Anyone starting to feel sorry for them?

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No matter how preeningly narcissistic the couple may seem, surely even they must now have realised what the source of their woes is? The fact is: people were only interested in hearing what Harry and Meghan had to say when they were dishing the dirt on the royal family.Hence, in January last year, the record-breakingly vast sales of Harrys memoir Spare. with all its eye-popping claims about his brother, father and stepmother. But every time he, and Meghan, start talking about any other topic – be it sport, jam or social justice – the world turns off. No one cares. Now that the Sussexes have finished flogging all the family secrets, they’ve got nothing that anyone wants.

There is part of me that does feelsorry for them too. I mean 2024 has been a disaster, off the back of 2023 which was another disaster. It’s not going to get any better. Reap what you sow, so we knew it was coming their way but it’s all a bit sad and pathetic now. The faux tours, cards from ‘the office of’, as time goes on, the more pathetic that will look because they have lost all connection to the Royals

This must be their year of reckoning. He won’t win his cases, they will lose Netflix, the brand will face further set backs, they realise that their kids will never have a royal Christmas at Sandringham or summer at Balmoral, ever. In fact they are unlikely to ever meet the King again.

Its all came off the rails. We all knew it would happen. Many could even see the disaster impending from the engagement announcement. But it’s still hard to watch and that’s what makes me feel a bit sorry for them.

Prepared to be flamed! 😬

WinterCrow questions why Harry was silent about Diana's 'protector' Al Fayed. Well, I doubt he would have known about what he got up to, he wasn't even with them during her final stint in Paris

I think it was pretty obvious I was asking why isn't Harry saying anything now, given the revelations of the past few months.

I don't recall Harry making a statement about P.Diddy. African Parks seems to be another area of silence.

Tight-lipped over the BetterUp toxicity too.

Getting to be quite the list.

remember their early attempt, when still part of the RF, to sell Sussex-branded merch

The thought of Sussex branded bandannas still gives me a warm glow of joy😂

They’re mixed up with so many dubious people and organisations now but never speak out about anything unless it’s to lecture the general public about things they know nothing about .

No, what are you, a conspiracy theorist or something? It was Prince Philip in the library with a candlestick, of course!

The Mail claims a Sussex supporter has released an AI generated Christmas card purporting to show Archie and Lilibet. I do feel a bit sorry for them, with fans like that who needs to worry about tabloid gossip.

Yes, I saw that.

It was obviously faked, but the amount of comments that appeared to be thinking it was genuine was disturbing. And hysterical.

Yes I've seen that @MrsLeonFarrell , quite clearly AI but all the secrecy generates such weirdness as well as the 'moon bump' conspiracies.

I only saw it in The Mail, hard to believe that anyone would think it's real!

I don't think they have been that secretive. The fake pregnancy/ child conspiracy isn't just confined to the Sussexes. Lots of famous women have been accused of faking pregnancies. It's a weird quirk of the Internet that Occum's Razor is consistently ignored.

I think part of the reason for the theories is due to the secrecy surrounding Archie’s birth . Obviously up to them but for someone who loves a camera I found it strange that Meghan did not want to pose outside the hospital .

I just saw that on the DM, that is absolutely SICK.

and i thought poor Charlotte being cajoled into doing a selfie was bad, that AI image just eclipses anything I have ever seen. Weird doesn't even touch it.

They had a 12 month transition period where they could have decided to undo Megxit or renegotiate a new solution closer to what they wanted too but I can see how it would have been difficult to see things clearly during the first 6 months because of the pandemic and their new baby.

Half in /half out was wisely rejected. You can’t have RF members picking and choosing which events to attend and if taking a smile next to people like Trump isn’t possible then “out” was their only option.

It was the lying about the timing of the labour that put it in the Twilight Zone for me.

Yes that's true. That was strange. I totally understand them not wanting to have the media camped outside the hospital doing breathless updates. I understand then not wanting the pose otuside with babe in arms and people like kay Burley asking why she still has a baby bump (which was a total fricking clanger KB dropped when Catherine had george). But they could have just said 'The baby was born on Friday- mother and baby doing well' rather than the frankly barking 'MM has gone into labour this morning- oops no she had it 3 days ago and is home'.

Nuts.

And done by Sussex Squad of all things. Bizarre!

Meghan did do a photocall with Archie but at Windsor castle rather than on hospital steps. I suspect she thought this was outdoing her SIL and good for her image in the US - don't forget the timing of her labour announcement coincided perfectly with the morning news on the east coast of the US. She was also the only royal GDIL to have a photographer capture the moment QEII met her ggc. Another coup for her, in her head. Thankfully the Queen apparently realised what Megan was made of by the time Lillibet came along and didn't allow their photographer to capture her meeting the baby.

Yes, you and me both Cathy
I absolutely respected their wish to keep the whole thing under wraps, not to do the "steps appearance" and all the rest, but that just wasn't necessary and it brought a level of tabloid ire which didn't need to have happened

That was part of what made them so fascinating from an observer's point of view. They claim they want privacy but everything they did seemed to be designed to goad the British press into more speculation and attention.

They were so desperate to not give the British press anything - any scoop - any heads up that they were leaving for the hospital, that they concocted some bizarre timeline announcing Meghan was in labour while she was already back home with the baby.

Then in Spare Harry blows that weird timeline out of the water again by claiming all sorts of peculiar details including needing two epidurals but then a first-time, older mother being able to arrive back home within two hours of giving birth.

That and all the 'back of head photos' but intimate family moments in the Netflix document.

It's like fuel to all the conspiracy theorists.

If they went the boring but controlled route like the Wales', (or a bit more private but with less drama like Eugenie and Beatrice and Zara etc) then all this crazy 'kids are not real' nonsense would die down.

A couple of curated but regular photos once or twice a year. You get to control the image and when it's released.

Similar accusations made against Wills and Kate - that she revealed she had cancer silenced all that for good, but then... what was the deal about releasing a picture that had been photoshopped so many times? It's not like she'd lost her hair through chemo or looked any different, it's easy enough to pose for a picture, I'd have thought.

I am willing to believe both sides - that Harry and Meghan might be stuck up and selfish and so on, and that he has legit fears about her safety, the two are not mutually exclusive. God help you if you cross the State or threaten to show it up however, things get very nasty.

Essentially, he has left a cult and once you do that, people will turn on you. That is what happens. You get it if you leave the scientologists... This thread does remind me of a similar one going now about freemasons, I do possibly find it a bit odd that so many well-informed people have an interest in this, can't fault being well-informed but it is very much an agenda. But then I have agenda too, I just hate the British State now I've found out about it, so I think, good on Harry for getting the hell out.

I never suggested the Met killed Dodi Fayed, Paris is outside their jurisdiction. Just saying, you wouldn't exactly trust the Met to have your back anywhere, you could trust them to take photos of your dead wife if she was black, however.

I just hate the British State

You do such a good job of hiding it….

Why would I want to hide it? Look what it did to the postmaster generals, contaminated blood families, the euthanasia of the elderly in care settings without famliies' knowledge, the Grenfell survivors and so on...

So, no, I won't hide it - but I think some of you are less than upfront about your loathing for Meghan and Harry and what lies behind it.

Very few people loathe MM and PH, none on this thread that I can see. For most people they are just characters in a soap opera, pantomime villains perhaps. But pantomime audiences love the villains, they are often their favourite characters, and boo and hiss every time they see them.

As a resident of NYC it does annoy me that we have to provide Harry with police security for him and his security when he is in my city. But recently someone pointed out to me that this way his security won't cause traffic accidents, run people over, block the road, etc. as they drive Harry to tatoo parlors. So I suppose the NYPD escort is protecting innocent New Yorkers.