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Selfies with Charlotte

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TheRealGossipGirl · 27/12/2024 07:52

This morning, I came across a video on TikTok from Sandringham this weekend where Princess Charlotte was asked for a selfie by a woman in the crowd, and she agreed. Then, another woman asked for one, and Charlotte did the same.

I find it so strange that a 9-year-old girl is being asked for selfies by fully grown adults. I get that she’s royal, and for some people, this might be a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to see her in person, but still, it feels a bit odd, right? What do you think?

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FeegleFrenzy · 28/12/2024 11:39

Notachristmaself · 28/12/2024 11:19

I would not have been happy with Princess Beatrice parading my son through that circus Why was she not with her parents instead of her uncle?

I assume the boys father is ok with it 🤷🏻‍♀️

must admit it’s a bit odd she spends Xmas day with her uncle and not her parents. Guess her priority is staying as close to the heart of the RF as possible. I get that maybe seeing all your cousins is more fun though, big family gathering, etc. I couldn’t have gone if my dad was banished though. Or maybe he came via the back door in time for lunch 😁

MrsLeonFarrell · 28/12/2024 11:44

So apparently they can keep the chocolates and small gifts under £150 (read an article about it this morning that came up on Google, obviously lots of conversation about it). I expect they share it all with the other children when they get back. I thought it would have to be passed on but glad it isn't wasted.

Flowers are sent to local old people's homes.

Serenster · 28/12/2024 11:45

I too wondered why Beatrice was at Sandringham rather than Windsor. But it may well be true that initially she’d planned to be overseas with her husband’s family, but had then been advised not to fly. If she’d then changed their plans to be in Norfolk (which could well have involved handover arrangements with her stepson’s mother?) I can see that pivoting again at short notice to travel to Windsor instead could well have been too much effort when heavily pregnant (I would have had sympathy!).

Extiainoiapeial · 28/12/2024 11:47

upinaballoon · 28/12/2024 11:04

We hope the security boys would find it quickly. Unless this year has been different, people will have had bag checks and possibly been frisked at the gate, before being allowed into the field outside the church. You can't just stroll through any old how.

Is that correct? It's just I've read on here posters who say their relations went or they went, they never mentioned security checks. Do they do that for those that camp overnight too?
Good if so.

It's become a circus and is not now just the king and Queen and heir going to church... everyone and his brother were there, about 50 of dim and distant relations of royals! All too much.

Serenster · 28/12/2024 12:11

It's become a circus and is not now just the king and Queen and heir going to church... everyone and his brother were there, about 50 of dim and distant relations of royals!

Since QEII started spending Christmas at Sandringham, some 40 years or so ago now, there’s always been a large number of the family attending church at on Christmas Day. And crowds to watch them. Here’s a couple of pictures from the 1980s by way of comparison.

Selfies with Charlotte
Selfies with Charlotte
Extiainoiapeial · 28/12/2024 12:16

Too many of them!

Serenster · 28/12/2024 12:26

Extiainoiapeial · 28/12/2024 12:16

Too many of them!

It’s a family. If they get together for a family Christmas gathering, guess what, the whole family is invited….

Extiainoiapeial · 28/12/2024 12:52

Serenster · 28/12/2024 12:26

It’s a family. If they get together for a family Christmas gathering, guess what, the whole family is invited….

Yes, and they wouldn't want to miss out on a pic in the media!

boredashellbythiscrap · 28/12/2024 12:57

Most of them probably don't attend church for the rest of the year but can't miss the photo opportunity.

WanderfulTonight · 28/12/2024 13:03

upinaballoon · 28/12/2024 10:56

Are you talking about Diana's death? Where, on the day after her death, were poor boys forced to greet members of the public, and by whom?

I certainly remember the hysteria from some members of the public and press and their attitudes resulting in the Queen and Prince Philip coming to London at the end of the week, with the boys, to look at flowers. I don't think anyone was 'forced' and I am weary of the cliche being trotted out, but I certainly think that the pressure that was put on QE2 and PP was a disgrace.

I am inclined to agree with you and others on this thread that the encounters are becoming OTT, but not from all members of the crowd. Don't attribute that behaviour to all of them, please. Some will have only taken a photo, or not even that, and they won't be calling the names of the children. I agree that the toys or sweets or calls for selfies are really too much.

Those boys were rolled out at Church the next day and had to greet members of the public. You should be able to Google the footage. It's awful watching those boys looking very uncomfortable and putting on a brave face while members of the public were wailing in the background. Just awful for those poor boys.

Serenster · 28/12/2024 13:15

WanderfulTonight · 28/12/2024 13:03

Those boys were rolled out at Church the next day and had to greet members of the public. You should be able to Google the footage. It's awful watching those boys looking very uncomfortable and putting on a brave face while members of the public were wailing in the background. Just awful for those poor boys.

There’s a few things being elided here, I think. The whole family in Balmoral went to church as usual on the Sunday morning after finding out that Diana had died, but that was a private service - no meeting members of the public involved.

Later that week, the family including William and Harry went to see the flowers left outside the gates of Balmoral, which was in a public place, but didn’t involve greeting the people there (who were on the other side of the road). In London, the night before the funeral Charles, William and Harry did go and meet people who were outside Kensington Palace.

I think there’s been a lot of discussion about this since, and the decisions that people made, and why they were made. In the face of a hostile press, a pushy government and a large section of the public who had collectively stopped behaving rationally at all, I think it’s fair to say that there are a lot of things that with hindsight people wish had been done differently - William and Harry most of all, I imagine.

Serenster · 28/12/2024 13:21

Also, specifically on the going to church the morning they heard about their mother, in Spare Prince Harry says he doesn’t remember it, and William himself has said publicly he found sanctuary in the service in the midst of his state of shock.

So while it’s probably not a decision many of us would have made in the circumstances, it presumably wasn’t made from a desire to distress her sons, and appears not to have done so in any event.

sammylady37 · 28/12/2024 13:55

Xag · 28/12/2024 10:21

It’s just a speech habit used to distinguish between those who are born princesses (‘blood’ princesses) and those who became princesses by marrying a prince.

No-one, but no-one, thinks there’s a literal difference in the blood. It’s the same line of idiom as ‘blood is thicker than water’ which isn’t literally referring to viscosity but is similarly using ‘blood’ as a metaphor for family

So what do royalists think is so special about them then, that warrants their life of immense privilege?

Needanewname42 · 28/12/2024 14:00

Serenster · 28/12/2024 12:11

It's become a circus and is not now just the king and Queen and heir going to church... everyone and his brother were there, about 50 of dim and distant relations of royals!

Since QEII started spending Christmas at Sandringham, some 40 years or so ago now, there’s always been a large number of the family attending church at on Christmas Day. And crowds to watch them. Here’s a couple of pictures from the 1980s by way of comparison.

I thought it was much longer than 40 years.

I thought her Father did Christmas at Sandringham and died at Sandringham hence HMQ always stayed until after his anniversary in February.

But I could be totally wrong where did they do Christmas before Sandringham? Z

AngryLikeHades · 28/12/2024 14:01

Beechashwillowmaple · 27/12/2024 08:46

I think the whole thing has become really inappropriate. What used to have been a simple stroll to church has turned in to a zoo with the children as the exhibits. I saw them on the news; people were shouting the children's names and screaming like deranged fans. Get a grip fhs. And don't subject children to this nonsense in the first place.

That's terrible!!!! So inappropriate.

Needanewname42 · 28/12/2024 14:10

Serenster · 28/12/2024 13:21

Also, specifically on the going to church the morning they heard about their mother, in Spare Prince Harry says he doesn’t remember it, and William himself has said publicly he found sanctuary in the service in the midst of his state of shock.

So while it’s probably not a decision many of us would have made in the circumstances, it presumably wasn’t made from a desire to distress her sons, and appears not to have done so in any event.

Its probably quite a normal thing to do go to church say some private prayers for their mum.

Extiainoiapeial · 28/12/2024 14:12

It is what it is. But I cannot begin to imagine how awful it would be for the two children to go out and meet strangers on the night before their Mum's funeral. That bit was just awful. We all know what it's like to lose someone precious I'm sure, and certain small acts or words are imprinted on your brain forever. I imagine the boys remember certain words and actions from the public that day, that bit should never have happened. People were clamouring for them, calling out their names whilst sobbing.

I just can't imagine putting a child through that.

ToomanyMilesAway · 28/12/2024 15:27

Maybe some of you who are criticising the Church appearance are under estimating the importance of this evolving younger Royal Family within the UK. The attempts to discredit them in any way 🙄 while some of the same people are desperate to emulate the styles, clothing and jewellery of Meghan Markle.

Notachristmaself · 28/12/2024 15:34

ToomanyMilesAway · 28/12/2024 15:27

Maybe some of you who are criticising the Church appearance are under estimating the importance of this evolving younger Royal Family within the UK. The attempts to discredit them in any way 🙄 while some of the same people are desperate to emulate the styles, clothing and jewellery of Meghan Markle.

How do you know? I think the Royal worship is ridiculous and harmful, and like it or not, Harry and Meghan are part of the Royal Family. Harry is an exact product of his upbringing as a Royal. They can wring their hands as much as they like but they created him, and instead of reflecting on whether their way of doing things is good for them or their children, they are doing the same thing again and again.

ToomanyMilesAway · 28/12/2024 15:37

@Notachristmaself that's why I said " maybe".

ToomanyMilesAway · 28/12/2024 15:42

@Notachristmaself you think it bad but you love to bring up Louis in your posts and in doing so you yourself perpetuate this idea of him being the " naughty one".

Extiainoiapeial · 28/12/2024 15:50

ToomanyMilesAway · 28/12/2024 15:27

Maybe some of you who are criticising the Church appearance are under estimating the importance of this evolving younger Royal Family within the UK. The attempts to discredit them in any way 🙄 while some of the same people are desperate to emulate the styles, clothing and jewellery of Meghan Markle.

What? I'm not desperate to emulate clothing and jewellery of any of them! Not Meghan, not any of those in the Church walk. Not sure what your post has to do with anything connected with Charlotte and selfies, and the strange royal fans camping out overnight!

Serenster · 28/12/2024 15:55

Needanewname42 · 28/12/2024 14:00

I thought it was much longer than 40 years.

I thought her Father did Christmas at Sandringham and died at Sandringham hence HMQ always stayed until after his anniversary in February.

But I could be totally wrong where did they do Christmas before Sandringham? Z

Yes, you are right that the Royal Family have traditionally spent Christmas as Sandringham - George V was there for the Christmas before he died in January 1936, for example, and George VI spent Christmas 1951 there with his family before his death early the next year.

They don’t seem to have had photos to be taken of the family when attending church on Christmas morning, though (or at least if they did, they aren’t easily found now). What you see from those decades are photos of the family members driving into Sandringham in their cars. I suppose I was making the point that it was QEII that started the tradition of the family interacting with the public and it being something covered by the press.

ToomanyMilesAway · 28/12/2024 16:09

@Extiainoiapeial sorry if you are unable to see how the conversation has gone 🤷‍♀️

Notachristmaself · 28/12/2024 16:11

ToomanyMilesAway · 28/12/2024 15:42

@Notachristmaself you think it bad but you love to bring up Louis in your posts and in doing so you yourself perpetuate this idea of him being the " naughty one".

I've brought him up once because I've read many headlines which all consist of ' William tells hilarious anecdote about Louis doing something or other". These have all been since he got headlines for pulling faces in church or some event. This is exactly the narrative they always start. Give out information on the younger kids ( Margaret, Andrew, Harry, often the naughty, cheeky, always up to mischief etc) while keeping the eldest one protected.

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