As Ever Part 7 - Whatever, however, whenever with edible flowers on top

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New thread as the previous one is full!

If the Dukedom was removed from Harry, how would Meghan be known in the event of divorce ?

@BasiliskStare I absolutely think the palace strategy should be "publish and be damned" and to let Harry sort out his own mess - he ignored all their warnings, after all. I just don't think there's anything she can say about the RF she wouldn't already have said (most of it so laughably lame that I find it hard to believe there's anything else). As for Harry, the bloke's an open book anyway, so he'll survive whatever she has to say about him, I'm sure. I honestly can't decide whether they are on the edge of the precipice, or the most loved up couple in the US. Possibly a co-dependent mix of both.

If the Dukedom were to be removed - which Charles can't do - Act of Parliament I believe then Meghan would be Princess Henry - bit like Princess Michael of Kent. So I imagine the same deal until she got remarried. My belief.

I don't think there's a chance Charles will push for their titles to be removed. 1. originally I think he wanted to see how things went and make it easier for them to come back into the fold 2. After the NF / Spare debacle it would have looked spiteful & I reckon KC takes a longer view. They H&M are increasingly looking a bit Ruritanian so they can cling to those titles but becoming increasing less relevant.

That's been discussed on here for years - more with ref to OW - keeping her investment warm.

There was a previous thread regarding NDAs, it would absolutely be a waste of time with the palace wanting to avoid legal action. A signed NDA would have more weight to the person disclosing. "It must be true" argument as to why there is no legal action.

I agree @Vespanest. If a divorce were to happen & I were KC - I would tell Harry - you can sort any settlement out yourself. We're not giving money to her and not interested in NDAs.

But I do hope it doesn't come to that - for all their sakes.

Anyway , moving on. I quite enjoyed the Vanessa Feltz parody & whilst not to my taste ( in the sense I wouldn't have it ) I did rather like her pink counter tops and splasback in the kitchen.

There is no topping parody and satire when you think about it. I was surprised how funny I found V. Feltz.

I've watched more of VF than MM.

I wanted to have a nosey around her kitchen, I love it (I can see it would be marmite!) but already her parody is more honest.

It is such a fall from grace, she had the world.

Been thinking about it and for me WLM is basically annoying but harmless. It gives space to Meghan to reveal more shallowness and awkwardness but it doesn't do any damage except to her own reputation. Whereas the Oprah interview, the Netflix doco and Spare dripped with spite and injured pride and did cause harm and hurt to others.

I don’t think abs hope they don’t divorce. I think they are enmeshed with each other. They love each other deeply but it’s a toxic love imo. Folie a deux

From what we have seen of both of them in public, I wouldn't be surprised if they have a high conflict relationship at home.

There's a whole history of alcohol and drug abuse as well as serious mental health problems. It's not a fairytale.

The thought had occurred to me that maybe Meghan is drinking a lot and taking drugs as well. She seems so different and looks so different. Apparently she was offering alcohol to Mindy in the morning on the show.Also wasn’t there a time when she appeared drunk on one of these red carpet events?

The evening at the LA children’s event where she wore the red dress again, there’s a video or her, Kelly and another woman and she’s clearly tipsy.

Most of the episodes of the show, she’s drinking at some point. I feel she uses it to calm her nerves. That’s what it felt like in the show.

I would expect she drinks most days. Which seems odd when she’s all about the healthy California lifestyle.

The biggest problem that Meghan has that makes it extremely difficult is that from the reviews people personally found her a bigger problem than the contents. PR can work when people dislike what someone has done, I disliked what Harry and Meghan have done but was able to watch them, I even placed most of the blame on Harry but for me Meghan began to annoy me on screen and media at Dussledorf Invictus and it's grown, I can't even stomach to watch WLM the trailers were enough. It's much easier to change opinion or in some cases forgive if the objection is what they've done rather than who they are.

She looks very blank now I think. Quite different from when they first met.

I briefly watched her latest Instagram release, the one where she is picking flowers in her garden on a Sunday. All soft focus and to music like a feminine perfume advert. As commentators said it seemed rather pointless. Then at the end she puts said flowers into an empty jam jar of water. A jar that looks suspiciously like one of her products. Is this some kind of subliminal advertising? I don’t know for sure but If that is the case it all seems rather sad (and tacky, desperate) to be reduced to this.

As for their relationship it does seem a mystery at this stage. She was really gushing about him in that Barrymore interview; I got some Yolanda RHOBH vibes. Maybe there is some kind of co -dependency. Neither of them seem easy characters, so one wonders how it works. It’s also worth noting how MM bolted from her last two serious relationships - both with her marriage and the chef live-in partner. They lasted a while - but then were over in a flash.

I have an unspoken beef with MIL because she thinks Richard Osman is smug and Bill Bailey shouldn't have won Strictly.

I loved how fair he was on Taskmaster. Always coming up with changes to make it fairer, even to his own detriment.

And even though I find his books awful, I loved what he said about writing. He's lovely.

Yes. She still seems polished and in control to some degree but there is a kind of desperate manic energy going on too (perhaps partly the pressure to make this latest money-making/PR
deal work). With her $ millions and dream home and presumably lovely children she should be living a happy, relaxed life (away from the pesky demands of the RF and her cold cottage at the palace). But for all her protestations that her MWL series is some kind of love-in she looks tense and disengaged quite often; and think of the snippy exchange with Mindy. Like many she’s overdone the Ozempic and looks thin and strained. Not the same confident persona as in her engagement interview.

@Vespanest I can’t bring myself to watch it either. The cringe factor. Maybe I should, Though I haven’t got Netflix. My observations are all around the clips I’ve seen only, or reviews or parodies 🤷‍♀️

Going against the grain, I actually think Meghan looks the best she ever has these days. She’s a stunning woman.

I just watched part of the Drew interview. I’ve never watched that show before but woah, Drew’s gushing is off the scale. Is she like that with all her guests? It’s so over the top!

Whoever said Yolanda of RHOBH vibes, I know what you mean. Yolanda was absolutely gushing about David Foster when she was married to him - she called him "my king" and made it clear much of her focus was about making him happy. Until it wasn't and they were divorced.

I doubt Meghan drinks much because a) it is very fattening and she is very thin so won't want to drink the calories and b) if she was tipsy in a video it's likely because she had a glass of wine but it went to her head as she doesn't eat much. Like Carrie Bradshaw, drunk at Vogue, who said

“Yeah, Cookie's drunk… I'm drunk at Vogue.” Julian: “How can anyone get so drunk on one and a half martini's? Carrie: “I didn't eat breakfast and I'm a size two which should make me perfect for Vogue, but nope, I'm drunk and a failure at Vogue.”

I've got nothing against her, neither for nor against her particularly. I started the first episode and it's just really boring.
I thought though that what Richard Osman said on the podcast was bang on about it just falling apart straight away cos it's filmed in a fake house.
She says right away about it not being her house and taking the bath salts back for her friend Daniel to enjoy at her own house and then they'll come back to the fake house and you're just like "what?". And you kind of instantly lose patience with the whole premise iyswim. He said that would have been the point for him as a producer to say no, this whole concept doesn't work and I agree.

I think Meghan is a good looking woman. I also think the preponderance of cocktails in the show is more to do with the fact that M has added alcohol to her list of products for as Ever than a reflection of her day to day drinking. But I don't know - just how it struck me. I didn't see any clips of her with the red dress on at the children's event but it wouldn't surprise me if that was her "giddy excited Meghan" rather than that she was one over the eight.

@TheNinkyNonkyIsATardis I am sure your MIL is a lovely woman but I think in this she is Wrong 😂 I think both Richard Osman and Bill Bailey are great . Hs she ever seen Bill Bailey's Guide to the Orchestra filmed at the RAH - that's really good.

PS. Does anyone else wonder if Harry has some kind (I believe there are different kinds) of ADHD?