As ever launch

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Launches tomorrow.

So we will find out the prices and how the products will be sold

I imagine the reason he did those events was it was a way of honouring his mother (as both son and new king)

It's very extreme. I wouldn't let someone I don't know yet despise have this much of an impact on my life. Can't be good for one's mental health.

I have never seen the point in expending energy on something I can't change. I hate Trump, and avoid a lot of coverage of him because it makes me angry and helps no-one.

didn't you ask me fr an example of him being petulant?
I gave you an example of his petulance.
What do you think of his obvious lack of neutrality or do you have your fingers in your ears still?

went to the Tower for a visit during covid.
it was fabulous and very empty as there wee no overseas visitors.
Was actually surprisingly poignant in parts

Oh come off it, one example in 26 years doesn't exactly establish a pattern of behaviour!

I don't see an "obvious lack of neutrality" because I don't spend my time hating him and trying to justify that hatred. It's very bitter.

so no opinion on his obvious lack of neutrality then?
That's fine and I know not to waste any more time talking about a subject you have no knowledge of.
I have not much myself but at least I'm showing an interest

I don't believe he lacks neutrality. It's not something I have observed. Unlike you however I am not feverishly trying to find something on him. I see what is in front of me. I have actually learned from these threads from people far more knowledgeable than me, and I have come to value a lot of their opinions.

I know he expressed views as PoW but he always knew he couldn't do that as king, and I don't think he has.

I've neither the time nor the inclination to go digging for dirt. I am approaching these matters with an open mind.

I was reading today about how very, very difficult it is to get rid of a sitting (I refuse to use the term "serving" given the current incumbent) US President, who is US HoS during the term(s)

I'm a Lefty since my teens and now quite old. The idea of Thatch as HoS made me more (unexpectedly) kindly disposed towards constitutional monarchy and now I'd be happy to hang on to Charles's ankles to stop him leaving if it would prevent the sort of aberration that is Trump representing us on the world stage. Even hypothetically.

sorry, it's just that when you asked me for an xample of his petulance I assumed you wanted an example of his petulance.
Obviously not which is puzzling but fine.

I can come across however I like thank you.

Yes, we see that. Quite a performance.

I think he's a petulant twat

It's often the trait we most dislike in ourselves that we find most unpalatable in others.

If you are describing someone as "petulant" in the present tense, then one example from 26 years ago is a joke!

What's that got to do with his (in your eyes!) perceived "lack of neutrality"? Why are you changing the subject here?

he didn't have to be on show.
no reason at all why he couldnt have had a few days/ weeks citing quiet reflection before doing anything public.

Highly unlikely - impossible, I'd say - that Charles himself on his own decided on that programme of events. They would have been drawn up years before in consultation with people representing all sorts of interests and revisited over the years.

What is this? Don't you understand how it all works? He's not an absolute monarch .

no, he's not but there is no reason he HAD to go on a tour immediately.
There's no lawsaying he must visit eg. the parliamnets within a time frame.
So he could, and probably should have just had a period of mourning and reflection first

It doesn't matter why he did it, he did.

And to have a little bit of compassion towards a newly bereaved man is not a lot to ask.

It says more about you that you don't than his momentary loss of composure does about him.

If I recall he did but then I guess he assumed his duties. I imagine like his mother he saw his service as more important than some discomfort for him. He was raised to do this role. Perhaps that is where he shows his stoicism unlike whiny Harry.

no, he's not but there is no reason he HAD to go on a tour immediately.

A constitutional monarch acts on the advice of his/her ministers. If the monarch refused to act on such advice, the government could, if it so wished, make it a resignation issue, thus provoking a constitutional crisis.

Unlikely that would happen in those particular circumstances, but if the Prime Minister told him he HAD to do it, then he would HAVE to do it.

nobody would say that though.
he'd say my mum's just died, I need a week to myself then we'll crack on.

You are a million miles away from being the king!!

Charles has been brought up to always do his duty. He knows that's what's expected and it was drilled into his mother who always did the same, no matter the personal cost.

As we've said so little real understanding of the reality of the RF and their role by some.

Not sure if anyone posted the NY Post review of the As Ever products:

https://archive.ph/bk1Gp

They were not impressed.

Edited for typo.

could you explain why he couldn't have done that/ taken a week before touring around?

Maybe he felt that it was his duty to show that the monarchy was continuing, which is the approach his mother would have taken. So he might have felt this was the best tribute to her. It may well have helped him with his grief. He certainly found a lot of support from the vast majority of the public that he met. This may well have been comforting to him. Yes he was probably over emotional and a bit tetchy on occasion, but so what? He was a man, dealing with his grief in the way he decided best for him. Just because others would want to have some time off after the death of a loved one doesn’t mean we all react in the same way. And losing it occasionally only human after all 🤷‍♀️

I shared similar to @smilesy - that he wanted to honour his mother in undertaking his duties immediately

Exactly.