/05/2025 19:54

Maddy70 · 02/05/2025 18:00

Eh. Charles is an elderly man. An entirely understandable thing to say about someone of that age

When you are not elderly you don't think these things. I am and I would absolutely hate it if anybody said that about me, my friends,my partner.

JudgeJ · 02/05/2025 19:55

PigglyWigglyOhYeah · 02/05/2025 19:35

She was faithful to Dodi Fayed

She only went out with him for about ten minutes, and also used Harry and William to manipulate the press during that time. You really don’t know what you are talking about. Ask Julia Carling.

And all the other wives whose husbands she shared.

HerNeighbourTotoro · 02/05/2025 19:55

TasWair · 02/05/2025 17:53

It really is not a shocking thing to say about an elderly man. The context is that Charles isn't talking to him, and that Harry wants to make amends because life is short.
I can't envisage any situation where I wouldn't talk to my children tbh, even if I didn't approve of the way they live or of their spouse. It must be absolutely awful for Harry that his father won't speak to him, but seems to have forgiven the horrific transgressions of his brother, Andrew.

Maybe Harry should talk to his dad, not a journalist?

Screamingabdabz · 02/05/2025 19:57

Baital · 02/05/2025 19:30

Of course. No reason why he should like her.

No reason why his father should like his choice of wife either.

The grown up thing to do is be civil and respect each other's choice. Which Charles seems to have done wrt Meghan, she was welcomed into the family far earlier than other girlfriends, the big wedding etc

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As a tax payer I’m still fuming about that ‘big wedding’. All that waving at the muggles from the carriage. They may as well have been laughing and throwing the Vs. She knew she was going to get the ring on it and then fuck off asap.

RingForMiddleFinger · 02/05/2025 19:57

SpottedDonkey · 02/05/2025 18:55

Father, you are old and ill but if you ever want to see me and my children again then this security issue is the one and only thing preventing it.'

Exactly this. He is weaponising his children to get what he wants from his father. Telling a sick old man that unless he caves in, he will never see his grandchildren again. That’s appallingly selfish behaviour, even for someone as nasty and embittered as Harry.

And we all know who is really to blame for poisoning his mind and tearing his family apart. If I said what I really thought about Meghan I would be permanently banned from MN, so 🤐

He is also contradicting himself. If he wanted Charles to meet his Cali grandchildren, he'd get the full security assessment plus castle accomodation as the visit would be coordinated by the palace.

It's 100% eat cake and have it scenario, he's blind to his own privilege.

He breaks every rule in the royal family's etiquette and standards book but wants full recognition and benefits of being a royal.

In another, more ancient and less enlightened era in history, Harry'd probably go after William and his heirs for the throne and then be the cruel and absurd tyrant.

He said twice Charles should step aside to let the experts do their job, can you imagine anyone ever speaking about the late queen this way? Repeating 'life is precious' so many time while also saying no one knows how long Charles has left, he is soooooo rude. He's thrown the rule book in the bin, he has no basic respect and he's certainly not being clever. Meghan and harry seem all over the shop. It's nuts.

Fiver555 · 02/05/2025 19:58

I agree with him a bit about having been born into it, and therefore should keep getting the security. What I don't understand is why he keeps saying him and Meghan wanted to keep doing the job but the RF wouldn't let them. What does he mean? I thought he wanted to 'leave the institution'?

sualipa · 02/05/2025 19:58

Eggybreadwithnuts · 02/05/2025 19:48

Wow listening to the interview....wow some of what he saying.

There's going to be a book Im sure.

If the BRF won’t bury the hatchet, then Harry might as well use it. Could be even more explosive than Spare 1.

Breame · 02/05/2025 19:58

2024onwardsandup · 02/05/2025 19:52

Yeah. I’ve changed my mind again.

I do feel terribly sorry for the children though. What an absolute shitshow for them to grow up with

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Yes, and I expect they will also learn to write books about their shift show from their parents 🍿

Meadowfinch · 02/05/2025 19:58

After all this time, time in which he should have matured, Harry is still all 'me, me, me'.

He still doesn't get it does he? He CHOSE to cease to be a working royal, he CHOSE to leave the UK, he CHOSE to write that cringingly embarrassing book, to give those ghastly interviews, he CHOSE to take legal action against his own family.

The British royal family have moved on. They have their hands full with health worries, and their work in a struggling and divided UK. They are busy and reforming around the king,.

If Harry genuinely wants reconciliation, he needs to go back to his home in the US, stop blabbing to anyone who will listen, start showing some discretion and professionalism, stop his wife from cashing in on her non-existent HRH status, and stop whining.

In time, he will get his wish.

sualipa · 02/05/2025 19:59

Screamingabdabz · 02/05/2025 19:57

As a tax payer I’m still fuming about that ‘big wedding’. All that waving at the muggles from the carriage. They may as well have been laughing and throwing the Vs. She knew she was going to get the ring on it and then fuck off asap.

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£100 million on the Coronation - get over it.

Superhansrantowindsor · 02/05/2025 20:00

What will William do when he is King? Strip their titles I hope. Is that even possible?

Eggybreadwithnuts · 02/05/2025 20:00

Wow...

He cant say who was involved out of the royal household....yet

He can forgive his father, brother and step-mother

IcedPurple · 02/05/2025 20:00

Fiver555 · 02/05/2025 19:58

I agree with him a bit about having been born into it, and therefore should keep getting the security. What I don't understand is why he keeps saying him and Meghan wanted to keep doing the job but the RF wouldn't let them. What does he mean? I thought he wanted to 'leave the institution'?

I agree with him a bit about having been born into it, and therefore should keep getting the security.

Why?

Simply being a prince doesn't guarantee you lifetime security.

Are you happy to pay millions a year for Harry to gallivant around California and beyond? A few weeks ago he, Meghan and the kids were in 3 different locations. You think British taxpayers should be paying for 3 separate security details?

catlover123456789 · 02/05/2025 20:00

He talks in riddles. The clearest thing he said was that he doesn't know how long Charles has left. His family won't speak to him because they are worried he will make it all public in his next tell-all.
I think his money is running out, he spent a fortune on the house in California and on these court cases. Meghan needs to sell more jam.

JoyousEagle · 02/05/2025 20:01

RingForMiddleFinger · 02/05/2025 19:57

He is also contradicting himself. If he wanted Charles to meet his Cali grandchildren, he'd get the full security assessment plus castle accomodation as the visit would be coordinated by the palace.

It's 100% eat cake and have it scenario, he's blind to his own privilege.

He breaks every rule in the royal family's etiquette and standards book but wants full recognition and benefits of being a royal.

In another, more ancient and less enlightened era in history, Harry'd probably go after William and his heirs for the throne and then be the cruel and absurd tyrant.

He said twice Charles should step aside to let the experts do their job, can you imagine anyone ever speaking about the late queen this way? Repeating 'life is precious' so many time while also saying no one knows how long Charles has left, he is soooooo rude. He's thrown the rule book in the bin, he has no basic respect and he's certainly not being clever. Meghan and harry seem all over the shop. It's nuts.

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Yes, it’s nonsense to say his family aren’t safe in the UK. If they came to visit Charles and stayed in Buckingham Palace/Kensington Palace/windsor castle/other royal residence, they’d be incredibly safe.

IcedPurple · 02/05/2025 20:01

sualipa · 02/05/2025 19:58

If the BRF won’t bury the hatchet, then Harry might as well use it. Could be even more explosive than Spare 1.

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Nothing screams a desire for family reconciliation more than a threat to release an 'explosive' tell all if you don't get your way.

Fiver555 · 02/05/2025 20:02

IcedPurple · 02/05/2025 20:00

I agree with him a bit about having been born into it, and therefore should keep getting the security.

Why?

Simply being a prince doesn't guarantee you lifetime security.

Are you happy to pay millions a year for Harry to gallivant around California and beyond? A few weeks ago he, Meghan and the kids were in 3 different locations. You think British taxpayers should be paying for 3 separate security details?

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Oh, you're right, sorry - I was thinking he just wanted the security when he visited the UK. You're absolutely right that we shouldn't be arranging and paying for it all elsewhere, if course not.