Sentebale #5

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As I finished the last one.

Harry wanted to spout his shit then didn't want to face the consequences. I read he was moaning about how badly he is treated by his family during the King's coronation. Is he really this stupid ? Yes I think he probably is.

Whiny manbaby sums him up to a tee!

Oh ffs. He spouted all that stuff about the family and yet they still invited him and were polite. More than I would have been.

I think this was the Platinum Jubilee thanksgiving service when he was caught by a lip reader moaning to Jack Brooksbank.

This was when they showed up late and made their own entrance (which is what they wanted) but had been given really bad seats! Also had security people sitting behind them.

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Sorry I've just googled it and you were right, it was the coronation. Though he probably moans at all the events!

Oh god yes - he's such a tit! Can't stay away 😂

Can't stand either of them, but at least they did put in a few days work. Its utterly outrageous that Truss gets the same. It's for life as well as far as I remember? Sickening.

Harry is much more exposed as a trustee of African Parks. If the CC won’t touch that there’s little hope of him getting his comeuppance for his actions relating to Sentebale.

One possibility is that if the new trustees have been validly appointed and are minded to take the charity in another direction, that could mean the end of Harry as Patron.

The coronation was after the NF documentary and Spare. I can’t believe at that point he was still complaining about how poorly he was treated. Poor Jack having to sit and listen to that.

Unbelievable. Imagine having the nerve to show up after all the terrible things he said.
Just incredible, I couldn't believe it when I saw him swaggering up the aisle and grinning at everyone.
Well done La Plume de ma Tante!

Yes! The way he walked up the aisle was really odd. He looked very pleased with himself but most people were dragging daggers. He did try to walk with Eugenie and Jack but they weren’t having it.

In your opinion, what is the underlying problem, @My2cents1975 ? There are quite a few candidates but the overarching issue seems to me to be an ineffective board because of undue influence by patron(s). 😉

Based on what SC has said publicly so far, I think her case is that Sentebale hasn't been able to fulfil its charitable purpose and has lost funding because the former trustees were in hock to Harry as one of the founders and patrons. In addition, there is her whistleblowing over bullying, misogyny and misogynoir.

She has indicated she has the evidence: results of her internal review - trustees not having the conversation about the loss of funders due to the toxicity of Harry's personal brand; accounts from funders she had been speaking to that Harry had briefed them against her, which could reduce or has reduced donations; action by Harry which interferes with the operations of the charity eg one month's notice of bringing a Netflix camera crew to the Miami polo match in 2024 and the loss of the original venue plus the risk posed to the charity's reputation by the actions of H&M through the on-stage jostling at the trophy presentation; the 'imperious' text from Harry when she refused to issue a press statement in support of Meghan to counter negative press coverage; trustees who were friends or contacts of Harry in post beyond the recommended either years; his presence at and contributio to board meeting as patron eg 'fixing' the appointment of trustee 'Brian'. All of this mitigates against him being a step removed and undermines any claim his lawyers may assert to that effect.

I am appalled in general by the UK press's collusion with the Royal family, including the failure to properly investigate African Parks. The courtiers have the press in a stranglehold; dig deep (wealth, African Parks) and no more access to our principals, sharing of the feelgood stories that are clickbait for those who slavishly support the Royals. With a presence in so many African countries, I'm not clear on where responsibility lies for investigating the allegations. Presumably, the police.

I know! She'll get that generous pension for life!.

Add to that litany the attempt to tradwmark Sentabale in their own names for commercial purposes.

I should have included that, having posted about it earlier. What we know about Sentebale so far does illustrate why the CC's remit extends to patrons and others with significant influence, regardless of their formal role.

I think that it did play a role. IIRC he was offered a desk job in Whitehall and not a helicopter, active roles ... so he flounced

Yep, Grand Duchess Xenia. She moved to Wilderness House at Hampton Court towards the end of her life, where she also only occupied a few rooms and lived very simply. She had to move from Frog Cott because she was told on the death of George V it was only for the use of immediate members of the BRF.

Bit of a come down from the Winter Palace, Tsarskoe Selo (etc) but she seemed to cope with a minimum of moaning.

@Uricon2 thank you so much. I’m going to have a bit of a read about her. Poor lady to have been treated the way she was.

Yes, difficult to be the "poor relation" when born to splendour that made the Windsors look like church mice and left pretty much dependent on charity but I think she coped quite well though. It's about personality at the end of the day and I suppose feeling lucky to be alive, which she and others were.

He could have stayed as Captain Wales though. He didnt need to be promoted. Also in Spare he describes flying a helicopter over his father or something. All Boys Own , ‘ I could have shot him’. He sounds like a total liability.

You have missed the point of Captain Wails' story. He could have shot his father, but he is merciful, especially given that his father never hugged him as a child, so he didn't. Just as I could trip my neighbours up when I meet them in the street, especially as one of their children was rude to me years ago, but I don't - because I am merciful 😃

Just as a general observation from my time as a flying instructor in the Forces and that’s there is not automatically or necessarily any overlap between the personal attributes needed to be a pilot of an attack helicopter/fast jet, a high achieving scholar or a successful business person, but being genuinely “thick” would rule you out of all of those occupations.

For info sadly many graduates fail flying training (classroom skills only get you so far), some business people fail training, even worse a few pass and then kill themselves because they let ego get in the way of sensible decision making…

According to all credible sources I’ve seen and heard from Harry passed wings and managed to hold down two roles on the Apache (BTW a co-pilot in any aircraft is a genuine qualified pilot, not some form of lower ranking assistant) so I’m not convinced he is quite as “think” or “stupid” as some try to paint him, or at least wasn’t when he was serving.

OTOH I get the impression it is possible he lacks motivation and is generally aimless unless kicked by NCOs, Senior Officers or men in grey suits.

As for the circumstances of his leaving HM Forces… he’d followed a fairly normal career path by doing his specialist junior officer operational tours in his twenties. The usual career pattern for those that want to stay on in HM Forces as they age is to move into more of a management role, and yes, that might mean exams….if you don’t fancy that then often the only other option is to leave.

As a result of the above over the decades many many junior officers have opted to leave the forces in their early thirties and transition to some role in civilian life.

The vast majority of those that do leave HM Forces don’t belly ache about it, they usually make the transition to civilian life successfully despite not having a second career lined up for them by Pa and/or without having their hands held by men in grey suits…OTOH despite having such assistance Harry doesn’t seem to have managed it. Why?

To be honest I look at Harry and I don’t see someone who is obviously thick or dim, but I do sense I’m seeing someone who is (?still) aimless, lacks motivation and possibly has a massive sense of entitlement on top.

That story in Spare about the opportunity of shooting at Charles is really, really odd. If he intended it to just be a joke it fell short, given the tone of his other complaints. There are a fair number of people in our military who escape there from (really, horribly) abusive families at a young age, as their only perceived way out.

Charles must have been so hurt (I don't believe that any of them haven't read the whole pity tome in depth and even if not, it's out there)

ETA missed a bit out.

They’re married, it’s her money too

Someone on another thread (or maybe it was you?) pointed this out and apparently they were told that at the time. It’s such a good point