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The royal family

Loveliest titles (and the worst)

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MrsLeonFarrell · 29/04/2025 21:10

Apparently William and Catherine are called Lord and Lady of the Isles in Mull. What a beautiful title Lady of the Isles is, much nicer than Princess of Wales.

Anyway I thought I'd start a thread musing on titles in general, they don't have to be royal.

My favourite title Lady of the Isles (as of today)

Least favourite Princess of Bourbon Two Sicilies (what a mouthful)

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FunnysInLaJardin · 30/04/2025 10:27

CheeseWisely · 29/04/2025 21:46

Not especially funny but here in the Channel Islands Charles is His Majesty The King, Our Duke. The Queen was also Our Duke (rather than Duchess) as it relates to succession of the Duke Of Normandy.

which created havoc for the first property court sitting after the queen died!

Marmite27 · 30/04/2025 12:45

I wouldn’t mind being a Dowager Duchess if I could have a sexy secretary Grin(Six! The musical reference)

JADS · 30/04/2025 13:14

CathyorClaire · 30/04/2025 10:06

For anyone interested in ...ahem.. elevating their status:

https://prestigetitles.co.uk/

DS was bought a lordship by his friends a while back. Hours of fun when it comes to ordering stuff 😁

Hang on a minute. I can buy a Duchess title for £200?

Hardly elevated is it?

JADS · 30/04/2025 13:17

Cynic17 · 30/04/2025 09:14

Not only was Queen Victoria the Mother of Europe, but Christian IX was known as the Father-in-law of Europe. Which is how Prince Philip was not only a Prince of Greece and Denmark, but his father was a cousin of both Tsar Nicholas II of Russia and King George V of England.

He was way more royal than The Queen. On his maternal side, he was descended from Queen Victoria, and both his mother and grandmother were born at Windsor Castle, in Queen Vic's actual presence.
Which is why he was pissed off when courtiers used to patronise him as a "nobody" in the early days of his marriage!

I knew about the Denmark junior branch going off to Greece, but I never realised about the Russian connection. Thank you.

Ultimately for Phil, he may have had all the Royal blood but if that country doesn't recognise their monarchy, you're King of nowhere. Soz Phil!

MaisieMacabe · 30/04/2025 16:45

Cynic17 · 30/04/2025 09:14

Not only was Queen Victoria the Mother of Europe, but Christian IX was known as the Father-in-law of Europe. Which is how Prince Philip was not only a Prince of Greece and Denmark, but his father was a cousin of both Tsar Nicholas II of Russia and King George V of England.

He was way more royal than The Queen. On his maternal side, he was descended from Queen Victoria, and both his mother and grandmother were born at Windsor Castle, in Queen Vic's actual presence.
Which is why he was pissed off when courtiers used to patronise him as a "nobody" in the early days of his marriage!

He was so royal! I remember watching a documentary about Windsor Castle, and hearing how one of the courtiers showed Philip round when he was first engaged and behaved in a patronising way, until Philip told him "my mother was born here"!

IcedPurple · 30/04/2025 16:55

Apparently William and Catherine are called Lord and Lady of the Isles in Mull. What a beautiful title Lady of the Isles is, much nicer than Princess of Wales.

I think Princess of Wales is a beautiful title, and Lady of the Isles too.

I also love the Spanish and Dutch titles for the heirs, respectively Prince or Princess of Asturias and Prince or Princess of Orange.

The title Duke of York exudes history and Englishness. Shame about the current holder!

Serenster · 30/04/2025 17:21

I like some of the still-hanging-in- there Holy Roman Empire titles like “Margrave” - the current Margrave of Baden is one of Charles’ first cousins and attended his coronation.

Orginally Margraves were the experienced military generals who were in charge of often contentious border lands. The word comes from the same root as as the ancient words for borders, which came into English as Marches - the Welsh Marches were the borders between England and Wales, for example. When the Normans invaded they designated various Earls as “Marcher Lords” and gave the landholdings along the border with primary responsibility for keeping the Welsh in check - so the Earls of Chester and Pembrokeshire for example.

(The same title of Margrave became Marquis in French, and that was carried over to England also eventually as the title Marquess).

Serenster · 30/04/2025 17:26

I also like Grand Duke / Duchess, the Russians used them but I think there is only Luxemburg that still uses it.

And Archduke/Archduchess as well - none of those titles survived WWI! And you are right, Luxembourg is the only surviving Grand Duchy.

IcedPurple · 30/04/2025 17:40

It obviously reeks of colonialism, but Empress of India is a pretty impressive title.

MrsLeonFarrell · 30/04/2025 17:58

Serenster · 30/04/2025 17:21

I like some of the still-hanging-in- there Holy Roman Empire titles like “Margrave” - the current Margrave of Baden is one of Charles’ first cousins and attended his coronation.

Orginally Margraves were the experienced military generals who were in charge of often contentious border lands. The word comes from the same root as as the ancient words for borders, which came into English as Marches - the Welsh Marches were the borders between England and Wales, for example. When the Normans invaded they designated various Earls as “Marcher Lords” and gave the landholdings along the border with primary responsibility for keeping the Welsh in check - so the Earls of Chester and Pembrokeshire for example.

(The same title of Margrave became Marquis in French, and that was carried over to England also eventually as the title Marquess).

Isn't there an Agatha Christie mystery about a Margrave inheritance?

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MrsLeonFarrell · 30/04/2025 17:59

Infanta isn't a very catchy title in English i wonder what is like in Spanish.

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KatherineParr · 30/04/2025 18:03

I do like the 'Grande de España' title, which I always think of as 'Great of Spain'.

CathyorClaire · 30/04/2025 20:58

JADS · 30/04/2025 13:14

Hang on a minute. I can buy a Duchess title for £200?

Hardly elevated is it?

Might be a handy back pocket item for some ☕

IcedPurple · 30/04/2025 21:18

MrsLeonFarrell · 30/04/2025 17:59

Infanta isn't a very catchy title in English i wonder what is like in Spanish.

I don't like 'infanta' either.

Not a patch on 'dauphin'.

MrsLeonFarrell · 30/04/2025 22:16

IcedPurple · 30/04/2025 21:18

I don't like 'infanta' either.

Not a patch on 'dauphin'.

Dauphin is pretty good, as long as you say it with a French accent

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CarolinaInTheMorning · 30/04/2025 22:48

I quite like Infanta. It sounds very elegant to me.

I also like Princess Royal, a title created by Charles I for his daughter Mary, at the suggestion of his French wife, Henrietta Maria, and modeled on the French title Madame Royale.

CoffeeCantata · 01/05/2025 06:43

Not a title but a family name...

I remember stifling laughter when I visited Sizergh Castle in the Lake District where the owning family were the Hornyold-Stricklands.

They must have heard all the jokes!

MaisieMacabe · 01/05/2025 06:57

That's a great name.
I remember reading about a woman in the House of Lords called Lady Garden. (Baroness Garden of Frognal).

foreverblowingbubbless · 01/05/2025 12:28

I like it plain and simple- Mary Queen of Scots would do me. 😊

SheWaits · 01/05/2025 12:42

JADS · 30/04/2025 13:17

I knew about the Denmark junior branch going off to Greece, but I never realised about the Russian connection. Thank you.

Ultimately for Phil, he may have had all the Royal blood but if that country doesn't recognise their monarchy, you're King of nowhere. Soz Phil!

Have a look at photos of George V and Tsar Nicholas II. Twinnies!

SheWaits · 01/05/2025 12:45

There's a Danish order of Chivalry called the Order of the Elephant. I'm not sure where elephants come into it, you don't see many roaming the plains of Billund (are there plains in Billund?)

I've also always like the (now defunct) Dauphin title and the fact that Spanish royals are called Infanta or Infante!

CoffeeCantata · 01/05/2025 13:59

I apologise if I'm repeating what's already been posted, but I love the Scottish clan chiefs' titles such as 'The McDonald of that Ilk' etc, or 'The Magilicuddy of the Reeks'.

When the chief wears his own tartan too - now that's glam!

CarolinaInTheMorning · 01/05/2025 14:13

CoffeeCantata · 01/05/2025 13:59

I apologise if I'm repeating what's already been posted, but I love the Scottish clan chiefs' titles such as 'The McDonald of that Ilk' etc, or 'The Magilicuddy of the Reeks'.

When the chief wears his own tartan too - now that's glam!

And my personal favorite, the late Sir Gregor MacGregor of MacGregor.

MollyRover · 01/05/2025 14:38

myrtleWilson · 30/04/2025 05:36

@theunbreakablecleopatrajones Dominic West not Damien Lewis

Ya wtf did poor Damien Lewis do 🤣🤣?

MrsLeonFarrell · 01/05/2025 15:33

CarolinaInTheMorning · 01/05/2025 14:13

And my personal favorite, the late Sir Gregor MacGregor of MacGregor.

That is awesome!

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