Harry v NGN 2

[mainecooncatonahottinroof]

I don't think we're done talking - and I never start threads!

As you were!

It’s not ganging up it’s challenging statements that are factually incorrect.

What, do you think there's some sort of 'conspiracy' going on 😂?

I can assure you that there is not. Just that very few people agree with your stance!

@mainecooncatonahottinroof Loads and loads of snarky nasty comments aimed at me and posts claiming I said things that I did not. Again and again.

There isn't any ganging up and there isn't aggression

Do you know what a euphemism is?

He said he was the only one who could fight on - are you denying that?!

Can you explain what he meant by: one of the main reasons for seeing this through is accountability because I'm the last person that can actually achieve that. And also closure for these 1300 people and their families.

Has he achieved accountability and closure for the 1300 via the NGN statement that was issued?

Yes, it seems to be working.

He seems to be finding his feet, seems sincere enough about the things he wants to do with the rest of his life, seems to have a decent marriage, healthily children and so on.

Not the complete train wreak I would have anticipated.

Although he does have Trump and a dangerous administration now.

Posters are pulling you up on your actual comments.

There are more posters here who disagree with you than agree with you. That's the nature of the beast!

He said this because others had to drop out because of finances. That is a fact. Hugh Grant publicly apologised to Harry for having to drop out.

"Finding his feet" - doing what?

"Is this the five- minute argument or the full half- hour?"

If he could not get his day in court because of the economic clout of the other side - that should worry you.

Because that can to all of us and happens much more that it should.

@andIsaid The finances haven't changed, Harry was quite clear that he was taking it to court and he was the only one that could do it.

Are you saying for the last few years Harry wasn't aware of the cost or the wealth of nGN?

Maybe.

But it certainly helped me understand my grief for my dad a lot better.

It certainly helps most Vets - British or not.

He had themes in the book, the biggest of which was was the process of trauma.

It seems that you have had a lucky life and escaped that kind of thing. I don't think you are the target.

Delighted that he bloodied the nose of the Sun et al. It was obvious in 2011(was it?) that they were guilty but with friends in high places.

Yes, and he said that he was the only one who could fight on and that he was doing it for everyone else who couldn't.

And then he didn't.

Nobody is disputing the validity of his settling of the case, but it was his setting himself up as some sort of hero who was going to avenge all the claimants' wrongs, and then caving at the 11th hour, that people have an issue with!

He should have known that he was also likely to have to drop out because of finances!

It actually makes me sick that big, corrupt corporations have this power over individuals. It's all kinds of wrong that they are in a position where they can do this, and walk all over the ordinary person. But just think how all those claimants must feel, who didn't have the money to throw at it and were forced to settle, must feel now that Harry, their last hope for justice, has also thrown in the towel?

In the words of our late Queen..."oh RILLY"

You do understand that a massive settlement was offered at the last minute and if Harry turned that down he was liable for all legal costs even if he won?

And we do not know how much was offered. What if it was 50 million? Could he really turn that down? Especially given the public apology.

I can't speak for others but it doesn't worry me. At least not in this context.

This is a civil case. The only possible outcome is financial. If that outcome can be arranged without burdening the judicial system with lengthy, complex trials then it should be done if at all possible.

It's not about 'getting your day in court'. As I said above, Harry was reprimanded by the judge for trying to turn a civil case into an 'inquiry.' People with too much time and money on their hands wasting public resources is also an issue.

No one knows if it was a massive settlement do you understand that?

Once again was he not aware of costs until a couple of days ago?

This is one point where I wholeheartedly agree with you. I've been there.

Harry is only liable for both sides costs if he wins in court, if the settlement offered is more than the legal costs and any payment he could be awarded by court. This means it would have to be a massive settlement.

I'm glad if the book had some relevance to you.

I don't think it did Harry personally any favours, and I think he will regret writing it when his children come to an age where they can read it.

I wouldn't say I've had a lucky life. Just different.

Yes, he could really turn it down. The 2 other litigants in the Mirror case turned it down. It didn't work out for them financially as they didn't beat the Part 36 and limitation issue respectively. But both of them held the Mirrow accountable and were found, by a judge, to have been the victims of illegal activity by the Mirror.

Basically, all you are saying is that Harry's principles went out the window for a large amount of cash.

@JoyousGreyOrca I'll ask you again, was Harry only aware of the cost within the last couple of days?

Did he or did he not repeatedly say that he wanted it to go to trial?

I don't see that as a massive settlement