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Harry v NGN 2

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mainecooncatonahottinroof · 23/01/2025 00:40

I don't think we're done talking - and I never start threads!

As you were!

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BigWillyLittleTodger · 27/01/2025 17:42

JoyousGreyOrca · 27/01/2025 17:36

No. You simply misread my comment.
I stated that people who support the Royal Family previously said on here that they talk about MN Royal threads and posters in a facebook group.
I said NOTHING about who it was set up by, what it was called, its purpose, who were members. Because guess what? I do not know the answers,

I said this in response to a ridiculous claim of co-ordinated Sussex supporter raids on this board.

The implication was there and it’s not just me who thought that. Why do you think the Sussex Squad raiding this board is a ridiculous claim as apparently you have never heard of them?

Andtheweaselgoespop56 · 27/01/2025 17:42

JoyousGreyOrca · 27/01/2025 17:36

No. You simply misread my comment.
I stated that people who support the Royal Family previously said on here that they talk about MN Royal threads and posters in a facebook group.
I said NOTHING about who it was set up by, what it was called, its purpose, who were members. Because guess what? I do not know the answers,

I said this in response to a ridiculous claim of co-ordinated Sussex supporter raids on this board.

That explains it. Thank you Orca

And since then, many posters have mentioned lots of discussions about Mumsnet threads off-site, so I don’t see why the Facebook one is beyond the realms of possibility?

I don’t expect BigWillyLittleTodger
to concede their mistake so I am off to feed the cat.

BigWillyLittleTodger · 27/01/2025 17:49

Andtheweaselgoespop56 · 27/01/2025 17:38

You haven’t driven me off. I’ve got other stuff to do which is more pleasant.

I conceded the Facebook point twice in two posts directly to you!

I said I usually found Orca’s posts to be genuine if you didn’t see the first one?

In my second point to you I said I should have added “if it exists” to my point.

And after that, and loads of posts about keeping things civil on this thread and on this board, you still found it necessary to come back and post in a rude way?

Why does being civil only have to apply to Republicans?

I actually put a smile on the end of my post to indicate a joke that I wasn’t being rude!

If that constitutes being passive agressieve in your book then that’s not my problem.

Sorry but your posts come across as consistently rude and not just tonight.

I find your posts consistently passive aggressive, you find my posts rude, which like you have said to me, isn’t my problem.

IAmATorturedPoet · 27/01/2025 17:53

JoyousGreyOrca · 27/01/2025 17:38

I do not have anything mixed up. It was some very prolific Royal supporters.
I did not read the other incident though you are talking about.

I post quite a bit on the RF board and I have never seen a RF Facebook page mentioned.
How far back are we talking?

myrtleWilson · 27/01/2025 17:56

If that post was made on the RF board orca it must have been deleted as it doesn’t exist now. Not sure why it would have been deleted as on the face of it, it wouldn’t have broken but who knows!. Was it FB or was it that weird short lived MN spin-off/copycat page, was it Mumchat or something? I do recall a bit of a drama about that and the RF board..

There was a conversation about whether the existence of a FB page titled Royal Purple (or similar) was linked to posters on here who had purple in their names.

Serenster · 27/01/2025 17:56

Advanced Search shows that there are very few posts with both words “Facebook” and “group” in this topic, and none of them are posters confessing to having one!

There are a few allegations that such a group existed around the time of the “numbered threads” and when a rival forum called Net Mums was set up - which is before my time, and from previous comments is I gather around the time Harry and Meghan got married I think, so seven years ago?

It was also alleged, but denied, that one existed because there was a Facebook group called “Royal Purple” (d’uh…) and that was similar to various usernames at the time.

That’s all I could find.

Serenster · 27/01/2025 17:58

Cross-posted, myrtleWilson! We seem to have discovered the same information though. 😀

Rhaidimiddim · 27/01/2025 18:00

One of the things the pro-H&M posters used to do regularly, when they were in full speight with lots of new-name posters on the case, was to announce when they were leaving the thread.

MrsLeonFarrell · 27/01/2025 18:00

I haven't been here as long as many of you. In that time though there have definitely been posts that indicate people talk off board about Royal family posts. I'm not sure why that is surprising though, isn't that how social media works these days? I always assume that what I say here could be posted elsewhere and dissected, mostly because I've seen it happen when I was on twitter over and over again in various different contexts with various social media outlets (not to me personally). I don't think what I post is that interesting but if someone wants to pull it apart elsewhere that's up to them.

I have to disagree with a poster about whether the Squad coordinate. I used to see them on twitter (I saw both them and Kates Rangers) discussing how to respond to things and there are definitely patterns of times of posting and set phrases here from time to time. It's not a new thing though, from what I hear Taylor Swift fans can be similar, or Cumberbitches or whatever Tom Hiddlestons fans call themselves etc etc. It's online fandom.

WatchOutMissMarpleIsAbout · 27/01/2025 18:02

I’m clearly an innocent when it comes to other SM sites as I would have considered it bad form to talk about people on a different platform. Every day is a school day as they say.

@Extiainoiapeial i think it was you (hopefully I haven’t got my threads mixed up), that said it would take at least a decade, to start the mechanism for a republic and I agree, I can’t really see a political party even thinking of doing so.

myrtleWilson · 27/01/2025 18:04
Walk Away The West Wing GIF by Max

There was also an allegation of a secret FB full of royalists to coordinate “attack lines” but that was from a poster who was affronted that several other posters were calling out her casual deployment of Kate having an eating disorder because she had the temerity to eat dessert and be slim (Kate at the rave)

Anyway all this talk of secret FB reminds me of The West Wing and Josh and the secret plan to fight inflation

NotaRealHousewife · 27/01/2025 18:06

I admire their commitment, I really couldn't be arsed spending my time discussing threads

wordler · 27/01/2025 18:19

Well I just fell down a bit of a rabbit hole on Reddit where lots of people seem to gather to discuss Mumsnet posts - mainly so that they can say stuff about posters or threads that would get them deleted on MN - so troll hunting TAAT etc

The Redditers commenting on the royal family boards are very much republicans or anti monarchy and very critical of anyone posting pro royal family content. Seems to be mainly the same few posters who are particularly critical and @Serenster I’m not sure whose feelings you hurt here because they are MAD about you! Which is peculiar because you are one of the main posters who never makes things personal or attacks people on here, which is what they are claiming!

No mention yet of me 😥- better up my game!

Likewhatever · 27/01/2025 18:21

I said this in response to a ridiculous claim of co-ordinated Sussex supporter raids on this board.

You seem very certain of the motives of “Sussex supporter” posters.

Atlasvue · 27/01/2025 18:30

See yet another poster derailing this thread.

Why can’t posters show some respect. Start your own threads. You want to talk about republicanism go ahead, you want to talk about Meghan being the subject of the racist British press, knock yourself out. Start a thread with that title.

However, it’s bad form to derail yet another thread just to be contrary and start arguments with posters. Constantly quoting and looking for attention.

Talk about what you want, but stick to the topic or create your own thread.

Baital · 27/01/2025 18:32

wordler · 27/01/2025 18:19

Well I just fell down a bit of a rabbit hole on Reddit where lots of people seem to gather to discuss Mumsnet posts - mainly so that they can say stuff about posters or threads that would get them deleted on MN - so troll hunting TAAT etc

The Redditers commenting on the royal family boards are very much republicans or anti monarchy and very critical of anyone posting pro royal family content. Seems to be mainly the same few posters who are particularly critical and @Serenster I’m not sure whose feelings you hurt here because they are MAD about you! Which is peculiar because you are one of the main posters who never makes things personal or attacks people on here, which is what they are claiming!

No mention yet of me 😥- better up my game!

Me too! Blimey... some people take MN very seriously 😂

Congratulations @serenster on having an impact!

Note to self, must try harder..

veraswaistcoat · 27/01/2025 18:33

JoyousGreyOrca · 27/01/2025 15:39

I do not think there was ever an organised group of Sussex supporters.
I did once see supporters of the Royal Family admit they are all on a facebook group together and discuss threads here.

Come on now 😂. I'm never sure if you (as in me and others ) are allowed to name other SM groups so I don't but I do know where I can go ON MN to read certain posters discussing the RF threads. I'm not allowed to link to other posts though.
It happens .
It's there in black and white to see.

I'm not saying you are on there. I don't have a paid sub to search out things.

NotaRealHousewife · 27/01/2025 18:36

I think the Facebook group issue is a good example of how things deteriorate on here. Someone mentions something and instead of that point being debated it's "what about" it's infuriating and gets people backs up. It comes across as an attempt to point score rather than deal with the issue at hand

pelargoniums · 27/01/2025 18:40

Vaguely on topic, I imagine a party could start the mechanism to shut down the monarchy if the King/William/the next heir (I can never get the Cambridge kids straight) did something so wildly egregious that public outcry demanded it – sort of the equivalent of an entire tabloid newspaper closing down after a public enquiry. Unfortunately I think Charles is quite dull as far as outcry-provoking behaviour goes. He married his worst scandal.

Alternatively it would be something stupid, a Brexit referendum equivalent – some politician throws us republicans a bone, promising a referendum on the royals as a sop, but we win by a whisker…

wordler · 27/01/2025 18:47

@pelargoniums I think the likelihood of a British politician offering a referendum on anything at all in the future is very unlikely!

I agree - a direct heir being someone unpalatable would be the fastest way to encourage more republican sentiment.

JoyousGreyOrca · 27/01/2025 18:55

veraswaistcoat · 27/01/2025 18:33

Come on now 😂. I'm never sure if you (as in me and others ) are allowed to name other SM groups so I don't but I do know where I can go ON MN to read certain posters discussing the RF threads. I'm not allowed to link to other posts though.
It happens .
It's there in black and white to see.

I'm not saying you are on there. I don't have a paid sub to search out things.

I am not in there. I do not even know what you are talking about

MissRoseDurward · 27/01/2025 19:01

Before you can take any steps to abolish the monarchy, you have to decide what you're going to put in its place.

You'd be wiping out more than a thousand years of constitutional development.

All very well to say we'll have an elected HoS.

Who will be eligible to stand? What will the voting method be - FPTP or something else? How long will a term of office be? How many terms of office? What powers will s/he have? Purely ceremonial or a real check on the powers of the government? Political or non-political? How do you get rid of an elected HoS mid-term?

What about the Commonwealth countries that still have a monarchy, or want to retain the monarch as Head of the Commonwealth?

Then you've got to get all of that through Parliament.

Likewhatever · 27/01/2025 19:08

Then there’s the churn of Heads of State, all of them needing lifelong pensions and security. And the cost of electing them in the first place.

veraswaistcoat · 27/01/2025 19:08

@JoyousGreyOrca I think you were the person who touted that there was a FB group with royalists on and it was discussed on MN ? I'm catching up here with all the posts. I cannot recall anything of the sort or of a discussion but you seemed to say so that it did indeed exist. Apologies if I got the wrong impression.

What I'm saying to you is that there IS discussion by Sussex supporters here on MN where they talk about the Royal boards and they discuss their group. Maybe you got the wrong end of the stick?

veraswaistcoat · 27/01/2025 19:11

JoyousGreyOrca · 27/01/2025 16:11

@Andtheweaselgoespop56 It may have been a group for people who support the Royal family in general rather than one set up in response to MN. But they did confirm they talked about MN threads and posters on there

Just checked and you did say this. Maybe you got the wrong end of the stick?