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Baital · 12/04/2025 01:19

I think they were - not because of anything personal - but because the CoS were the four adults next in the line of succession. They (Kent and Gloucester) dropped down the order as others e.g. Anne and Edward became adults and fell out of the four slots.

RitaIncognita · 12/04/2025 03:17

OctopusFriend · 11/04/2025 19:29

... while at the same time, his sister Margaret was Regent for her husband, the king of Scotland. So for a little while there, England and Scotland were ruled by women.
Quite effectively, by all accounts.

And when Henry VIII became king at age 17, his grandmother Lady Margaret Beaufort was regent for a short time until he came of age.

KewTitles · 12/04/2025 04:42

Baital · 12/04/2025 01:19

I think they were - not because of anything personal - but because the CoS were the four adults next in the line of succession. They (Kent and Gloucester) dropped down the order as others e.g. Anne and Edward became adults and fell out of the four slots.

Which isn’t the same as being “pushed out”.

upinaballoon · 12/04/2025 08:52

Whooowhooohoo · 11/04/2025 19:20

Apparently Charles not got a long time before King goes to Wm

Apparently Charles has not got a long time before the kingship goes to William?

Is this a rumour being put about by one small section of posters on social media?
Obviously, on average, a person of 76 is not going to live as far into the future as a 25-year-old.

upinaballoon · 12/04/2025 10:01

Kreisler · 11/04/2025 16:35

Jeremy Vine did a fantastic phone in about Charles yesterday. Varying degrees of delusionary personal insights and one apple cheeked old dear in Dorchester all but accused him (charles, not Vine) of murdering Princess Diana. Worth catching up on Sounds - it was radio gold.

How do you know she was an apple-cheeked old dear? Could you see her on the radio? If I go to BBC Sounds what do I have to search for? Did they whizz her off quickly, the way they do on Any Answers with anyone the producer doesn't agree with?

MrsFinkelstein · 12/04/2025 10:21

JFC.

It's so obvious the majority of American journalists and citizens paid zero attention to the BRF (or any Monarchy) until 2018.

SerendipityJane · 12/04/2025 10:29

MrsFinkelstein · 12/04/2025 10:21

JFC.

It's so obvious the majority of American journalists and citizens paid zero attention to the BRF (or any Monarchy) until 2018.

The would have done a lot better to have paid more attention to their own constitutional arrangements.

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 12/04/2025 12:13

RitaIncognita · 12/04/2025 03:17

And when Henry VIII became king at age 17, his grandmother Lady Margaret Beaufort was regent for a short time until he came of age.

I didn't know that - I had assumed he was considered an adult at 17 - I thought the legal age of majority was younger then.

mainecooncatonahottinroof · 12/04/2025 15:46

AnticleaAndLaertes · 11/04/2025 17:15

They can step down, but I think she didnt want to as she wasnt sure what kind of job Charles would do

Nonsense, it was because she had pledged to be Queen for the rest of her life, and so that's what she did! There's an oft repeated speech aired that she made aged 21 when she made the promise.

Allseeingallknowing · 12/04/2025 15:58

What will happen is what happened with Queen Elizabeth. She stepped back and did less while other family members stepped up and did more.

mainecooncatonahottinroof · 12/04/2025 16:04

vandelier · 11/04/2025 18:04

I love how confidently knowledgeable so many people are about these things.

I'm sure I'm not alone but I couldn't give a flying fk about any of them. I accept them as Royals, nothing I can do about that, but I am amused by those who know so much more about succession, regency, council of state (or whatever it's called), abdication, the QE reign, what Camilla is called and so on. All said as if the peasants haven't a clue.

We do.

I love how confidently knowledgeable so many people are too. I've always been interested in history (studied it up to 1st year uni) and of course the monarchy is part of that. I love all the traditions even the robes and garments that look pretty silly to the eye in 2025.

I'm sadly not as knowledgeable but I really enjoy reading posts from those who are. There are some very intelligent, thoughtful posters in interesting professions with brilliant insights. I think this may well be the most 'intelligent' board on here, for me - derails being the exception, but they are always handled with aplomb.

@vandelier well you either have a clue or you don't. Which is it?

How rude of you though. If you were chatting about, for talk's sake, football (which I have zero interest in), I don't think I would wade into the middle of your discussion to announce that I didn't give a fuck?

Keep reading! It's a great place to expand your general knowledge. Maybe you will go on 'The Chase' (other quizzes are available!) and win big money because you have learned about succession, abdication and the rest!

TBH though some of the things you have mentioned are very much a matter of general knowledge and are in fact fairly basic. Open your mind! It's great!

mainecooncatonahottinroof · 12/04/2025 16:06

saveforthat · 11/04/2025 18:23

Last time I looked Charles was king of GB.

Great Britain and Northern Ireland, actually. Commonly referred to as the 'UK'.

mainecooncatonahottinroof · 12/04/2025 16:08

Whooowhooohoo · 11/04/2025 19:20

Apparently Charles not got a long time before King goes to Wm

Are you a seer?

LlynTegid · 12/04/2025 16:09

Allseeingallknowing · 12/04/2025 15:58

What will happen is what happened with Queen Elizabeth. She stepped back and did less while other family members stepped up and did more.

I agree, such as the then Prince of Wales doing the State Opening of Parliament.

mainecooncatonahottinroof · 12/04/2025 16:12

JustSawJohnny · 11/04/2025 19:32

Clearly he means he won't abdicate and hence 'hand' the crown to William.

Shame, as he's not a popular King. I think William would be more popular with the public.

On what evidence are you basing that (shit) assertion?

He's probably not as popular as his mother was, but she's only dead a couple of years and he has massive shoes to fill. So far as I can see he's settled himself nicely into the role. He's more jolly and informal than TLQ, and seems very affable when meeting people.

mainecooncatonahottinroof · 12/04/2025 16:14

HonoriaBulstrode · 11/04/2025 20:04

he's not a popular King.

Who says?

while at the same time, his sister Margaret was Regent for her husband, the king of Scotland. So for a little while there, England and Scotland were ruled by women.
Quite effectively, by all accounts.

Then later Mary of Guise was Regent of Scotland for her daughter, Mary QoS. Catherine de Medici was Regent of France for her sons. Mary and then Elizabeth were queens of England in their own right. John Knox's Monstrous Regiment of Women.

And Anne, and Victoria!

Plus Mary and William jointly.

mainecooncatonahottinroof · 12/04/2025 16:16

Whooowhooohoo · 11/04/2025 20:29

24 months max

Oh do wise up!!! WTF would possibly know?

HonoriaBulstrode · 12/04/2025 16:24

What will happen is what happened with Queen Elizabeth. She stepped back and did less while other family members stepped up and did more.

But she continued to carry out her constitutional duties right up to the end, as she said she would, and as she no doubt wished.

I declare before you all that my whole life whether it be long or short shall be devoted to your service and the service of our great imperial family to which we all belong.

He's more jolly and informal than TLQ, and seems very affable when meeting people.

He seems to be well received wherever he goes - just this past week on his Italy trip, for example. He actually seems a lot more relaxed as King than he ever was as PofW.

Realistically, he's not going to have a very long reign, but I hope he's around for a good while yet.

mainecooncatonahottinroof · 12/04/2025 16:25

WaterFeatures · 11/04/2025 20:46

I know less than nothing about his state of health, but I have a friend who works at St Paul’s, which is the back-up funeral venue in case something means Westminster Abbey can’t be used, and not only do they have a FT staff member dedicated to Operation Menai Bridge, but meetings have ramped up in frequency to several per week. I mean, presumably they have to be very belt and braces about it all, and don’t think KC3 will make 96.

That means nothing. They probably stepped it up when he took the 'top job'.

They'd been rehearsing the LQ's since forever too.

mainecooncatonahottinroof · 12/04/2025 16:31

LlynTegid · 12/04/2025 16:09

I agree, such as the then Prince of Wales doing the State Opening of Parliament.

And TLQ hadn't done any foreign tours since 2015.

OctopusFriend · 12/04/2025 16:34

mainecooncatonahottinroof · 12/04/2025 16:25

That means nothing. They probably stepped it up when he took the 'top job'.

They'd been rehearsing the LQ's since forever too.

Also, I think some of us challenged the "several times a week" claim. It's all planned and in place, it just needs the occasional rehearsal.

mainecooncatonahottinroof · 12/04/2025 16:34

HonoriaBulstrode · 12/04/2025 16:24

What will happen is what happened with Queen Elizabeth. She stepped back and did less while other family members stepped up and did more.

But she continued to carry out her constitutional duties right up to the end, as she said she would, and as she no doubt wished.

I declare before you all that my whole life whether it be long or short shall be devoted to your service and the service of our great imperial family to which we all belong.

He's more jolly and informal than TLQ, and seems very affable when meeting people.

He seems to be well received wherever he goes - just this past week on his Italy trip, for example. He actually seems a lot more relaxed as King than he ever was as PofW.

Realistically, he's not going to have a very long reign, but I hope he's around for a good while yet.

Yes, that's the quote I was thinking of but too lazy to check up!

I agree - he definitely seems be enjoying his engagements. I hope he is.

I was probably a bit sceptical as to what sort of king he would be and I've been impressed by him, and Camilla too. The two of them seem so comfortable and contented together. Unfortunately Diana was the 'mistake' not Camilla.

mainecooncatonahottinroof · 12/04/2025 16:36

OctopusFriend · 12/04/2025 16:34

Also, I think some of us challenged the "several times a week" claim. It's all planned and in place, it just needs the occasional rehearsal.

Yes, I hadn't really picked that up - you're all right of course. I wouldn't be surprised if there was some 'ramping' up though but probably not that frequency. Though when you saw all the intimate detail of the Queen's funeral, you'd wonder!! And it all went off perfectly, not one single hitch.

OctopusFriend · 12/04/2025 16:39

Military precision! They often do it in the small hours to prevent disruption to London. In the actual run up, it probably is every day.

HonoriaBulstrode · 12/04/2025 16:49

Though when you saw all the intimate detail of the Queen's funeral, you'd wonder!! And it all went off perfectly, not one single hitch.

Though I read about it, and it seems there were headaches behind the scenes. So many elements to the procession, for example, some on horseback, some on foot, some pulling the gun carriage, it was difficult to keep them all going at the same pace and not have gaps opening up and timings slipping. But yes it did all seem perfect from the outside.