Anyone starting to feel sorry for them?

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No matter how preeningly narcissistic the couple may seem, surely even they must now have realised what the source of their woes is? The fact is: people were only interested in hearing what Harry and Meghan had to say when they were dishing the dirt on the royal family.Hence, in January last year, the record-breakingly vast sales of Harrys memoir Spare. with all its eye-popping claims about his brother, father and stepmother. But every time he, and Meghan, start talking about any other topic – be it sport, jam or social justice – the world turns off. No one cares. Now that the Sussexes have finished flogging all the family secrets, they’ve got nothing that anyone wants.

There is part of me that does feelsorry for them too. I mean 2024 has been a disaster, off the back of 2023 which was another disaster. It’s not going to get any better. Reap what you sow, so we knew it was coming their way but it’s all a bit sad and pathetic now. The faux tours, cards from ‘the office of’, as time goes on, the more pathetic that will look because they have lost all connection to the Royals

This must be their year of reckoning. He won’t win his cases, they will lose Netflix, the brand will face further set backs, they realise that their kids will never have a royal Christmas at Sandringham or summer at Balmoral, ever. In fact they are unlikely to ever meet the King again.

Its all came off the rails. We all knew it would happen. Many could even see the disaster impending from the engagement announcement. But it’s still hard to watch and that’s what makes me feel a bit sorry for them.

Prepared to be flamed! 😬

You don't actually feel sorry for them though, do you? Otherwise, you'd let the story die instead of fanning the flames.

Fanning what flames?

Oh please

The answer will be a no

This one had somehow passed me by, @Thedom; was it to do with his comments about the children being "the best gift he ever had"?

If so it's innocuous enough in itself, but maybe suggestive of what measures he's prepared to take ... and if it's right about it being quickly removed, also a reminder of his infamous email about not being seen to have anything to do with the collaboration with Scobie

Diana died because she wasn’t wearing a set belt and the driver was impaired and driving too fast

The chauffeur was nothing to do with the royal family dodis father hired him

Her death was an accident if she had wore her seatbelt she was most likely to survive she always wore it why she didn't that night we shall never know likewise why they left the safety of the hotel they were not supposed to leave again that night

I found it interesting that Harry, Meghan and Doria weren't wearing seat belts in NYC during the 'near-catastrophic' car chase.

Did we find our ever find out why the Doria was working for MI6, or was she feeding stories back to The Sun or is that more or less the same thing. Or that the Doria was in some way a former State operative????

Probably because they were doing walking pace speed.

Wasn't Harold rather nonchanantly on his phone?

Not saying it wasn't terrifying but still...

I think he was filming the paps ?

In slo-mo? 😎

Apparently he's refused to release his footage to assist the NY Police Dept.

While 'demanding' the footage of others 🤔

Fairly standard for him - one set of rules for Harry and another for the rest of the world

I read somewhere (I think it was an article about the inquiry) that the car she was in that night (owned by the Fayed's) had previously been in an accident, repaired and put back on the road. And since then the back seat belts - apparently - didn't work.

I'll try and see if I can find it again.

You might want to see if you can find what you're thinking of in the transcripts:

Inquests into the deaths of Diana, Princess of Wales, and Emad El-Din Mohamed Abdel Moneim Fayed (Mr Dodi Al Fayed): Evidence Database | The National Archives

I've done a quick search, and all I can find so far is comments that both British & French investigators did tests on the seat belt system and no faults were found. So I'm clearly misremembering or the article I read was wrong.

Too late to edit my post, so just ignore it.

I have no idea why Diana didn't wear her seatbelt, her sister (Sarah) said she was 'religious' about wearing them.

Well, if you've got someone in the back seat who could just reach over and unclip it at the key moment, that might work - and then deny all memory of the crash, too, when you're the only survivor. That might work.

But the thing is, I don't know and I don't particularly care. My point is, few or none of us are saying, my goodness, no way could the police or MI6 do something like that, they are such nice upstanding good guys. The whole Jean Charles Menezes case of the Stockwell shooting showed what they can get up to and subsequently lie about.

It was Doria I tell you! In the car with a candlestick.

Diana’s sister did say that, but it wasn’t true, sadly. There’s loads of photos and video footage of Diana sitting in cars/being driven with no seatbelt on.

On the night she died you can see in this photo taken as the car drove away from the Ritz that she’s actually sitting side on, with her back to the window. Presumably to avoid her face being photographed. It wouldn’t be possible to sit like that and wear a seatbelt.

I don’t think that MI6 are sufficiently incompetent that they would try and assassinate someone in a car crash. It is a totally unreliable way of deliberately dispatching someone

It's illegal in NYC to not wear a seatbelt in a car. In police traffic stops, you can be ticketed for not wearing one.

Also, in a yellow cab ( or a green outer borough one) a recorded message will tell you, non-stop, to put on your seatbelt. It does not stop until you put on the seatbelt. When I saw the photos, my first thought was that the cabbie had to turn off the message or go nuts from the noise. The three of them clearly chose not to wear a seatbelt in the alleged car chase

Harry joined the army and was stationed in Afghanistan. He then came back and pissed off a lot of people when he wrote about his kill count. The fact that he survived Afghanistan ( didn't people die to keep him alive?) makes me believe that his family and country want to keep him alive. He was more at risk in the army than he is in NYC.