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As Ever Part 7 - Whatever, however, whenever with edible flowers on top

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TheWayTheLightFalls · 07/03/2025 13:14

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BemusedAmerican · 08/03/2025 23:46

They also kept hoping that Harry would show up, stoned and in a bathrobe and shorts, holding a joint, to liven it up.

jeffgoldblum · 08/03/2025 23:48

BemusedAmerican · 08/03/2025 23:46

They also kept hoping that Harry would show up, stoned and in a bathrobe and shorts, holding a joint, to liven it up.

🤣🤣 excellent!

RecoIIectionsMayVary · 08/03/2025 23:53

Thank you. That is very funny.

FromTheOfficeOfJammyTodger · 09/03/2025 00:18

BemusedAmerican · 08/03/2025 22:57

Review from local San Francisco paper:

https://archive.is/lZN5y

Thanks for the link. Another liberal newspaper, IIRC, not an attack from the right wing press as some would claim.

Starlia · 09/03/2025 00:27

From the article: “Dead shark look in her eyes” such an apt description!

BemusedAmerican · 09/03/2025 00:39

The article wtiter, Tony Bravo, describes himself on Instagram ad a lover of farmers markets and small dogs. He seems somewhat liberal to me:

https://www.sfchronicle.com/membership/article/show-tell-tony-bravo-queer-nightlife-edition-19464693.php

Galdownunder · 09/03/2025 00:42

It’s dropped off the top 10 on Netflix here in Australia already.

FromTheOfficeOfJammyTodger · 09/03/2025 00:48

Dr Grande: "It's important to limit one's time in proximity to productions starring Meghan Markle. Much like an engineer would limit their time working in Chernobyl." Ouch!

MidnightTales · 09/03/2025 00:58

I can’t bring myself to watch it. Though I have read quite a few reviews, including today Julie Burchill’s excellent one in the Spectator.

However I suspect you get a much more accurate sense of her nonsensical insincere modus operandi by watching it.

She’s not an axe murderer or anything so I have to remind myself she hasn’t harmed anyone - so to keep a sense of proportion! But I just cannot bear being constantly lectured to by a privileged valley girl who used her good looks and seductive powers to bag a prince and monetise the hell out of it. There is no humility whatsoever as she presents herself as the world expert and moral arbitrator on everything. She has also proven herself to be the ultimate opportunist rushing from one identity to another to further her aims; one day it’s torn jeans and BLM, the next day flower petals, bee keeping and polo. I suspect it’s pretty much all about filthy lucre at the end of the day, plus the need for anttention, and always has been.

Anyway, enjoying the humour and insights of everyone’s posts!!

MidnightTales · 09/03/2025 01:29

I also find her a bit fascinating for other reasons. To me she perfectly represents a type of outlook that is history now. Everything about her is out of date, insincere and therefore hackneyed. As a narcissist (probably) she is an imitator above all else. She hasn’t moved on from the Tig really (except she’s a “mama” now plus a bit more social status). BLM and race baiting the RF was a minor aberration from her aspirational living, but even that was part of her PR and self-promotion. She is stuck in that privileged time warp and looks increasingly dated and derivative with every new project or proclamation she announces - but neither her or those around her appear to have any insight into this. The world has changed.

MrsLeonFarrell · 09/03/2025 07:02

That's a thoughtful take. It is taking in the whole series and has things to say about the good and bad bits. The SF article was just mean. I think the Rolling Stone title sums up a truth about Meghan, that she wants everyone to love her.

I had a quick peek at the Instagram of the girl in The Daily Mail. She had a brief film of the event in New York. Meghan was surrounded by her fans, hugging and laughing and glowing in their love and approval.

It made me slightly sad. She doesn't need to put herself out there but she craves love and approval (which let's face it lots of celebrities do) which no one gets from everyone. I hope that she is happy with her new venture and avoids the reviews.

MrsLeonFarrell · 09/03/2025 07:05

@glitterturd thanks for the Google hint. I did have a look. I can see why the relationship with fans is concerning but I stand by my point that it isn't unique to Meghan. There are many young girls like that person who are struggling in their lives and get overly attached to celebrities who foster some kind of contact. It isn't new, I'm thinking of news articles about Bay City Roller fans i read, but social media has turbo charged the phenomenon. I'm not sure what can be done but parents should certainly be aware.

FromTheOfficeOfJammyTodger · 09/03/2025 08:14

MrsLeonFarrell · 09/03/2025 07:05

@glitterturd thanks for the Google hint. I did have a look. I can see why the relationship with fans is concerning but I stand by my point that it isn't unique to Meghan. There are many young girls like that person who are struggling in their lives and get overly attached to celebrities who foster some kind of contact. It isn't new, I'm thinking of news articles about Bay City Roller fans i read, but social media has turbo charged the phenomenon. I'm not sure what can be done but parents should certainly be aware.

Once again, what is unique to MM is that she now has an international, political platform holding herself out to be an online safeguarding expert. Which is the reason she should not have re-connected with this group of former child groupies who were into an adult content programme and trying to meet up personally with the stars/stranger adults of that programme, and did indeed appear to have met up with Markle/a stranger adult.

MrsLeonFarrell · 09/03/2025 08:20

FromTheOfficeOfJammyTodger · 09/03/2025 08:14

Once again, what is unique to MM is that she now has an international, political platform holding herself out to be an online safeguarding expert. Which is the reason she should not have re-connected with this group of former child groupies who were into an adult content programme and trying to meet up personally with the stars/stranger adults of that programme, and did indeed appear to have met up with Markle/a stranger adult.

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I agree that if she is going to set herself up as an online safeguarding expert she should follow good safeguarding procedures herself. I appreciate the responses because when I first posted i wasn't thinking about the full context. I still don't like the word "groomed" but I'll concede to the other points raised that this is an area of concern that does not speak well to her other social media campaigns.

elessar · 09/03/2025 08:35

As Ever is now down to 10 in the UK top ten on NF - good chance it will have dropped out by tomorrow or in the next couple of days.

Did anyone else clock Meghan's Instagram post for IWD? It strikes me how frequently she's using shots of Lili to promote her new venture but not Archie on her Instagram. And yes, it is a post for IWD so you'd expect it to be mainly women/girls featured but she has two shots including Harry on there.

Also, was it Harry who said Lili has blonde hair (making some sort of Diana comparison)? Because she definitely doesn't. I hope they can let the little girl be her own person and not try to force her into the mould of her long dead grandmother.

AtIusvue · 09/03/2025 08:40

Washington Post:

As Ever Part 7 - Whatever, however, whenever with edible flowers on top
FromTheOfficeOfJammyTodger · 09/03/2025 08:40

And I appreciate your concern over the word "grooming" @MrsLeonFarrell and the connotations that word holds. I do however think, as I think you pointed out in a pp, that the scope of harm that can be done to children from interactions on the internet is just beginning to be discovered. And goes beyond worrying about just that one type of interaction that may end in an extreme result. Inappropriate relationships/dynamics/obligations/fascinations/ cult like worship/negative mental health results can also arise from what appear to be straightforward/harmless exchanges, that can do considerable harm. And then we have to balance in acceptance of an online culture that is not going away and the protection of free speech.

MM is not the person who should be at the forefront of that conversation. She's proven, by her own actions, that she either does not understand it, or that she only cares to talk about it insofar as in affects herself negatively (her bad press and critics), and is prepared to ignore it when it benefits her (the actions of her extreme fan base).

MayaKovskaya · 09/03/2025 08:44

elessar · 09/03/2025 08:35

As Ever is now down to 10 in the UK top ten on NF - good chance it will have dropped out by tomorrow or in the next couple of days.

Did anyone else clock Meghan's Instagram post for IWD? It strikes me how frequently she's using shots of Lili to promote her new venture but not Archie on her Instagram. And yes, it is a post for IWD so you'd expect it to be mainly women/girls featured but she has two shots including Harry on there.

Also, was it Harry who said Lili has blonde hair (making some sort of Diana comparison)? Because she definitely doesn't. I hope they can let the little girl be her own person and not try to force her into the mould of her long dead grandmother.

You're right to be concerned. Why call her Princess Lilibet Diana? Why focus on how blonde she is? Her "blue, blue eyes".
That's the agenda.

Words · 09/03/2025 08:46

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AtIusvue · 09/03/2025 08:48

The Rolling Stone Article is really interesting. Less about the show and more that we don’t know who she is because she constantly contradicts herself:

‘This moment stands out not only because it’s awkward — Kaling is just trying to joke around and, let’s be honest, everyone knows her as “Meghan Markle” — but because it demonstrates how Meghan can’t get out of her own way. Not only is she constantly renaming her brands — American Riviera Orchard was recently transformed into As Ever due to a trademark dispute — she’s also rapidly rebranding herself as she shifts from actor to activist to royal and, now, she hopes, lifestyle guru. It’s not uncommon for celebrities to reinvent themselves, but her identity can be difficult to ascertain when, as the Duchess of Sussex, she’s staging her own royal tours of Colombia while “Meghan Sussex” is selling us a polished and pristine home fantasy on a TV show. And with each pivot she takes, it feels like we’re the ones being scolded if we’re not meeting her exactly where she’s at.

And at the heart of these contradictions is the constant tension over whether or not Meghan really wants to be royalty. In the Netflix docuseries Meghan & Harry, she mocked the pageantry of curtsying to the late Queen Elizabeth II, but she seemingly has no problem with people bowing to her, as they sometimes do when she meets the public. In the credits for her cooking show, she uses her royal title — Meghan, the Duchess of Sussex — which is how she describes herself on Instagram, too. But in the show’s title, she’s just “Meghan.” Renaming herself “Meghan Sussex” feels like a way to bring these different versions together’

Weepixie · 09/03/2025 09:02

She’s not an axe murderer or anything so I have to remind myself she hasn’t harmed anyone

In the words of HLMQ - I think recollections may vary on that.

Weepixie · 09/03/2025 09:08

MayaKovskaya · 09/03/2025 08:44

You're right to be concerned. Why call her Princess Lilibet Diana? Why focus on how blonde she is? Her "blue, blue eyes".
That's the agenda.

Or perhaps he just misses his mum and is trying to keep her memory of her alive in his mind through his wee girl. I’ve looked for my darling mum in all of my grandchildren but not for any dubious reason. My heart just wanted to see her in them.

elessar · 09/03/2025 09:11

Indeed @Weepixie - she's harmed a lot of people, both directly (through her bullying and damaging lies on the world stage toward people who can't defend themselves) and indirectly (through her vicious and scary Sussex squad attack dogs)

She claimed the media criticism and social media comments she received while in the RF were "almost unsurvivable" - and what she's meted out herself is far more damaging and unpleasant.

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