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Charles cancer update

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PrettyFlyforaMaiTai · 20/12/2024 06:34

Charles’ cancer treatment will continue into next year

”his treatment has been moving in a positive direction and as a managed condition the treatment cycle will continue into next year" according to palace sources.

I don’t mean to be a negative Nelly but this doesn’t seem as positive as they’re trying to make out.

news.sky.com/story/kings-cancer-treatment-will-continue-into-next-year-sky-news-understands-13276684

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SingaporeSlinky · 20/12/2024 09:10

This is the Queen’s death certificate. Can anyone claiming it was reported to be anything else quote a source?

Charles cancer update
ISeriouslyDoubtIt · 20/12/2024 09:11

@EmotionalSupportCuttlefish
You really need to put up some proof of your statements about the queen having had multiple myeloma. No such official statement was ever released so I don't know why you're so confidently stating it as fact when it isn't.

magicalmrmistoffelees · 20/12/2024 09:11

TotallyTwisted · 20/12/2024 08:47

I agree, she looks awful, very haggard.

I reckon I’d look pretty haggard after major surgery, followed by a cancer diagnosis and 6 months of chemotherapy too.

BarbaraHoward · 20/12/2024 09:14

ISeriouslyDoubtIt · 20/12/2024 09:11

@EmotionalSupportCuttlefish
You really need to put up some proof of your statements about the queen having had multiple myeloma. No such official statement was ever released so I don't know why you're so confidently stating it as fact when it isn't.

We don't officially know, but it was being said long before she died and is certainly credible.

BuzzieLittleBee · 20/12/2024 09:15

My dad has a form of leukemia which he's had treatment for on and off for about 8 years now. Some chemo (for months at a time) on hospital, either weekly, fortnightly or monthly, and some tablet-based chemo. He is currently not having any treatment as his platelet levels are OK. His consultant has said that the condition itself 'won't be the thing that finishes you off'! He'll live with it forever, but it's manageable and doesn't impact his life too heavily. He had no side effects from chemo apart from tiredness the next day or so. He is in his 80s, and it was discovered by accident, when he was having blood screening for something else.

So 'ongoing management' could be exactly that, rather than something terminal.

NicNak71 · 20/12/2024 09:17

Firefly1987 · 20/12/2024 08:30

Prostate cancer can be utterly horrific so no it's not a "good" cancer to get, especially if it's been found late. Completely depends on how aggressive it is, but it is not a pleasant thing to die of since it spreads to the bones, presses on the spinal chord, potentially causes paralysis and absolute agony-you get the picture. I'm sorry for the rant but I'm so sick of the downplaying of one of the biggest killers of men in this country. As for King Charles, they specifically stated it wasn't prostate cancer.

I agree completely, my DH died in Oct battling stage 4 prostate cancer, it was horrific. He did not have a peaceful death, he had lost all mobility, the slightest movement in the bed caused him absolute agony. I watched the love of my life go from being a big strong rugby playing man, turn to skin and bone, delirious from the cocktail of drugs being pumped into him via syringe driver. It will haunt me for the rest of my life.

doodleschnoodle · 20/12/2024 09:19

In fairness it's highly likely that by the time you get to your mid-90s you've got cancer somewhere in your body. My grandad died at 94 with prostate cancer and bone cancer but neither were the cause of death or marked as such on death certificate.

doodleschnoodle · 20/12/2024 09:21

It was Boris Johnson who said she had bone cancer in his memoir wasn't it? (QE)

Kitkat1523 · 20/12/2024 09:23

Petrasings · 20/12/2024 07:23

‘Managed ‘ in cancer terms means a terminal diagnosis.

We have been through this three times with our family members, and it was used by all three consultants as a term.

No it doesn’t mean that at all
’terminal cancer’ means end stage…llthat may well be the case for your family….but conversations with 3 consultants doesn’t qualify you to comment and make very misleading statements which could upset and confuse other ( non informed) posters..,,,in medical terms a ‘managed cancer’ will likely be a secondary cancer ( which has spread from the primary site) and therefore not able to treat with curative intent ….instead the cancer is ‘managed’ by treatment, like any other chronic condition…..often people live ( and live well) for many years …..especially in the case of cancers like prostate in older men…..they often die with the cancer but not because of it. Many Breast cancer patients are living well for many years post secondary diagnosis.
think before you post maybe

TheEllisGreyMethod · 20/12/2024 09:23

BuzzieLittleBee · 20/12/2024 09:15

My dad has a form of leukemia which he's had treatment for on and off for about 8 years now. Some chemo (for months at a time) on hospital, either weekly, fortnightly or monthly, and some tablet-based chemo. He is currently not having any treatment as his platelet levels are OK. His consultant has said that the condition itself 'won't be the thing that finishes you off'! He'll live with it forever, but it's manageable and doesn't impact his life too heavily. He had no side effects from chemo apart from tiredness the next day or so. He is in his 80s, and it was discovered by accident, when he was having blood screening for something else.

So 'ongoing management' could be exactly that, rather than something terminal.

I came to say this, a lot of chronic blood cancers would be managed this way but you could expect a good life expectancy even at charles' age with treatment.

Kitkat1523 · 20/12/2024 09:24

doodleschnoodle · 20/12/2024 09:21

It was Boris Johnson who said she had bone cancer in his memoir wasn't it? (QE)

She may have had cancer in her bones but wouldn’t necessarily be bone cancer….far likely to be another cancer which metastasised to the bones.

User54614664 · 20/12/2024 09:26

Doubt it's pancreatic because people usually lose a lot of weight, suffer serious complications and can go downhill fast. Charles has looked healthy the whole year...honestly forgot he was having treatment until it was brought up in the press.

It could be some kind of myeloma. Lots of elderly people have it (including a friend's parent) and it's well manageable with minimal symptoms for a very long time.

AuntyEntropy · 20/12/2024 09:26

TheFormidableMrsC · 20/12/2024 08:54

There have also been some horrible comments about Kate's appearance. I don't think people who haven't had cancer realise the toll that treatment takes on you (I have had breast cancer). My appearance definitely changed and while I have recovered well, it definitely made a difference to my skin etc and I feel that I possibly looked older for a while. I personally feel that she looks amazing given what she's been through. It's really unkind to comment on her appearance while her body is recovering from really harsh treatment.

Off topic but I actually think that our instincts to "leap to Kate's defence" when it's remarked that her health issues have taken a toll on her appearance are unwitting evidence of societal misogyny.

Saying that someone looks terrible after they've had cancer and challenging chemotherapy is logically not a criticism of them: but our assessment of women's value as people is so bound up with their looks that it's received as a bitchy assault on them and unforgivably rude. See also, older women being criticised for looking old, fat women being "defended" against the "accusation" of looking fat.

LunaNorth · 20/12/2024 09:27

TotallyTwisted · 20/12/2024 08:47

I agree, she looks awful, very haggard.

Fucking hell, I’m glad you can’t see me.

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 20/12/2024 09:29

TaggieO · 20/12/2024 07:10

I thought it was prostate cancer? If you have to get cancer it’s tbe best one as extremely slow growing, and v responsive to hormonal treatments, but these do take longer than chemo.

We have lost four friends to prostate cancer during the last ten years. 🙁. All at least mid 60s or in their 70s, and they died of it, not ‘with’ it.

doodleschnoodle · 20/12/2024 09:34

@Kitkat1523 Yes my mum died last year of breast cancer that had metastasised to her bone and liver. Awful. In my grandad's case it was probably from the prostate cancer or an undiscovered other primary cancer.

BellissimoGecko · 20/12/2024 09:35

Petrasings · 20/12/2024 07:27

It was our understanding he has advanced pancreatic cancer.

How on earth did you come to that conclusion? Pancreatic cancer is a bastard IME, with a poor survival rate. It's very aggressive so seems unlikely that this is it.

BellissimoGecko · 20/12/2024 09:36

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If it were you, would you want to announce your diagnosis to the world? No?

LoafofSellotape · 20/12/2024 09:39

lissie123 · 20/12/2024 07:35

I was thinking bladder cancer but I’m not a medic.

I wondered if he went in for a prostate op but they found he had bladder cancer,this happened to a friend of ours. He had the BCG treatment for a while and is well now but it took some time.

AmazingGraze · 20/12/2024 09:40

User54614664 · 20/12/2024 09:26

Doubt it's pancreatic because people usually lose a lot of weight, suffer serious complications and can go downhill fast. Charles has looked healthy the whole year...honestly forgot he was having treatment until it was brought up in the press.

It could be some kind of myeloma. Lots of elderly people have it (including a friend's parent) and it's well manageable with minimal symptoms for a very long time.

I really don’t think he does look healthy. He’s very pale and has aged hugely.

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TheFormidableMrsC · 20/12/2024 09:42

@AuntyEntropy While I don't disagree with you, I wasn't leaping to her defence. She doesn't need defending. My point was I can empathise because of my own lived experiences and the toll treatment takes on you physically. Because she's in the public eye, she's held to impossibly high standards and this leads to stupid and cruel comments.

LoafofSellotape · 20/12/2024 09:48

I imagine Catherine has possibly stopped beauty treatments such as Botox now so we're seeing a different look now. Having any op knocks you sideways but she looks pretty amazing for someone who has had chemo.

allthemiddlechildrenoftheworld · 20/12/2024 10:00

@PrettyFlyforaMaiTai I thought he had pancreatic cancer, not prostate.

Codlingmoths · 20/12/2024 10:05

Petrasings · 20/12/2024 07:30

Most blood cancers are also terminal - although there is hope for new treatments now.

Not anymore, I have a relative back to living a normal life with leukaemia that’s basically in remission. I think she takes tablets for it still? she travels , works (on a board, she’s nearly 70), goes out.

you’d know if it was advanced pancreatic cancer. He d probably be dead by now and if he wasn’t he’d look like he was.

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