Harry v. NGN

[Atlasvue]

Starting a thread for Tuesday.
This BBC article covers the basics. This is the last line ….
’Tuesday really is the beginning of the end. And someone is going to lose - and lose big.’

I have a feeling, that Harry won’t win but he just wants to use the public setting to air his grievances. A therapy session would have worked out much cheaper.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c2l00xkgwnyo

Spectator article:

https://archive.ph/c9qci#selection-1793.208-1807.10

I’m sure they just did. I’ll replay it if I can bbc news.

Both sides will say they won.

It's a distraction from meghans bullying articles though! , and the disaster tourists label , not much footfall about those .

Both sides always claim victory in any case like this. I'm sure the truth is that they have both got at least part of what they wanted otherwise they wouldn't have settled

Exactly.

As I said above, many billable hours will have gone into haggling over the details, in order to arrive at a settlement where both sides could claim victory.

In essence, it's much the same as any civil settlement. One party receives a financial pay off while the other avoids any admission of guilt. Both parties avoid an expensive, time consuming and possibly embarrassing trial. That's exactly how out of court settlements are supposed to work, and the option was available to Harry all along.

I tried to get photos of what they were saying but failed miserably. Basically it’s a positive for both sides.

So, on X they’re saying that the settlement is £10m and after taxes it’s £5m. But Harry’s legal costs are over £7m so H is out of pocket by £2m. Just when he was expecting £50m.

Hey, it’s on social media. Don’t blame me the messenger.

You are just displaying wilful ignorance. The dogs on the street already knew that fgs!

Nobody senior whatsoever in NGN "held to account". Got off scot-free, again.

A settlement was an eminently sensible outcome for both parties. However, it was Harry who shot his mouth off and insisted he was seeing it through to the bitter end.

He did not, and he will have to live with that.

I'm not a tax lawyer (although four members of my family are) or British, so I'm no expert, but in the US, settlements for punitive damages are taxable. If Harry is domiciled in the US (which, let's face it, he is, but perhaps his lawyers and accountants argue otherwise) then yes, he would pay taxes on it.

After paying his legal fees and the taxes, I can't imagine there will be much left over. But at least he slayed those dragons! (Oh, wait...)

The article has a lovely photo of the person who absolutely did win - David Sherborne.

Nope, just using her brain!!

Ouch !

Quite scathing.

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This is entirely wrong.
There are no taxes on damages of this nature.
NGN has also agreed to pay Harry’s costs.
NGN settled with Hugh Grant for £10m so Harry’s settlement will certainly be much larger.
NGN rolled over every which way - admitted criminal wrongdoing and in doing so has admitted lying to parliament, the Court and the Leveson inquiry, apologised to Harry, apologised re Diana, did not get an NDA off Harry which is almost unheard of in settlements of this nature, appears to have agreed to strip the Sun website of all the lying and bullying articles they have written about Meghan over the years which have now vanished...

Harry is the winner. Anyone who says otherwise is a fool or a murdoch apologist.

From The Spectator:

"Harry’s decision to accept the settlement may have robbed the prurient of the chance to see him take his stand in this case, but it has also proved that, in the end, he lacked the courage of his convictions. It may be a victory for him, and no doubt will be treated as such in his triumphant statements, but it has also seemingly confirmed, if we were ever in doubt, that, for Harry, money, not principles, speaks loudest."

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'Harry is the winner. Anyone who says otherwise is a fool or a murdoch apologist'

Harry settled. He was all hot air about accountability not money. I'm neither a fool nor a murdoch apologist.

Look at my BBC quote

@Delphigirl said " [NGN] ....appears to have agreed to strip the Sun website of all the lying and bullying articles they have written about Meghan over the years which have now vanished..."

That's interesting. So far from seeing it through in order to get justice for other hacking victims, he's done a deal on a non hacking matter to benefit his wife. Wasn't he accusing William of doing some sort of "secret" mutually beneficial deal with NGN when he settled? Doesn't that make Harry a bif hypocrite for doing the same?

Did not get an NDA off Harry which is almost unheard of in settlements of this nature,

Of course there are confidentiality provisions in the settlement agreement. We know this because neither side has said how much was paid. They could never keep the fact of the settlement confidential as they had to inform the court of it, which is public.

How do you know that NGN offered to pay Harry's legal fees? These agreements are confidential so you are just repeating unsubstantiated rumour.

Similar with Hugh Grant. He won't have been at liberty to disclose how much he received.

I'm sure Harry got a very significant sum but anyone claiming to know how much he got is making things up. And anyway, it wasn't about the money for him, was it?

And as been said repeatedly NGN did not admit to 'criminal wrongdoing'.

Hugh grant didn't get 10million ! , that was how much it would have cost him in fees if he hadn't settled.
He hasn't revealed how much he received as it's private and not supposed to be revealed outside of the court and lawyers.

Per the Daily Mail (make of that what you will), Harry's legal costs will come out of the settlement. "It is understood Harry's payout is in excess of £10million, but he will have to use the ‘majority’ of this sum to pay his lawyers’ fees. "

Also, in the US, settlements from punitive damages are taxable. (Settlements for, as an example, medical damages are not taxable.) Is that not the case in the UK?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14312499/Duke-Sussex-settles-High-Court-claim-against-News-Group-Newspapers.html

Do you have any concept of how the law works?

A settlement is NOT a 'win' for either party!!! The clue is in the name.

And if you ask me, NGN executives have got away with it yet again, for what is probably chickenfeed to the likes of Murdoch!