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Being Mr. Meghan Markle is no honeymoon (The Spectator)

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Thedom · 30/04/2025 07:11

Sorry, archive not working, so posted the whole article here.

Interesting tidbit about his turn at the aviation thingy, he was either joking and it landed like a lead balloon or he was being sarcasric about being railroaded into having to cough up for a few tables (probably the latter knowing how he hates to pay for anything)

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“Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are finally enjoying their “honeymoon period.” Or they are according to the Duchess of Sussex, who made the statement on a fawning podcast as part of a brand building media blitz – and who certainly seems to be enjoying herself.

But has she asked her husband if he’s reveling in their belated honeymoon quite as much as she is? Once the spare to the throne, his presence as her forlorn shadow at events to honor her now appears largely surplus to requirements even to Meghan.

“That man loves me so much,” she gushed on Montecito neighbor Jamie Kern Lima’s podcast on Monday. She likened their relationship to a video game where you “slay the dragon, save the princess.” An analogy that firmly implies she is the glittering prize and he should be happy with winning her hand.

“You have to imagine, at the beginning, everyone has butterflies, and then we immediately went into the trenches together right out of the gate, six months into dating,” Meghan added. “So now, seven years later when you have a little bit of breathing space, you can just enjoy each other in a new way, and that’s why I feel like it’s more of a honeymoon period for us now.”

As ever, Meghan’s truth does not necessarily accord with everyone else’s reality.

It’s been a tough week for Harry as Mr. Meghan Markle. His wife undermined his latest warning about the dangers of social media for children by posting photos of their own children on Instagram. He bombed at the Hollywood aviation awards. And he was snubbed by Meghan at the Time100 Summit.

All while his brother Prince William looked every bit the senior statesman with world leaders at the Pope’s funeral in Rome.

Harry’s public troubles began in New York last week. While unveiling a memorial dedicated to the memory of children whose families believe harmful online behavior contributed to their deaths, he demanded stronger protection for young people from the dangers of social media. He was “grateful” that his children were still too young to be online, he said.

Too young, that is, unless Archie and Lilibet are helping Meghan promote her brands.

Meghan used their three-year-old daughter to promote her jam, or rather “preserves” as she calls them (jam has too much sugar, apparently), on social media on Sunday. She posted an Instagram Story showing her stirring her homemade strawberry preserves, saying, “What do you think Lili?” A child’s hand can be seen and a voice purporting to be Lili – but sounding strangely AI – is heard saying, “I think it’s beautiful.”

Meghan also posted Instagram pictures of Lili and son Archie, five, in her rose garden, tastefully obscuring their beautiful red hair and faces. How discrete.

Harry’s woes were compounded during his trip to New York by his wife’s apparent lack of interest in him. When he stepped out of the couple’s car at the TIME event on Wednesday, he reached out to Meghan to hold her hand. But – right in front of the waiting paparazzi – she ignored him, turned away and instead enthusiastically hugged a woman waiting to greet her.

A blushing Harry grimaced, as if he instantly knew the media would seize on it (he was correct), then awkwardly adjusted the back waistband of his trousers under his jacket and dutifully trotted through a door behind his wife as she was ushered in by staff and security. Was it take your husband to work day?

Once inside the auditorium at Jazz at Lincoln Center, Harry was forced to take a literal back seat, applauding enthusiastically from the audience as Meghan trotted out some of her signature lines, such as, “Part of what is really, really important is that love language of taking care of people also feeds me.”

Meghan, wearing a $4,000 Ralph Lauren suit, gave her soft keynote speech promoting her show, podcast, lifestyle brand and family. This marked a stark contrast with the other speakers, such as Yulia Navalnaya, who talked about fighting for human rights after her late husband, the prominent Russian opposition leader and critic of President Vladimir Putin, died in prison.

Making Harry’s recent “whining” about being stripped of his UK security details seem petty. Then Harry was off – alone – to the Living Legends of Aviation Awards, where last year he was honored for his work as an Apache helicopter pilot in Afghanistan.

From the stage at the Beverly Hills Hotel on Friday, Harry thanked the first responders who risked their lives to save those devastated by the California fires, but also took a petulant shot at organizers with a joke that didn’t land well. “I feel like I picked the short straw,” he began.

“Someone had to host a bunch of pilots and firefighters, that’s where they are, there are five tables. I agreed with the organizers that it would be a good idea, let’s get them along. I did not agree to hosting two of the tables.”

The sad contrast with William could not be more obvious, royal biographer, writer and broadcaster Hugo Vickers tells The Spectator. “One of them is doing a good job for the United Kingdom and the Commonwealth. And the other’s doing nothing.”

Vickers believes Haz, as he is nicknamed by Meghan, is hanging on to his wife for dear life, “Harry is petrified of her and petrified of losing her. It is a nasty syndrome. And maybe I’m wrong, maybe they’re blissfully happy, but he doesn’t look happy.

“Now he’s just sort of dangling about in the background of Meghan’s various other things she’s promoting.”

Vickers added that the Sussex children’s appearances on Meghan’s Instagram makes them “awful pawns in the middle of this game.”

“All this gooey talk that you get from Meghan about connectivity and love and stuff doesn’t seem to extend to her own family, does it? She’s playing silly games with them. I just have a horrible feeling it’s all going to end badly somehow.”

How much longer can this go on? The old Harry, with his jack-the-lad swagger and roguish sense of humor, was hugely popular with the public, the royals and the media. His former friends, who were pushed aside when he met Meghan, miss that version of Harry. We miss that Harry.

Perhaps it is time for the prince to pack away his paranoia, apologize and start building bridges with his father, brother and the media, if it is not too late and he loses the petering goodwill toward him that still remains. That couldn’t possibly be more humiliating than this flower-sprinkled existence as Mr. Meghan Markle.”

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foreverblowingbubbless · 01/05/2025 11:24

@Rummly I agree with you there.

I think it is the non stop outpouring of social media garbage that is fascinating. Just when you think she has looked a bit ridiculous - Hunter wellies and a massive basket of roses ( why would you desecrate them ?) she does something even more ludicrous . You are thinking " does she realise how ridiculous she looks?" . She is destroying day by day any little credibility that she had left and all that is left is this grifter image - a person who would sell anything about herself and her family for attention. She is a media you know what.

I'm not even sure it is about the money . It's the "image" that she perceives comes with this. She was told by her mother she was " special" . Maybe Doria was being kind but then Doria was missing for a large part of Meghan's childhood so where does that leave Meghan ? Vying for attention, for love and how to get this . She admitted in the recent podcast she was always trying to PROVE herself.

We have all seen it is about the love her friends have for HER , the love her children have for HER. At times I think she is seriously unwell and this is all going to come to a grinding explosive halt.

foreverblowingbubbless · 01/05/2025 11:30

StartupRepair · 01/05/2025 08:05

Saying Phil the Greek is itself a racist slur which he had to endure for decades.

The thing is it's ok to be racist about certain groups but not others. These people would be the same people supporting Meghan in her racism claim. Imagine if someone on here were to describe Meghan as whatever offensive word .

foreverblowingbubbless · 01/05/2025 11:35

I could call out Meghan for anti semitism by sending an octopus gift to Alex Bereford. I won't because I'm not an idiot but it is a well known antisemitic caricature. Again racism only seems to apply to certain people.

Being Mr. Meghan Markle is no honeymoon (The Spectator)
Lunde · 01/05/2025 12:46

It's odd that one year on Harry still doesn't seem to understand how these US pay to play charity "awards" really work.

Last year he looked askance when he was shown to table #100 and something at the back with the charity's staff rather than being at the front with the A-listers ... he didn't seem to get the tacit understanding that award recipients are expected to make a charity donation by buying a table for the event for 6-12 people.

This year he makes it very awkward by having a pop at the organisers for asking him to host a couple of tables for community aviators that fought the LA fires - which seems very ungracious and tone deaf at this sort of event. He also walked off and left the event directly after his petulant speech and didn't return to the tables where he was host to chat or take pictures with the firefighters etc.

Harry seems not to understand the nature of this type of fundraiser and appears to expect that the charity pays for him to honour them with his presence. I really don't understand why he turned up for a second year if he doesn't want to donate at the fundraiser.

In many ways the charity gets better value from the fake prince Mario-Max than they get from sulky Harry as Mario-Max seems to mingle and get photos with attendees.

bluegreygreen · 01/05/2025 12:47

Ongoing problems at Sentebale, apparently.

I'm assuming they would need a certain number of trustees to be quorate for decisions?

https://archive.is/fdI2M

Puzzledandpissedoff · 01/05/2025 13:02

She is destroying day by day any little credibility that she had left and all that is left is this grifter image

Was there ever anything else though, @foreverblowingbubbless?

Even before the wedding there were never any replies to "what's she done to earn this "humanitarian" label?", and since then it's become ever clearer that she has no real interest in the needy unless they're propping up their own image - and in some awful cases can't even be bothered pretending to care

Profhilodisaster · 01/05/2025 13:03

bluegreygreen · 01/05/2025 12:47

Ongoing problems at Sentebale, apparently.

I'm assuming they would need a certain number of trustees to be quorate for decisions?

https://archive.is/fdI2M

Something is very obviously wrong, maybe it is Dr Sophie or could it be that it hasn't been operating correctly?

BemusedAmerican · 01/05/2025 13:07

There is an investigation going on, the SS has gone after at least one trustee on social media, and from what I've read, it hasn't been properly run for years. Also I'm sure the end of USAID is not helping the finances.

Bellsize · 01/05/2025 13:07

Uricon2 · 30/04/2025 19:06

"She likened their relationship to a video game where you “slay the dragon, save the princess.” "

Is there an iteration of this story where the dragon and the prince shack up together and live miserably ever after?

"She likened their relationship to a video game where you “slay the dragon, save the princess.”

I've said this before on this forum MM had set up the cliched 'Damsel in distress' scenario so that dumb-ass PH would be triggered to ride in playing the 'Knight in shining armour' to 'save' her and 'protect' her and feel like the chivalrous hero in a courtly love scenario.

Now shes even admitting it herself - down in the trenches, a victim hiding from the racist press, racist SIL, dreadful institution and staff etc

So sexist and manipulative.

"One of the most subtle yet devastating manipulative strategies a woman can use is the “damsel in distress” routine. It’s a calculated move that preys on a man’s natural instinct to protect, provide, and “prove” his masculinity. This tactic works especially well on simps — men who are desperate for validation and approval from women. The result? Men pouring their time, energy, and resources into a bottomless pit of manipulation."

https://archive.ph/Hew6n

foreverblowingbubbless · 01/05/2025 13:23

Puzzledandpissedoff · 01/05/2025 13:02

She is destroying day by day any little credibility that she had left and all that is left is this grifter image

Was there ever anything else though, @foreverblowingbubbless?

Even before the wedding there were never any replies to "what's she done to earn this "humanitarian" label?", and since then it's become ever clearer that she has no real interest in the needy unless they're propping up their own image - and in some awful cases can't even be bothered pretending to care

Very true!

Spectre8 · 01/05/2025 13:29

foreverblowingbubbless · 01/05/2025 11:24

@Rummly I agree with you there.

I think it is the non stop outpouring of social media garbage that is fascinating. Just when you think she has looked a bit ridiculous - Hunter wellies and a massive basket of roses ( why would you desecrate them ?) she does something even more ludicrous . You are thinking " does she realise how ridiculous she looks?" . She is destroying day by day any little credibility that she had left and all that is left is this grifter image - a person who would sell anything about herself and her family for attention. She is a media you know what.

I'm not even sure it is about the money . It's the "image" that she perceives comes with this. She was told by her mother she was " special" . Maybe Doria was being kind but then Doria was missing for a large part of Meghan's childhood so where does that leave Meghan ? Vying for attention, for love and how to get this . She admitted in the recent podcast she was always trying to PROVE herself.

We have all seen it is about the love her friends have for HER , the love her children have for HER. At times I think she is seriously unwell and this is all going to come to a grinding explosive halt.

Whats wrong with hunter wellies?

How has she desecrated the roses?

foreverblowingbubbless · 01/05/2025 13:37

@Spectre8 why would you cut down all those beautiful roses in bloom in a garden only to put them inside and die? Let them live and thrive in nature like the bees! What will the bees do?

foreverblowingbubbless · 01/05/2025 13:39

@Spectre8 Hunter are just so yesterday 😂

foreverblowingbubbless · 01/05/2025 13:40

It's so interesting that you choose those minor points to comment on @Spectre8 as opposed to any of the other points.

Profhilodisaster · 01/05/2025 13:45

foreverblowingbubbless · 01/05/2025 13:39

@Spectre8 Hunter are just so yesterday 😂

I prefer Le Chameau 😉

CoffeeCantata · 01/05/2025 13:56

Oh dear - I'm worried that I'm now conforming to the accusations of Sussex supporters on here, but...

I'm actually starting to feel physical nausea when I see or hear Meghan these days. Reading some posts here, reporting her most recent word-sald-verbal diarrhoea-self-aggrandising fantasy ramblings, I'm becoming almost allergic to sight or sound of her.

So she thinks of herself as a princess who needed rescuing. OK.

She is beyond help - she's just awful, awful, awful. Please someone - make her go away.

Not frothing but retching....

BruFord · 01/05/2025 14:04

Meghan, wearing a $4,000 Ralph Lauren suit,

I don’t know anything about these events but I did see a photo of this outfit…why doesn’t she get her trousers taken up so they actually fit?! I know the long, loose style is in, but it’s bizarre to spend $4K on an outfit and then not have it tailored to fit you!

Lunde · 01/05/2025 14:08

BruFord · 01/05/2025 14:04

Meghan, wearing a $4,000 Ralph Lauren suit,

I don’t know anything about these events but I did see a photo of this outfit…why doesn’t she get her trousers taken up so they actually fit?! I know the long, loose style is in, but it’s bizarre to spend $4K on an outfit and then not have it tailored to fit you!

I don't think she actually buys them - I think she gets them loaned to her. It saves money but means she can't alter them

BruFord · 01/05/2025 14:11

Lunde · 01/05/2025 14:08

I don't think she actually buys them - I think she gets them loaned to her. It saves money but means she can't alter them

@Lunde I wondered whether that was the case…but then she needs to borrow some outfits that fit better, those trousers looked awful!

Snorlaxo · 01/05/2025 14:13

I’d not heard about the aviation award thing but yikes at the quotes.

He is increasingly looking like Mr Markle because Meghan is moving forward with her money making ideas. Leaving aside the financial success angle, the family needs new income streams and she seems to be the only one trying to solve that. Nobody was going to throw money at them for free so they have to work- even if it ends up as sponsored posts on Insta or a guest spot on QVC.

Harry needs to do something to keep up energy wise or he will start being known as Mr Markle.

Viviennemary · 01/05/2025 14:15

It will all end in tears. Eventually. But Meghan appears to be enjoying the ride. Harry not so much.

bluegreygreen · 01/05/2025 14:15

foreverblowingbubbless · 01/05/2025 13:37

@Spectre8 why would you cut down all those beautiful roses in bloom in a garden only to put them inside and die? Let them live and thrive in nature like the bees! What will the bees do?

While I dislike the Duchess of Sussex's behaviour for many reasons, I do think this is going a bit far - plenty of people cut flowers to decorate their homes.

BigWillyLittleTodger · 01/05/2025 14:45

This year he makes it very awkward by having a pop at the organisers for asking him to host a couple of tables for community aviators that fought the LA fires - which seems very ungracious and tone deaf at this sort of event. He also walked off and left the event directly after his petulant speech and didn't return to the tables where he was host to chat or take pictures with the firefighters etc

That’s shocking, he walked off and didn’t bother to return to the table not even to say goodbye? Just when I think I couldn’t dislike him more he does this, contemptuous behaviour.

Mylovelygreendress · 01/05/2025 14:55

Snorlaxo · 01/05/2025 14:13

I’d not heard about the aviation award thing but yikes at the quotes.

He is increasingly looking like Mr Markle because Meghan is moving forward with her money making ideas. Leaving aside the financial success angle, the family needs new income streams and she seems to be the only one trying to solve that. Nobody was going to throw money at them for free so they have to work- even if it ends up as sponsored posts on Insta or a guest spot on QVC.

Harry needs to do something to keep up energy wise or he will start being known as Mr Markle.

She has ideas but are any of them generating the level of income required to sustain a very extravagant lifestyle?
As ever seems to be a bit of a damp squib and i can’t imagine the clothes links generate a huge amount.

Treeleaf11 · 01/05/2025 14:57

Harry seems not to understand the nature of this type of fundraiser and appears to expect that the charity pays for him to honour them with his presence. I really don't understand why he turned up for a second year if he doesn't want to donate at the fundraiser.

That's quite funny. When he was in the RF he would attend these events for free and be guest of honour, now doing the same sort of thing he has to pay out of his own pocket. Wow that must sting.

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