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As Ever Part 7 - Whatever, however, whenever with edible flowers on top

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TheWayTheLightFalls · 07/03/2025 13:14

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Mylovelygreendress · 10/03/2025 19:18

JandamiHash · 10/03/2025 17:46

This bit is genuinely hilarious:

powerful storytelling through a truthful and relatable lens

David Tennant What GIF by Doctor Who

Couldn’t find one of Emmanuel

JandamiHash · 10/03/2025 19:30

I think a whole heap of credit needs to go to the Palace’s press team in all this. They REALLY pulled off Harry being a Cheeky Chappy Prince didn’t they - concealing the fact he’s a nasty, lying self pitying dimwit (and I think he always has been it was just surpressed by a hard working team) with all the negative attributes of his mother and none of the kindness and charm. Diana was unhinged, and melodramatic, and petty, and a hypocrite- all traits that Harry possesses…but she was also a wonderful philanthropist who actually made visible changes in the world, she was charming and charismatic and relatable. He has none of those traits. I think he thought he met a Diana 2.0 in Meghan but sadly they are very similar people. They’re best of out of it. We don’t want them back

BigWillyLittleTodger · 10/03/2025 19:44

cruel and inhospitable treatment she received in this country

Comments from journalists like this seriously piss me off, she was given extra special treatment from the Queen before she was even married to Harry, given a huge apartment at Kensington Palace then a house on the Windsor estate, made a Patron of the National Theatre, made Vice President of the Commonwealth Trust, a 30 million pound plus wedding where the country came out in droves to wish them well and that’s just off the top of my head, it’s absolute lies like this that feed this myth she is a victim of the cruel royal family and this horrific country when in fact she won the life lottery and threw it back because it wasn’t enough.

LivelyMintViper · 10/03/2025 19:48

BigWillyLittleTodger · 10/03/2025 19:44

cruel and inhospitable treatment she received in this country

Comments from journalists like this seriously piss me off, she was given extra special treatment from the Queen before she was even married to Harry, given a huge apartment at Kensington Palace then a house on the Windsor estate, made a Patron of the National Theatre, made Vice President of the Commonwealth Trust, a 30 million pound plus wedding where the country came out in droves to wish them well and that’s just off the top of my head, it’s absolute lies like this that feed this myth she is a victim of the cruel royal family and this horrific country when in fact she won the life lottery and threw it back because it wasn’t enough.

It's pissing me off too. We keep hearing about the cruelty but nobody ever gives specifics. And what about the cruelty of the American press? Now that we can give specifics for

JandamiHash · 10/03/2025 19:52

Not to mention the Royals enjoy special privacy agreements from British paparazzi after Diana’s death. If you see a pap picture from the Royals it was taken by foreign press. Harry is totally obsessed with the press, and tho is “not being in love with Meghan” = “hating Meghan” such is the size of their unbearable egos. Having insight into Meghan’s “I care soooo much” (fake) world it must have out the shots up her to realise that in the UK Royals are held accountable for their behaviour

CathyorClaire · 10/03/2025 20:19

We are pleased to work with Ted and the team at Netflix whose unprecedented reach will help us share impactful content that unlocks action.”

If only 'Polo' had shared the impact of Harold's spurs on the sides of his polo pony, rather than featuring vacuous toff buddies with nothing better to do.

It might have unlocked action on the endless cruelties associated with the 'sport'

CathyorClaire · 10/03/2025 20:29

I should say I always had a great deal of sympathy for Meghan for the cruel and inhospitable treatment she received in this country.

Wonder if that includes the £2.4m spent refurbing (to her own specs) what was later deemed a bit of a hovel and the £32m cost of her second wedding?

PigglyWigglyOhYeah · 10/03/2025 20:47

Let me get my little violin all tuned up ready for the Meghan Pity Waltz. Her, and her second choice tiara. Poor love.

MissRoseDurward · 10/03/2025 20:57

Princess Anne probably throws a pheasant on a bare wooden table and says “help yourself” to her guests (not exactly but you get my drift).

Does anyone recall the story of Theresa May, the Queen and the cheese? It comes at about 2 minutes in:

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvc0qJ3zxN4

Onlyonekenobe · 10/03/2025 21:15

TBH I think there probably was some level of Meghan and Harry having to suck up things people might object to eg unfair press criticism. It's the sort of thing that often happens in families: "look, I know it's going to be difficult for you but can't you just bite your tongue and not engage with your brother so granny can have the 80th birthday party she deserves?". That kind of thing but to do with stories in the press which painted other people in a favourable light relative to them.

But H&M - and I'm going to say Meghan, egging on Harry, because although he says he always minded this stuff pre-Meghan, he never did anything about it - saw all this stuff as so detrimental to their image and therefore their standing and future earning power as to be the single most important thing in their lives. And/or they needed something to blame Megxit on.

Most people would agree to suck up a lot of this in order for the privileges H&M enjoyed. AND, even more people would be clever enough to not make a song and dance about this in case people rightly pointed at all their privileges and accused them of being spoilt brats who couldn't suck up a few little things in return for a life of luxury. But not these two. And they're in way too deep now.

FromTheOfficeOfJammyTodger · 10/03/2025 21:57

MayaKovskaya · 10/03/2025 18:52

"cruel and inhospitable treatment she received in this country" 😂😂😂

Yep. Total crock of shit.

MayaKovskaya · 10/03/2025 22:20

I loved Theresa May's tribute to a wise and modest woman who lived a life of service.
Sadly, service is not universal.

AtIusvue · 10/03/2025 22:25

Food Blogger, The Federalist.

‘ I’m not entirely sure exactly what Meghan Markle is going for with her new show, “With Love, Meghan,” but I’m pretty sure few people understand it for the true comedic genius Netflix has graced us with. Styled as part cooking show, part lifestyle show, it’s jampacked with unoriginal ideas and tips you’ve definitely seen on Pinterest before.
Don’t get me wrong — as a living, moving Pinterest board, “With Love, Meghan” delivers a fabulous aesthetic. But much like a Pinterest board, actually replicating any bit of said coastal California aesthetic is likely impossible, without first tracking down actual recipes, more detailed instructions, and someone to bankroll it all while keeping those pesky young children and husband away.
Meghan’s main theme, “with love,” forcefully oozes in every scene. Meghan will* *show you how much she loves you, like it or not, by creating hamfisted “moments” with random factoids she assuredly had her guests fill out on a questionnaire beforehand.
As a way to launch “the real Meghan” and celebrate a sort of coming out to her real, post-royal life, the series is shot at a rented house, not her sprawling Montecito estate. None of the recipes she does make are her own (they are sourced from Pinterest or blogs whose names we will never know.) She changes outfits no less than 20 times in eight “days” — sometimes three outfits in one morning. We’re treated to lots of stories from Meghan’s past, and life at home, though most are completely nonsensical, and many completely contradictory.
In episode one, we’re treated to a glimpse of Meghan’s bees and told that women should do scary, important things, like keeping bees. In an incredibly relatable, affordable, and woman-affirming twist, she’s hired a professional (male, natch) beekeeper to do all the actual “scary” work for her, as she stands at a safe distance, dancing in a beekeeper suit and coos “good vibes for good hives” to the hive that is totally hers, and something she absolutely has seen before in her yard. I truly believe the only time she’s been near any part of this process previously is to scoop honeycomb from the trays, as it is the only thing we see her take part in.
Nothing About This Woman Screams Home Cook
The episode moves on from bees to what can only be described as the most unhinged one-pot pasta scene I have ever witnessed (and as a food blogger, I’ve seen it all), in which she boils a kettle of water to pour over uncooked spaghetti, diced tomatoes, and herbs in a pan, to then boil and thicken. No sautéing for flavor here, just a pile of pasta in its own starchy “cream” with some quick-boiled herbs. We’re told some of the ingredients, a smattering of details for others, and some things are left completely to the viewer’s interpretation. Most of her recipes are like this. Only the chefs who are invited on each episode seem to have any interest in informing viewers what they are adding into a recipe, and why.
One chef has her brine chicken in milk, a concept she is completely flummoxed by (as an aside, the viral Jamie Oliver chicken in milk recipe from over a decade ago will make anyone a believer), as is the thought of parboiling chicken before frying.
At one point, as Meghan is prepping breakfast before celebrity Mindy Kaling arrives to host a pretend kids’ tea party that is void of any children, she cooks some bacon and talks of how bacon makes all the men in her house come running. She starts shimmying and breaks into a sing-songy voice declaring “it’s not my perfume; my bacon brings all the boys to the yard.”
Meghan’s jokes that land terribly are only slightly more uncomfortable than watching her using a knife. She somehow always chooses a paring knife, and has seemingly never heard of a chef’s knife. The fact her fingers remain unscathed after eight episodes is somewhat of a miracle. Meghan opts for fussy, overcomplicated methods while telling people to keep it simple and cares more about clapping over her handiwork at sprinkling “accessories” (dried flower petal sprinkles which run around $20 for 4 ounces) over her food.
Forced Artificial ‘Moments’
Throughout the series, Meghan is obsessed with the idea of creating “moments.” She has dreamt out exactly how she wants her guests to live and move in her world. She goes to prep snacks (popcorn she makes from dried corn she places in a paper bag and microwaves, which is a genuinely fun trick), or making homemade coffee creamer that she almost scalds and a cameraman is forced to bring her attention to so it doesn’t boil over. It’s a lovely sentiment to find little things friends love and spoil them, but it feels so desperate and over the top.
There is a way to entertain effortlessly while adding lots of personal touches that show you care about your guest, but Meghan seems so fixated on this idea of magic “moments” that I can’t believe she, nor her guests, will ever feel relaxed enough for any of this forced whimsy to play out as she has crafted in her mind. Can you imagine not soaking in a bath after your host blathered on and on about how she mixed you a custom bath salt, complete with “bath tea bag” of flower petal if you didn’t feel like it?
There is a moment when Meghan’s guest is teaching her to make dumplings (Meghan’s guests often do the actual work while she faffs about in the kitchen, telling stories of her legendary hostessing skills) Meghan is stopped in her tracks as her friend says to mix a slurry. “A slurry? I’ve NEVER heard this word!” she exclaims. She breaks into a bit of a refrain about a slurry, it’s such a novel word. Really? A slurry? What home cook has never made a cornstarch water mixture to thicken something, or at the very least, heard of it?
There are many other awkward, cringey bits, like when Mindy Kaling refers to Meghan by her maiden name, Markle; and Meghan rushes to scold her “It’s not Markle… I’m Sussex now!” in a tone she attempts to play off as giggly, though she’s obviously very sensitive about it — enough so to scold her so-called friend out over it. She explains she’s making this new life where she can be herself and shares this special last name with her children, though surely Meghan knows her children’s legal last names are not, in fact, Sussex but Mountbatten-Windsor? Sussex is merely her styling, a name gifted by the institution she is throwing a party for herself in the last episode to celebrate escaping from.
Through it all, there is the clapping. Meghan is constantly clapping, with her hands lifted high in front of her face, fingers perfectly straight and flat. Greeting a friend who has just come over? Clap. Taking a drink order? Clap. Tasting a bite of food? Clap and a wiggle. If you made a drinking game centered around every time Meghan claps, you’d end each episode on the floor.
While the show is shot beautifully and there was clearly a fantastic production team, with an incredible camera crew, and amazing style, the show really needed a director who wasn’t the host. Meghan jumps from story to story in an utterly confusing way. In one moment, she’s making donuts and says she will bake them, since she’s never made donuts, and baking sounds easier than frying. Not even forty seconds later, she says she used to work at a shop that made mini donuts, and she used to make them when she worked there.
She often talks of being proud of the life she’s built and the home she’s curated, but never shows any of it, opting for a set instead of filming in her own home. She hosts a sort of launch party for her new persona — Meghan Sussex — a title for a job she didn’t want to keep.
As far as the show goes, if you don’t take it too seriously, it isn’t horrible to watch. Meghan’s style is whimsical and fun, and she shows some pretty decent looking food, pasta aside. Her tips for styling flowers are genuinely useful. If you have nothing but piles of money to spend, all day to prance around, and no access to Pinterest yourself, you’ll find a ton of inspiration.’

The only point I’d argue with here, was her floral arranging tips were pants.

AutumnCrowRoyale · 10/03/2025 22:43

It's like every reviewer feels obliged to say one nice thing about the programme, but because there really isn't anything positive at all to say, they just make some shit up.

RevolutionaryMode · 10/03/2025 23:02

JSMill · 10/03/2025 09:54

Don't forget she got her mitts on some of Diana's jewellery. Theoretically speaking, what would happen if they divorced?

I imagine the same thing that would happen if Catherine and William divorced. Diana’s grandchildren would inherit it.

glitterturd · 11/03/2025 00:13

The impression I got was that at times Meghan wasn't even in the same room as her make up artist . She rarely looked at him. He seemed dense and I wondered if he was chosen to make Meghan look smart.

JandamiHash · 11/03/2025 01:56

I saw a really funny video on Instagram (which I won’t link to as Instagram outs you if you copy and paste) about the show. Heartthrobrobanderson - worth a watch. He talks about when Meghan is making the dog biscuits she says “Filtered water of course” and the guy says “Heaven forbid you give tap water to an animal that licks other dogs butts” 😂

Watching episode 3 while I read/MN. The part where they show a film of Harry shouting “boo” at her on a hike and her throwing her hands to her face laughing is so unbelievably fake. I can’t decide if Harry is into the gallery too or just too thick to notice it’s not a real reaction? Also who the fuck says “Boo” to scare someone over the age of about 9?

Bri5 · 11/03/2025 02:02

I’m from New England (everything east of New York). Around here, people describe the West Coast as 'nice without being kind,' while the Northeast is 'kind without being nice.'

For example, if you get a flat tire in New England, we’ll help you change it—but not without first pointing out that you can’t park in the breakdown lane even though it’s clear as day why you’ve stopped there. And while helping, we’ll make sure to chastise you for not knowing how to handle such a basic life skill, (… at your age? Does your father not love you? What else don’t you know? Need me to teach you how to wipe your ass too??). You’ll be left with a fully inflated tire and a slightly bruised ego. And we’ll walk away thinking we made a new friend.

JandamiHash · 11/03/2025 02:26

I feel like the friendships in this are weird. There’s no natural chemistry - it feels like when you are meeting up with a friend and they’re bringing someone you only half know - but then the friend doesn’t turn up and you’re stuck with this sort of acquaintance trying to make nice conversation.

There’s gushing is very odd indeed. Delfi saying she’s obsessed with Meghan was very weird.

Also notice there’s very little footage of them eating food. The odd nibble is filmed, but that’s about it. I suspect these Californians have never eaten a full bowl of pasta.

LovelyJubly12 · 11/03/2025 06:22

JandamiHash · 11/03/2025 01:56

I saw a really funny video on Instagram (which I won’t link to as Instagram outs you if you copy and paste) about the show. Heartthrobrobanderson - worth a watch. He talks about when Meghan is making the dog biscuits she says “Filtered water of course” and the guy says “Heaven forbid you give tap water to an animal that licks other dogs butts” 😂

Watching episode 3 while I read/MN. The part where they show a film of Harry shouting “boo” at her on a hike and her throwing her hands to her face laughing is so unbelievably fake. I can’t decide if Harry is into the gallery too or just too thick to notice it’s not a real reaction? Also who the fuck says “Boo” to scare someone over the age of about 9?

I read about this ( can’t bear to watch any of it ). It just reaffirmed my impression that Harry is an overgrown schoolboy. He writes like one in Spare. My impression is he larks around with his kids a bit, but mostly they are taken care of by staff. He juggles, he does some water sports in a very expensive fake lake type set up , he probably sleeps late and games for hours. That may suit her as he’s not encroaching on her space. She can pretend to ‘work’ and faff about feeling self important, bossing the staff around with him out of the way. I suspect not much genuine parenting going on , but a lot of patting themselves on the back because they aren’t the Wales’ who they consider to be terrible parents and role models.

ThePoshUns · 11/03/2025 07:05

I saw a clip of the Drew B interview where MM is talking about being away from the kids and recording herself reading a story that she says 'whoever is putting , then corrects herself when Poppa is putting the kids to bed can play it to them' I don't get the impression he does much of the real work.

RevolutionaryMode · 11/03/2025 07:06

‘Fake lake type set up.’

That’s a wave pool.

Wave pools allow landlocked surfers to ride perfect, ocean-like barrels 365 days a year

Kelly Slater (world champion surfer you decades) owns more than one. Waves can vary in size etc. It’s great idea, even if you live by the surf because on days when surf isn’t good you can still surf. Surfers are usually extremely fit.

LovelyJubly12 · 11/03/2025 07:07

RevolutionaryMode · 11/03/2025 07:06

‘Fake lake type set up.’

That’s a wave pool.

Wave pools allow landlocked surfers to ride perfect, ocean-like barrels 365 days a year

Kelly Slater (world champion surfer you decades) owns more than one. Waves can vary in size etc. It’s great idea, even if you live by the surf because on days when surf isn’t good you can still surf. Surfers are usually extremely fit.

Only for the very rich though I imagine.

EsmaCannonball · 11/03/2025 07:15

I didn't read Spare, only the hilarious extracts printed in the press and on here, but Harry was a man in his thirties who drank a lot, took a load of drugs, spent his days gaming and watching cartoons, and who lived like a student because he was far too stingy to spend any of his own millions on decent clothes or furniture. And this was an improvement on his younger days when he was even more boorish and useless.

Harry is the bait to bring in money but, other than that, Meghan is dragging him round like a deadweight. I think the two reasons they didn't shoot at their own house are a) it's big but it's dated and not that well-kept, and b) Harry's deadbeat presence would belie Meghan's image of perfection.

MayaKovskaya · 11/03/2025 07:18

What was that phrase in one review, @EsmaCannonball ? That they half expected "Harry to turn up in his shorts and a bathrobe, with a spliff in his hand".

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