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Meghan’s show IS something new and different.

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AtIusvue · 06/03/2025 13:08

So we have it wrong. THIS IS an entirely new format for a cookery/lifestyle show. Because it isn’t a cookery/lifestyle show. This is Netflix first foray into the world of informercials and they are doing it in NF style; meaning a big budget and a slight twist.

So With Love, Meghan is a 5hr advert for As ever and Meghan Sussex. But what makes it different; is it has been disguised as a lifestyle show and there’s no direct sales. It’s the soft sell…..very beige and subtle.

So every recipe and story Meghan shares, is designed around an As ever product. Even conversations with friends are designed to either sell Meghan or a product.

For example. In Ep 8, she makes shortbread with edible flowers. A packet mix of shortbread with edible flowers is now on the As ever website. Now on the show, we don’t see her open the box. But what we do see, is her giving a very quick run through of a basic dough recipe and then tell the viewer they can just use shop bought. The majority of the time isn’t spent in the baking, it’s spent on the decorating with edible flowers.
This is by design. All the baked goods she’s shows you on the programme, she says things like ‘I don’t enjoy baking’, ‘I’ve never made doughnuts before’, ‘ I only learned last week to make focaccia’ ‘I don’t like measuring’
So while viewers who are expecting to watch a cookery show, are flummoxed by someone with such little baking skills teaching us- it’s because it’s an advert and she’s selling the idea that the baking part isn’t important. So when the As ever baked goods mixes appear after the advert goes out, people will want to buy. Because they know that even Meghan doesn’t like baking. That it’s ok to skip that part, and focus on the decorating and gifting part.

This is soft selling infomercials. It’s a Netflix/QVC hybrid. She is directly selling you the idea and lifestyle, but softly selling you the products. You find out what these products are, after the show.

More examples-
Ep 1 where she makes an Epsom salt bath mix (As ever TM pending). The honey and ginger tea she shares with her friend Daniel is on the As ever website. Teapots are also intended to be sold. The raspberry jam that she uses in the cake she bakes (which again, is a very basic mix and she runs through quickly- because we know she wants to sell packets of the stuff) is now available in the website. As is the honey she used for the cake syrup.

So Ep 2, where we see Meghan make kids party bags. Included are kids gardening tools (which is under the As ever TM application) a honey stick (TM application ) and plant pots (TM application)

Everything is for sale. When in Ep. 7 Meghan puts shop bought croissants in a basket and decants jam into little ramekins, a quick look at the TM application confirms that these are all items she intends to sell under As ever.

How does the soft sell look?

Take for example the jam on the show. The label isn’t on the jar, so it’s not directly selling the brand, As ever. But it’s the same jar shape and we know that it’s raspberry because the cake is decorated with fresh raspberries on top, indicating the jam used. Or the crepe are served with the jam and fresh raspberry’s. It’s all very subtle. The raspeberry jam product then drops straight after the show.

The stories she shares are designed to sell too. For example; her memory of her gran making apple butter- she has fruit butters under her TM application.

Even conversations with friends are designed to sell not only Meghan (how wonderful she is) but they are designed to introduce products in the As ever line. So in Ep 5 we see Meghan’s friends Kelly and Abby discuss Meghans love of spicy condiments - these are under the As ever TM application. We also see Abby discuss Meghans love of flowers and how she helped her in her floral business. From the TM application, you can see it is As Ever’s intention to sell fresh flowers and plants. It’s also why we are given floral demonstrations with ‘supermarket’ flowers.

Conversations with her friend Vicky too in Ep 7, about how Meghan loves a polished skin look, while making face masks- again, we see As ever intends to sell non medicated skin products from the TM application.

The show is a practical demonstration of how to use her products, but the products are released after the advert. When you cross ref the TM application items with what was seen on screen, you see clearly that everything is designed for a sale. Crockery, candles,baskets, wrapping paper, jam etc.

Another tell that this is an infomercial hybrid, is the fact that they have said more As ever items will be released seasonally. Why? What’s seasonal about honey and ginger tea and crepe mix that it’s to come out in spring? These are store cupboard items, not seasonal products.
What they actually mean is, when a new advert comes out, new products will be introduced and added to the collection.

This is why all the press reviews for the show mean nothing. NF won’t care that’s it’s ridiculed. We have all just watched the advert they wanted us to watch. What they want is for it to translate into sales for As ever. It really doesn’t matter how much critical acclaim the show gets, as it’s just a vehicle for the products.
Additionally, we know from the TM application that As ever wants to enter the podcast world. So her new podcast will be in furtherance to the brand and selling the products. But again, it will be a soft sell, not direct.

So it IS a completely new style of cooking show. It goes beyond product placement but isn’t direct selling. I think meghan and NF think they have been very clever. At some point everyone will figure out these are just adverts and work out that every recipe, conversation and story, is linked to an item that you can buy on the As ever website straight after the show.

She’s not trying to be Martha Stewart, she wants to be the new Kathy Ireland ……Meghan Sussex. That’s why there’s been a name rebrand. It’s trying to copy the Kathys mega brand (huge in the US, unknown here) but direct selling her own products….but in a 2025 Netflix kinda way.

So the purpose of the informercial was to

1- introduce the name Meghan Sussex. That’s why they’ve included the car crash ticking off Mindy got- because at least it got her new brand name in. It’s the new Kathy Ireland.

2- To sell the new Meghan Sussex image. So throughout each episode, her friends fawn over her and tell her how amazing she is at everything- cooking, hosting, flower arrange etc.

3- To soft sell the lifestyle wirh generic, no label products first, then find out what the As ever products are after. I’m sure this is a way to get around not having to list the show as an advertisement. That’s also why the name of the show and her product line are different. So it’s not seen as traditional advertisement.

With her appearance on Drew Barrymore, she’s confirming the new brand name, confirming that she’s this super nice, working mom and that she has products to sell you.

Absolutely shameless and so underhand in my opinion……but it might work.

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pursuitOfSomething · 26/03/2025 10:48

I think she so obviously nothing to do with the RF at this stage that her selling jam or clothes or flowers doesn't reflect on them or the UK.

I've read articles suggesting she plans to become a billionaire with her bussinesses - what can you say but good luck to her.
https://businessplus.ie/business-insights/meghan-markle-billionaire/

I not sure about her masterplan and I do wonder why she has to lean so heavily on her UK husbands title and it's reflective and diminishing glory - but giver her her due she does keep trying. I think she's picked some dud projects - her TV show not held audiences and is widly panned- but if she can do something with it good on her.

Meghan Markle

The business ambitions that Meghan Markle believes will make her 'a billionaire'

Meghan Markle apparently believes her slew of business initiatives will make her “a billionaire”, writes Rebecca English.

https://businessplus.ie/business-insights/meghan-markle-billionaire/

marcopront · 26/03/2025 15:36

MakeYourOwnMusicStartYourOwnDance · 26/03/2025 10:39

Lol 😂 You'd probably love that, wouldn't you.
They looked pretty happy in the show to me, Harry seems to be a lot happier away from all the press intrusion and negativity over here.

If I was trying to avoid the press I wouldn’t make a Netflix show.

BasiliskStare · 27/03/2025 14:11

I would be interested in whether Meghan is receiving the commission , or part of it , from the links posted in People to kitchen implements used in WLM. They say on the page commission may be paid if you click the links but not to whom. Is it a thing for magazines to do this as well as individual influencers . I would have thought these items are ones which M would have wanted the commission on? I am ignorant of how these things work , though. 😊

glitterturd · 27/03/2025 15:47

She will need to sell a heck of a lot of ear rings to become a billionaire.

Serenster · 27/03/2025 17:24

She will also need to pay tax, and fees to her agent or business manager, and to her public relations team/employees etc. It’s not all profit.

MrsFinkelstein · 28/03/2025 07:51

Serenster · 27/03/2025 17:24

She will also need to pay tax, and fees to her agent or business manager, and to her public relations team/employees etc. It’s not all profit.

Exactly. Which is why she was never actually a millionaire when she met Harry.

Theoretically she had earned millions from her years on Suits - but by the time taxes are paid, agent fees, PR fees, living costs etc. She won't have been poor by any means, but if she was worth as much as has been claimed she would have owned property, a car. I assume she made some investments, but property is usually something that most start investing their money in.

AutumnCrowRoyale · 28/03/2025 11:59

MrsFinkelstein · 28/03/2025 07:51

Exactly. Which is why she was never actually a millionaire when she met Harry.

Theoretically she had earned millions from her years on Suits - but by the time taxes are paid, agent fees, PR fees, living costs etc. She won't have been poor by any means, but if she was worth as much as has been claimed she would have owned property, a car. I assume she made some investments, but property is usually something that most start investing their money in.

Yes, during her Suits days she had all those California-based agents and 'her people' around her, all of whom were taking their cut of her income: Sunshine Sachs is expensive - it's not just a PR firm but also a 'full-service communications and narrative consulting firm'. Perhaps their existence and her outgoings were what persuaded the royal family that she was a serious actor / serious person?

On top of Sunshine Sachs and PR/narrative people, she had to pay her agents, like Nick Collins of the Gersch Agency; and Hollywood lawyers like Rick Genow; and business managers like Andrew Meyer. Then there was Jack Rosenberg to pay for actually writing, photographing for, and running the Tig blog (owned by Frim Fram Inc, of which MM was President, and Genow and Meyer officers - it was re-registered in conveniently secretive Delaware in Dec 2019).

She also had a financial relationship with Soho House and Markus Anderson that must have been of benefit to someone, although I have no idea how the money and/or financial advantage flowed in these cases, and for what or why.

martinisforeveryone · 28/03/2025 20:24

The thing about the money is that when Harry was a close and working member of the RF, money was pretty much irrelevant, but they had a lifestyle that money couldn't really buy because of their position in worldwide society. What they need and want now is Bill Gates type of money and recognition and for an ex high profile royal and actress who was the BBQ ad girl, a suitcase girl and then am actor in Suits, that ain't ever going to happen, no matter how much fruit spread she hawks. Their lifestyle is extremely expensive and they're the poor relations of the Serena Williams circle, which isn't going to sit well. I think they've both had a harsh wake up call and it doesn't help at all that most things that get involved with perform so poorly or fail.

glitterturd · 29/03/2025 12:06

Picking up on this one as other thread is full do we know anything about this factory made spread?

glitterturd · 29/03/2025 12:07

Sorry to clarify I mean location etc ?

ThePoshUns · 29/03/2025 13:04

No but it looks absolutely generic.
probably make supermarket jams in the same production line then label it up after.

AtIusvue · 31/03/2025 16:36

As ever launches this week.

So you can experience Meghan reminiscing eating crepes? Weird

Meghan’s show IS something new and different.
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BelfastBug · 31/03/2025 16:41

Is that online or on the stands in the NF store in the two shopping malls?

AtIusvue · 31/03/2025 16:48

Not sure at all!

But she launches the podcast on the 8th so will be a couple of days before that probably.

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glitterturd · 31/03/2025 16:50

She's remembering her pre Harry days 😂

glitterturd · 31/03/2025 16:51

What a flipping fuss about tea and stuff. These things are bog standard in the uk.

AtIusvue · 31/03/2025 16:51

glitterturd · 31/03/2025 16:50

She's remembering her pre Harry days 😂

I have a feeling she may be manifesting her post-Harry days soon.

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TheNinkyNonkyIsATardis · 31/03/2025 16:53

About 50% of the text is just about the crepes?

That's such a weird choice, it's like she drifted off mid conversation.

DelectableMe · 31/03/2025 17:21

marcopront · 26/03/2025 15:36

If I was trying to avoid the press I wouldn’t make a Netflix show.

Nor publish a very detailed autobiography and do various interviews. Not the lifestyle of someone who wishes to live quietly or out of the press 😉

Serenster · 31/03/2025 17:32

TheNinkyNonkyIsATardis · 31/03/2025 16:53

About 50% of the text is just about the crepes?

That's such a weird choice, it's like she drifted off mid conversation.

I agree - but there is more text. See below. It’s extraordinary.

Meghan’s show IS something new and different.
AtIusvue · 31/03/2025 17:37

Remember this pivotal moment with me? Wow! Zero self awareness

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EvelynBeatrice · 31/03/2025 17:38

Well I thoroughly enjoyed it. Background soothing pleasant. Not any chance whatsoever that I would be influenced in any way to purchase anything mentioned but enjoyed it as simple escapist relaxing stuff. Bit like those kids who enjoy watching YouTube vids etc of other kids studying or ‘unboxing’ something!

Serenster · 31/03/2025 17:40

(I honestly think it’s hilarious that she’s having to pivot to “the raspberry spread that started it all”. No Meghan, that was jam. All your friends were proudly showing off their numbered ARO jars and stating that they were so grateful for your jam. “I think we all know, jam is my jam” you told us yourself.

Alas, those pesky laws though. Not only did they scupper ARO, but now you discover legally, it’s not jam and you have to pretend that “raspberry spread has been your jam” all along. Gutting!)

AtIusvue · 31/03/2025 17:43

Serenster · 31/03/2025 17:40

(I honestly think it’s hilarious that she’s having to pivot to “the raspberry spread that started it all”. No Meghan, that was jam. All your friends were proudly showing off their numbered ARO jars and stating that they were so grateful for your jam. “I think we all know, jam is my jam” you told us yourself.

Alas, those pesky laws though. Not only did they scupper ARO, but now you discover legally, it’s not jam and you have to pretend that “raspberry spread has been your jam” all along. Gutting!)

If she’s says it three times. She thinks it’s comes to life:

Sussex, Sussex, Sussex

Spread, Spread, Spread

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DelectableMe · 31/03/2025 17:50

AtIusvue · 31/03/2025 17:37

Remember this pivotal moment with me? Wow! Zero self awareness

😂😂😂

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