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Is there another couple like the Sussexes Part 2

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veraswaistcoat · 05/02/2025 13:30

With this new authentic Insta post where Meghan positions herself as a go between in securing some signed merchandise I think there's still plenty to discuss.
This is a new image. No make up. Carefully edited insta. New lips. Is this influencer territory? Mention of " my husband and l " Echoes of the Queen ?

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DolliDimples · 06/02/2025 13:01

NormaMajors1992coat · 06/02/2025 12:50

That ditsy girl "I just have to quickly tell you something and I'm so excited to share it I can't even wait to put make-up on ohmigosh ohmigosh" stuff doesn't fit at all with the crazy editing though - it's been so carefully produced and all those cuts tweaked to make it look spontaneous to the max. To me it's just an absolute mess visually / editorially. But as a 50-something media professional and cynic, I'm sure I'm not the demographic she's chasing 🤓

What demographic is she chasing and why?

Is the suggestion that shes after a younger demographic - 20s? If so why - what can she monetise from them? If she is doing WLM to sell stuff from (the yet to be set up) ARO - then that does make sense - do ditsy/funky 20 somethings get swayed to part with their cash by aspiring to purchase the lifestyle trinkets of a D-list, has been cable actress? I dont think any of this generation are interested in 'royal' connections.

IAmATorturedPoet · 06/02/2025 13:07

Serenster · 06/02/2025 12:20

Oh gosh, it was a big template on IG in the late teens. Lots of humblebragging and chat about loving junk food and being adorably chaotic and disorganised (whilst also looking slim, beautiful and very polished).

Thanks! Spot the person who had young children in the late teens and spent no time on instagram. 🤣.

The only one I can think of in that bracket was a instagrammer called “The Londoner”. Like that? (If anyone remembers her!)

I don’t remember ‘The Londoner’ but ‘Zoella’ came to mind, if anyone can remember her in her heyday?

NormaMajors1992coat · 06/02/2025 13:17

Serenster · 06/02/2025 12:58

Well yes - self-evidently, in order to cut seamlessly between takes, you need to have done more than one take!

This editing is anything but seamless though, it's nearly all bloody jump cuts for no discernible reason, does my head in! 😑

No doubt it's part of the influencer language but it doesn't seem to make much sense to me in this context. Fair enough if she was reviewing a film or talking about double bass bowing technique or something, and wanted to make it a bit more exciting and keep people engaged visually. But it just reeks of insincerity when it's all about the presenter themselves, and they're supposedly behaving oh so spontaneously in such a contrived bit of video.

smilesy · 06/02/2025 13:23

DolliDimples · 06/02/2025 13:01

What demographic is she chasing and why?

Is the suggestion that shes after a younger demographic - 20s? If so why - what can she monetise from them? If she is doing WLM to sell stuff from (the yet to be set up) ARO - then that does make sense - do ditsy/funky 20 somethings get swayed to part with their cash by aspiring to purchase the lifestyle trinkets of a D-list, has been cable actress? I dont think any of this generation are interested in 'royal' connections.

I was thinking the same thing - who is her target audience and what does she hope to
gain from them? This is why I am more and more persuaded that this is not a thought through strategy but merely a reaction to publicity for other members of the RF

Reetpetitenot · 06/02/2025 13:39

Serenster · 06/02/2025 12:20

Oh gosh, it was a big template on IG in the late teens. Lots of humblebragging and chat about loving junk food and being adorably chaotic and disorganised (whilst also looking slim, beautiful and very polished).

Thanks! Spot the person who had young children in the late teens and spent no time on instagram. 🤣.

The only one I can think of in that bracket was a instagrammer called “The Londoner”. Like that? (If anyone remembers her!)

Whatever happened to The Lomdoner? I think the comparison is very valid.

GiveMeSpanakopita · 06/02/2025 13:46

NormaMajors1992coat · 06/02/2025 13:17

This editing is anything but seamless though, it's nearly all bloody jump cuts for no discernible reason, does my head in! 😑

No doubt it's part of the influencer language but it doesn't seem to make much sense to me in this context. Fair enough if she was reviewing a film or talking about double bass bowing technique or something, and wanted to make it a bit more exciting and keep people engaged visually. But it just reeks of insincerity when it's all about the presenter themselves, and they're supposedly behaving oh so spontaneously in such a contrived bit of video.

The jump cuts are deliberately and are part of the ditsy girl play book, but as a previous poster pointed out, it's an aesthetic which has lost its charm, largely because the seams show too clearly. I'd say it was last a visual in vogue in, say, 2020.

As I say, Meghan is usually about 3 - 5 years behind any given trend, going all the way back to The Tig, which in style and aesthetic was slightly behind its time. I think this outdatedness is partly a function of her age and partly reflective of the fact that she's very risk-averse in her professional choices, seemingly preferring to follow a previously successful trend than be at the cutting edge of her own.

It may also be a function of her Royal status? - in that she may be nervous of being too 'out there', but at the same time not quite brave enough to simply plough her own furrow as Kate does.

FromTheOfficeOfJammyTodger · 06/02/2025 13:48

Honestly, I think her target audience is herself. She's living out a film script (or several) in her head about a girl called Meghan who is all things to all people. She can be stateswoman, business woman, human rights campaigner, boss woman feminist, earth mother, gourmet cook, florist, animal saviour etc etc. In each played out script, she saves the say, gets the guy and the audience gives her a standing ovation. Once the script is acted out, it's discarded and onto the next one, which might be a completely different character to the last. It's all a big fantasy of someone (or many ones) she isn't and doesn't have the wherewithal to be, but she gets to act out being them for about 15 minutes. She's a modern day, Walter Mitty fantasist, with the money and connections to facilitate it.

Atlusvue · 06/02/2025 13:50

I thought it was the most embarrassing thing she’s done to date. Exposing her as not having clue what to do in the influencer world and being woefully out of date.

When she was last on Insta, Tik Tok didn’t exist. But now you have influencers who have never even needed an insta or an YouTube account. Tik Tok has shaped the way all the platforms deliver content now (YouTube introduced shorts etc). It’s also shaped the way influencers talk to their audience. Most TikTok videos are 30/40 secs long and the aim is for them to go viral. The influencer has to get the full arc of the story in such a small time frame, that the only way that this is possible, is for it to be heavily cut and spliced together. This necessity has had the result of creating a completely new style of delivery.

BUT, and this is where Meghan goes embarrassingly wrong, 20 something influencers use a very stilted deadpan expression. Why? Because they understand when you are making a short video with 15/20 cuts you have to remain in a static position for most of it and your expressions need to remain stable. Often the overlay of voice can convey excitement, sadness etc but not the actual video.
If you don’t use this approach, then you’ll tend to look utterly mad. Meghan came across as manic because she confused the personable insta reaction style videos with the Tik Tok edits. So there’s lots of facial expressions, changes in tone and cadence, hands moving all over the place. This is fine if she shot the 90sec video with minimal edits, but she didn’t, she used over 20 cuts. It’s all over the place. This confused take on what she thinks young influencers do now, is why she looks somewhat unhinged on her video.

It shows you she doesn’t know what the hell she is doing and there clearly aren’t young members in her social media team advising her. The result. You cringe when you watch a 40 something woman try and compete with 20 something influencers. Just don’t.

NotaRealHousewife · 06/02/2025 13:58

So she recorded and posted the video before she contacted the family? Would your first priority not be letting the family/girl know?

NormaMajors1992coat · 06/02/2025 14:02

Yes clearly the jump cuts are deliberate, I wasn't imagining she didn't notice 😂

My point is that this kind of editing has its place and works really well if used in the right context, where the focus is on making something fun for the viewer, whether that's an unboxing or a make-up tutorial. Or when it's understood that there will be edits, because it's a shortened version of a story, like a chicken shop date or a day in the life of my cat or whatever.

But here the editorial style and the content clash horribly imo because it's all about Meghan being so excitable and spontaneous, when it's clear she has very deliberately and with zero excitement or spontaneity sat down and examined every one of those 16 cuts to make sure it's in the right place. It's one of the reasons (along with the overacting, the embroidered top, the moving of the hair and some of the things she says) why it seems so off and inauthentic I think.

Mightymoog · 06/02/2025 14:10

IAmATorturedPoet · 06/02/2025 13:07

I don’t remember ‘The Londoner’ but ‘Zoella’ came to mind, if anyone can remember her in her heyday?

I remember Zoella's advent calendar. that was hilarious

Herbologistinwaiting · 06/02/2025 14:23

FromTheOfficeOfJammyTodger · 06/02/2025 13:48

Honestly, I think her target audience is herself. She's living out a film script (or several) in her head about a girl called Meghan who is all things to all people. She can be stateswoman, business woman, human rights campaigner, boss woman feminist, earth mother, gourmet cook, florist, animal saviour etc etc. In each played out script, she saves the say, gets the guy and the audience gives her a standing ovation. Once the script is acted out, it's discarded and onto the next one, which might be a completely different character to the last. It's all a big fantasy of someone (or many ones) she isn't and doesn't have the wherewithal to be, but she gets to act out being them for about 15 minutes. She's a modern day, Walter Mitty fantasist, with the money and connections to facilitate it.

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I think this is very perceptive and accurate. So is Harry a bit part player in her drama then?

Amisillyornot · 06/02/2025 14:26

JSMill · 05/02/2025 14:24

She did a kind and thoughtful thing for sure. However lots of people (normal and celebrities) do these things all the time and don't feel the need to tell others about it. My dh recently managed to get a shirt signed by Mo Salah using a contact of his to cheer up the son of a friend who is having a crap time at the moment. He didn't post it on social media and he was embarrassed when the boy kept thanking him. He just wanted to do a good thing.
M could have easily just passed the things along and thanked the people who made it possible privately.

not the point of the thread but i WANT a Mo Salah shirt! YNWA!😁

Serenster · 06/02/2025 14:44

NotaRealHousewife · 06/02/2025 13:58

So she recorded and posted the video before she contacted the family? Would your first priority not be letting the family/girl know?

I wouldn’t assume that to be honest - likely the reel was only posted after the family had been told. Obviously it suggests it’s all happening right now, but that’s often not the case in reality when people are sharing content online. The editing will have taken a fair while just for starters!

Andylion · 06/02/2025 15:06

IAmATorturedPoet · 06/02/2025 10:54

She certainly came across as very excitable, almost like she was the 15 year old girl receiving the gift. All a bit odd for a woman in her 40’s 🤷‍♀️

I’m in my 50s. I can just about imagine myself being really excited about a package for but only for five seconds, and, importantly, only with my very close friends.

I think this squealing excitement, so close to the camera is a way IG folk try to create a pseudo intimate relationship with their followers.

FromTheOfficeOfJammyTodger · 06/02/2025 15:08

Herbologistinwaiting · 06/02/2025 14:23

I think this is very perceptive and accurate. So is Harry a bit part player in her drama then?

Well she's always the main character! I imagine Harry is leading man in some scenarios where it's useful (eg in the role of polo socialite), male side kick in other scenarios (that bloke who trails behind her on "tour")and, in some instances, written out of the script altogether!

GiveMeSpanakopita · 06/02/2025 15:17

Herbologistinwaiting · 06/02/2025 14:23

I think this is very perceptive and accurate. So is Harry a bit part player in her drama then?

I'm not convinced she has a huge amount to say to him. Couples in which there's a very large differential in intelligence and life experience tend to have less in common for the long haul.

I think they trauma-bonded early on in a sort of folie a deux against the RF and the British media. Also I've always suspected an Oedipal sort of relationship and the Vanity Fair piece confirmed it. But overall Meghan's a lot smarter and more switched on than Harry. She must find his company a bit frustrating.

wordler · 06/02/2025 15:33

GiveMeSpanakopita · 06/02/2025 09:39

I'm gonna buck the trend - as I don't usually think Meghan is especially good at PR - and say that I think the video was kind of sweet. It was a nice thing of her to do, albeit doing it behind the scenes and not publicising it might have been a better way of going about it.

But I appreciate she needs good PR right now and the video itself is quite well done in that it does at first blush appear unrehearsed and candid (it's not; it has at least 3 edit breaks) and she said her lines well. As the first proper piece of work Three Gates has done with her it's not bad and points towards a more intimate and candid style of PR going forward.

I half agree - she’s very personable on camera. If she’d done this kind of thing earlier - and aimed it at engagement and warmth - especially during Covid - she’d be in a much better position with her PR.

But she’s doing it now after being widely criticized for disaster tourism. She has some sort of blindness to reading the room.

ERthree · 06/02/2025 15:40

Member of the British Royal Family to Instagram Desperado Faker in a few short years, her Mother must be proud.

NotaRealHousewife · 06/02/2025 15:50

@Serenster she said I'm off to email the mother

Baital · 06/02/2025 15:59

Andylion · 06/02/2025 15:06

I’m in my 50s. I can just about imagine myself being really excited about a package for but only for five seconds, and, importantly, only with my very close friends.

I think this squealing excitement, so close to the camera is a way IG folk try to create a pseudo intimate relationship with their followers.

I got quite excited about a delivery today - some binding for a blanket I am making. I even went as far as remarking to the dog "it's arrived at last".

Princessconsuelabananahammock9 · 06/02/2025 16:13

jeffgoldblum · 06/02/2025 11:23

@PigglyWigglyOhYeah , that's because we are not the target audience, in my opinion, Meghan has decided to go with this route to garner support from a different demographic, younger people, instagram followers, maybe she's finally got the hint ?

Meghan isn’t cool enough for the younger demographic. They aren’t interested.

NotaRealHousewife · 06/02/2025 16:23

@Baital Did the dog share your excitement? 🤣

Onlyonekenobe · 06/02/2025 16:23

StartupRepair · 05/02/2025 23:08

I don't hate her. I am fascinated by her consistent underestimation of the public's ability to discern manipulation and bullshit. She seems to have a very shallow and simplistic understanding of what makes people tick. Her email talking about how to 'tug at people's heartstrings ' was really revealing. Her need to be admired is palpable and makes all her actions seem vacuous and inauthentic.
I hope they are happy as no one wants to see DC in the middle of a breakup.

Two completely unrelated points:

I don't think she wants to be admired as much as she wants to be envied. The kind of person who has friends who say she changes the very molecules in the air around her by her presence (Abigail Spencer, only a tiny bit paraphrased - I'm assuming she wasn't high or drunk when she said this!), is the kind of person whose friendships are cliquey, conspiratorial, transactional, clubby, fabulous, extra, competitive, highly hypocritical and disposable when no longer able to support the mirage. Anyone who's attended a cliquey girls' private school recognises the type at 20 paces. That kind of girl was one who (ime) needed to be envied to feel like she mattered/existed. And that was because (ime) her home life was a sorry, hollow life of absent parents or arguing parents or self-absorbed parents or unhapppily divorced parents. Sound familiar? Obviously these girls grow into women, who mature and soften and acquire wisdom and experience, but some of the arrested development you see with Meghan totally chimes with an MO that is rooted in this sort of dynamic and which doesn't move on.

Secondly, keeping their children private has been the one thing that I've admired this couple for, and a bar below which I hope they won't descend, especially after all the griping Harry has indulged in. If they take them to Invictus, it's show over. Nobody, literally nobody in the world they've chosen to inhabit and make a living in, does that - the publicity is just too damaging for small children (as Harry knows and as William and Catherine have managed seemingly well thus far).

Lifestooshort71 · 06/02/2025 16:31

NotaRealHousewife · 06/02/2025 15:50

@Serenster she said I'm off to email the mother

But we don't know what the time lag was between filming and posting - time to let the family know probably?

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