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Sentebale #5

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glitterturd · 03/04/2025 23:41

As I finished the last one.

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IdaGlossop · 05/04/2025 15:34

My2cents1975 · 05/04/2025 15:23

I agree that H should be held accountable for his behavior, but I don't know that he will. The Charity Commission will be looking into trustees, but H is not a trustee, he is a Patron so he will of course have Trustees to blame if the commission finds the former trustees guilty.

IMHO, we a considerable way from the tipping point where that photo won't work, because although H may have been, to quote Mike Tindall, "a bellend", the men-in-grey controlled H's behavior and managed H's public image very very well. The palace created the construct of a "cheeky happy chappy who loves Queen and country. Some laddish behavior included but what fun!"

After H married M, they exited fairly rapidly, so they never cemented a public image of "fun, loving, dynamic duo". Instead, due to the tv shows, interviews and books their established brand is "whining, toxic, negative duo" hence the desperate "joy, joy joy" rebranding that we are witnessing unfold.

Unfortunately for M, rightly or wrongly, the public perceives her as the catalyst for things to go wrong for H, when IMHO, without palace support and PR, H is utterly clueless and useless. It is just M entering the scene and palace support ending happened back-to-back. H's collapse in popularity is tied to his marriage to M for much of the public imagination...so IMHO, accountability will remain a foreign concept to H for a while longer.

I read on this thread yesterday that the Charity Commission's investigative remit extends to people with significant influence over the charity, including patrons. I too thought Harry was safe as a non-trustee but is appears he is not.

ThePoshUns · 05/04/2025 15:42

RanyaJerodung · 05/04/2025 14:40

I do recommend the Tom Bower book, Revenge.
It's very informative. He stands by his sources and has asked them to sue if it is untrue.

I’ve been listening to Revenge on audiobook, it’s very revealing and still pertinent in light of recent events

IdaGlossop · 05/04/2025 15:48

Uricon2 · 05/04/2025 14:56

@My2cents1975 I agree that because William was so tall he looked much older than he was during that funeral procession and how very young he was is less evident. The pair of them were heartbreaking (I could never comprehend they'd been allowed let alone encouraged to walk) but whatever therapy Harry's had to help him cope, he needs more/different/better.

@uricon2 @My2cents1975 the funeral procession is one of the most poignant examples of the private family and the public role being in conflict. They were boys grieving the death of their mother but they were also princes. It sounds harsh but had they not walked behind the coffin, they may have regretted it as adults so I can understand why they were encouraged to do so.

Profhilodisaster · 05/04/2025 15:58

@IdaGlossop I have listened to a few of Paula M's YouTube videos, she's not a 'proper' journalist but does seem to do quite a lot of investigating.

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Conundrumseverywhere · 05/04/2025 16:16

Lunde · 05/04/2025 15:26

PH provided most of capital for their move to the US - he had few expenses as a RF member, His inheritance from Diana was estimated at £10-15 million in 2020, plus he inherited £8 million from the Queen Mother when he turned 40, he received his allowance from Charles (£2 million a year) for 6 months after Megxit (after the Oprah interview) and Charles gave him a one off sum of £4-5 million to started their new life.

Just eye watering amounts for most people and still they bleat.

IdaGlossop · 05/04/2025 16:36

Conundrumseverywhere · 05/04/2025 16:16

Just eye watering amounts for most people and still they bleat.

This is an example of the Achille's heel of the Royal family. They have unimaginable wealth, most of it stolen from the British, and yet they want even more, and some of them appear to have no awareness of their descent into grubby practices to obtain it. The second Royal story running at the moment, Andrew's links to an alleged Chinese spy, also implicates KCIII, who saw dealings through him to the enrichment of Andrew as something to be encouraged.

IdaGlossop · 05/04/2025 16:42

IdaGlossop · 05/04/2025 16:36

This is an example of the Achille's heel of the Royal family. They have unimaginable wealth, most of it stolen from the British, and yet they want even more, and some of them appear to have no awareness of their descent into grubby practices to obtain it. The second Royal story running at the moment, Andrew's links to an alleged Chinese spy, also implicates KCIII, who saw dealings through him to the enrichment of Andrew as something to be encouraged.

Opps Achilles'

MonteShitshow · 05/04/2025 16:45

Ooh I was too optimistic in thinking that a modelling career could be a decent way to make a living for PH. I figured he might have a couple of years to do so while his reputation hasn’t been completely smoked out (In case the CC issues a damning report).

Could he try to be an artist? AirBnB host?

RanyaJerodung · 05/04/2025 16:46

MonteShitshow · 05/04/2025 16:45

Ooh I was too optimistic in thinking that a modelling career could be a decent way to make a living for PH. I figured he might have a couple of years to do so while his reputation hasn’t been completely smoked out (In case the CC issues a damning report).

Could he try to be an artist? AirBnB host?

He could be a bar tender now they don't have to add stuff up in their head.

Lunde · 05/04/2025 17:01

IdaGlossop · 05/04/2025 16:36

This is an example of the Achille's heel of the Royal family. They have unimaginable wealth, most of it stolen from the British, and yet they want even more, and some of them appear to have no awareness of their descent into grubby practices to obtain it. The second Royal story running at the moment, Andrew's links to an alleged Chinese spy, also implicates KCIII, who saw dealings through him to the enrichment of Andrew as something to be encouraged.

I wonder why the sole focus is on Prince Andrew? I thought that the Chinese spy also met David Cameron and Theresa May - but we read very little criticism of them.

Deflection?

Profhilodisaster · 05/04/2025 17:04

As much as I don't really like the sport, Harry could maybe open up his own polo club , there's one for sale, albeit in the uk for £4 million

IdaGlossop · 05/04/2025 17:04

Lunde · 05/04/2025 17:01

I wonder why the sole focus is on Prince Andrew? I thought that the Chinese spy also met David Cameron and Theresa May - but we read very little criticism of them.

Deflection?

News value, I think. Cameron and May are passé but Prince Andrew's fall from grace gives him ingoing relevancy, especially as we haven't had the answer to the question 'How is Andrew funding his lifestyle?'

RanyaJerodung · 05/04/2025 17:06

IdaGlossop · 05/04/2025 17:04

News value, I think. Cameron and May are passé but Prince Andrew's fall from grace gives him ingoing relevancy, especially as we haven't had the answer to the question 'How is Andrew funding his lifestyle?'

Well we're certainly funding May and Cameron's lifestyles. Have you seen what ex PMs get paid? (By the taxpayer).

RanyaJerodung · 05/04/2025 17:08

Profhilodisaster · 05/04/2025 17:04

As much as I don't really like the sport, Harry could maybe open up his own polo club , there's one for sale, albeit in the uk for £4 million

That's an idea
Although he'd need someone to run it for him.

Lunde · 05/04/2025 17:11

MonteShitshow · 05/04/2025 16:45

Ooh I was too optimistic in thinking that a modelling career could be a decent way to make a living for PH. I figured he might have a couple of years to do so while his reputation hasn’t been completely smoked out (In case the CC issues a damning report).

Could he try to be an artist? AirBnB host?

He should have probably stayed in the army but he flounced when he didn't like the posting he was offered. Therefore Invictus had to be hastily organised to occupy him.

He was probably most suited to the sort of life that other aristocrats/royals have - farm an estate, breed horses/polo ponies, open the house to the public, be a party/wedding venue ... perhaps have a eco tourism business.

Or he could have gone the brand ambassador route if not a working Royal like Zara and Mike or Eugenie and Jack - could have been pretty lucrative without a lot of work.

With a really good business manager he'd probably have been OK - but this was not the life Meghan wanted. She was always focussed on Hollywood glamour rather than living in the English countryside (unless very near a Soho House)

IdaGlossop · 05/04/2025 17:14

RanyaJerodung · 05/04/2025 17:06

Well we're certainly funding May and Cameron's lifestyles. Have you seen what ex PMs get paid? (By the taxpayer).

I have. Funding for a private office, security or ever and pension. I can just about cope with Cameron and May. It's Truss I struggle with, after her 44 days in office.

Lunde · 05/04/2025 17:15

Profhilodisaster · 05/04/2025 17:04

As much as I don't really like the sport, Harry could maybe open up his own polo club , there's one for sale, albeit in the uk for £4 million

I'm sure if Harry wanted to leave Meghan - Charles would buy it for him and put a business manager in place. However I'm doubt Charles will pay for H&M to trash them and merch the family name.

Lunde · 05/04/2025 17:20

IdaGlossop · 05/04/2025 17:04

News value, I think. Cameron and May are passé but Prince Andrew's fall from grace gives him ingoing relevancy, especially as we haven't had the answer to the question 'How is Andrew funding his lifestyle?'

Answer - his brother.
It was said last year that Charles was giving Andrew a £1 million a year allowance - obviously not the jet set lifestyle but a lot. However Charles was pissed off that Andrew wasn't spending any of it on repairing his Grade II listed mansion.

When this all blew up last year Lord Cameron was the Foreign Secretary - but still little criticism.

Ohpleeeease · 05/04/2025 17:27

Profhilodisaster · 05/04/2025 17:04

As much as I don't really like the sport, Harry could maybe open up his own polo club , there's one for sale, albeit in the uk for £4 million

I like this idea. Meghan could do the equivalent of Cricket Teas in the pavilion.

Weepixie · 05/04/2025 17:30

The last Tsars own sister ended up living in a few rooms at the despised Frog Cottage

I didn’t know this. Thank you.

Spectre8 · 05/04/2025 17:30

Lunde · 05/04/2025 17:01

I wonder why the sole focus is on Prince Andrew? I thought that the Chinese spy also met David Cameron and Theresa May - but we read very little criticism of them.

Deflection?

Common sense would tell you this is the rf board not politics board so no it's not deflection but why would a new thread on the rf board be started to diaucc ex politicians. MN hq would move it.

Lifestooshort71 · 05/04/2025 17:31

He should have probably stayed in the army but he flounced when he didn't like the posting he was offered
I remember it more that he was unable to pass his helicopter pilot's exam (so could only ever co-pilot) and was deemed too thick to study for a promotion to Major so would never progress from Captain Wales - he'd hit a brick wall in other words.

Ohpleeeease · 05/04/2025 17:31

IdaGlossop · 05/04/2025 17:14

I have. Funding for a private office, security or ever and pension. I can just about cope with Cameron and May. It's Truss I struggle with, after her 44 days in office.

I was staggered at just how many of them there are when they were laying wreathes at the Cenotaph. How people think a Republic with a periodically elected HOS would save them money beats me..

IdaGlossop · 05/04/2025 17:36

Ohpleeeease · 05/04/2025 17:27

I like this idea. Meghan could do the equivalent of Cricket Teas in the pavilion.

This really is a good idea. He could invest in bloodstock at the same time. And Meghan could develop a sub-brand: As Ever Polo (except Ralph Lauren might sue).

My2cents1975 · 05/04/2025 17:44

IdaGlossop · 05/04/2025 15:34

I read on this thread yesterday that the Charity Commission's investigative remit extends to people with significant influence over the charity, including patrons. I too thought Harry was safe as a non-trustee but is appears he is not.

I see your point, but the problem is that H is not directly connected to the underlying problem but is a degree removed. He can claim that he did not exert "undue influence" and "reasonably relied on the Trustees". His six-year absence would certainly be spun by a competent lawyer into being a step removed from the Sentebale situation.

IMHO, it makes the Sentebale case far harder to establish versus the African Parks situation where H was President when the allegations of abuse of the local population surfaced. H's lateral move to sit on the African Parks Board still leaves H fully exposed as Board members have a direct fiduciary duty.

I do wish the media would actually engage in investigative reporting for a change and really dig into the African Parks situation as people are being hurt and killed. It is really a disgrace that there has been no real effort to report this, but all the media has reported H's hurty feelings from flouncing out of Sentebale.

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