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FloofPaws · 11/12/2024 12:37

Vespanest · 11/12/2024 10:59

I don't really think this is the time and place for Meghan criticism when this is Harry who often is shielded from the belief that Meghan is the driving force when really he's just a man child with an ability to not see the bigger picture or listen to advice

They're both spoilt petulant children, and extreme entitlement in both of them ... I expect Meghan is taking a step back because she knows it's crap tv, and scratch the surface and you'll see extreme entitlement, nastiness, cruelty, so
She'll have that shield of 🤷🏻‍♀️

Sunblessed · 11/12/2024 12:47

@Vespanest

Ths showrunner talks at length about Meghans involvement and vision for the project. It was her idea to focus on the ‘community’ that watches the polo.

See interviews with Variety, People and the NYPost. Meghan is mentioned frequently

So it’s fair that she is criticised too for producing a boring, vacuous and sexist programme.

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WinterCrow · 11/12/2024 13:12

Follow up piece in the MailOnline by Jessica Green, following Jane Fryer's one star review that pp linked earlier.

'Prince Harry and Meghan Markle's Netflix series Polo is panned by critics who all have the same complaint about 'boring' series'

www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-14180857/Prince-Harry-Meghan-Markles-Netflix-series-Polo-panned-critics-complaint-boring-series.html

WinterCrow · 11/12/2024 13:19

And here's Joel Keller writing in Decider.com's 'Stream of Skip it?' review section:

'SKIP IT. Polo is a mostly boring look at a sport that very few people outside of elite circles have any particular interest in.'

In the adjacent poll, 95% of people agree with 'skip it'.

https://decider.com/2024/12/10/polo-netflix-review/

Stream It Or Skip It: 'Polo' on Netflix, a Harry and Meghan-produced docuseries about competitors in the U.S. Open polo tournament

You’ll be shocked to find out we had problems connecting with the people profiled in this series.

https://decider.com/2024/12/10/polo-netflix-review

TheNinkyNonkyIsATardis · 11/12/2024 13:30

It's appearing under my "Recently Added" section on Netflix, but not in any emails, notifications, and you have to scroll right to see it in Recently Added.

That's a major blocker to frictionless viewing.

My toddler son will usually put some shows on - because he's got hold of the remote and is just pressing the select button again and again. You want your programme to be easy enough for a baby to put on!

Baital · 11/12/2024 16:46

AzurePanda · 11/12/2024 10:35

Two of my children played “country polo” for some years and actually got pretty good. We had 10 polo ponies but they were either free or we paid a couple of hundred pounds for them. They were all ex high goal ponies and when they got to about 16 they were no longer fast enough so we used to take them on.

All our tack was either free or bought for peanuts too and our ponies were unshod. Our polo truck was bought for £6k and was brilliant. So you can definitely do it on a shoestring and an awful lot of people do in the country.

But there is so much cruelty in the sport it’s horrific, I’ve seen some terrible things and it was lovely to give so many older ponies a kind and loving home. It’s also the case that once you get seriously good, unless you have a patron who is willing to fund you it becomes ruinously expensive .

I’m completely amazed Harry and Meghan wanted to be so publicly associated with it.

10.ponies (even if acquired for free) need a lot of feed, land, vets bills (even if no major illnesses or injuries). Then a £6k truck.

That may be a 'shoestring' compared to the serious polo players. But it is very far away from a 'shoestring' for most people! It's way out of reach.

Toots962 · 11/12/2024 17:07

Just watched this as have played Polo in the long distant past. I kept waiting for an episode on the horses!!. There would be no game without them. At least 6-10 each player per game, and they were hardly mentioned.

Louis was just interested in winning at any cost and I felt he would mis treat the horses to achieve his aim.

No. mention of the history of the game and it's origins.

Totally pointless show and very disappointing, hopefully not a true reflection of all Polo players/games.

CurlewKate · 11/12/2024 17:31

@Sunblessed "CurlewKate
I'm always amazed at how much detail d knowledge people have about the inner workings of the royal family-down to who said what to who when! There must be so many courtiers mumsnetting in their spare time!

No need to moonlight as a courtier when Harry puts all this info in his book"

I would rather eat wasps than read the book- but does he really recount all the appalling things Meghan is supposed to have said and done? Rather an own goal, surely?

BemusedAmerican · 11/12/2024 17:43

@AzurePanda You and your family sound like nice people. Many people choose to spend their disposable income on things rather than animals and pets. I'm glad those horses had happy later years.

WinterCrow · 11/12/2024 18:06

I would rather eat wasps than read the book- but does he really recount all the appalling things Meghan is supposed to have said and done? Rather an own goal, surely?

Yes, indeed, @CurlewKate - the combined personal revelations in the Oprah interview, the Netflix multi-part series, Spare, and many other recorded interviews, give a great deal of detail from the mouths and pens of Harry and Meghan themselves, and it could be argued that the resulting granular picture does them no favours.

Rhaidimiddim · 11/12/2024 18:25

CurlewKate · 11/12/2024 10:26

I'm always amazed at how much detail d knowledge people have about the inner workings of the royal family-down to who said what to who when! There must be so many courtiers mumsnetting in their spare time!

And so many people who know that W is a lazy do-nothing and C leaves everything to the nannies.9

Rhaidimiddim · 11/12/2024 18:28

Ellerby83 · 11/12/2024 10:43

I'm surprised that it wasn't in the NF contract that H &M had to publicity interviews for it

Perhaps, in the light of recent history, NF decided not to enforce that clause ( or actually gave them extra money NOT to do ant interviews).

PrettyFlyforaMaiTai · 11/12/2024 18:30

Do we know how it’s been received in the US and other countries yet?

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CurlewKate · 11/12/2024 18:38

@Rhaidimiddim "And so many people who know that W is a lazy do-nothing and C leaves everything to the nannies"

Indeed! Experts all.

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Rhaidimiddim · 11/12/2024 18:47

CurlewKate · 11/12/2024 17:31

@Sunblessed "CurlewKate
I'm always amazed at how much detail d knowledge people have about the inner workings of the royal family-down to who said what to who when! There must be so many courtiers mumsnetting in their spare time!

No need to moonlight as a courtier when Harry puts all this info in his book"

I would rather eat wasps than read the book- but does he really recount all the appalling things Meghan is supposed to have said and done? Rather an own goal, surely?

I've not read it, either, except for excerpts in other publications and media.

And he does mention M saying and doing stuff (including one of her emails, to Catherine) that he seems to think show OK behaviour, but readers are thinking WTAF.

BigWillyLittleTodger · 11/12/2024 19:07

Thoughtsareswirling · 11/12/2024 09:48

The fact that she greeted William and Kate in their first meeting in ripped jeans and bare feet says quite a lot.

That was a power play I suspect, she wanted to show William and Kate they were of no importance to her and that she had no respect for their position, she showed exactly who she was very early to W&K.

Thoughtsareswirling · 11/12/2024 19:14

BigWillyLittleTodger · 11/12/2024 19:07

That was a power play I suspect, she wanted to show William and Kate they were of no importance to her and that she had no respect for their position, she showed exactly who she was very early to W&K.

Yes I agree.

Sunblessed · 11/12/2024 19:29

BigWillyLittleTodger · 11/12/2024 19:07

That was a power play I suspect, she wanted to show William and Kate they were of no importance to her and that she had no respect for their position, she showed exactly who she was very early to W&K.

It definitely was.

You can imagine what they’d say if the opposite was true, that Kate and William turned up casual to dinner when she went to a lot of effort and was trying to make a good impression and put on her Sunday best. It would be stated that she didn’t understand why they did that, she thought a dinner party and meeting for the first time meant everyone put in a little effort and she was hurt by their perceived lack of effort and care. She felt it was a sign about how they felt about her and M&H relationship etc etc

It was just about making w&c look bad. It didn’t matter how they dressed that night, they would have spun it to their own ends

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Baital · 11/12/2024 19:32

BemusedAmerican · 11/12/2024 17:43

@AzurePanda You and your family sound like nice people. Many people choose to spend their disposable income on things rather than animals and pets. I'm glad those horses had happy later years.

And even more people don't have that level.of disposable income!

My issue is not with the poster's financial choices, it is with their description of that being a 'shoestring'.

I grew up in a rural area, so was able to ride quite a lot, quite cheaply. Lots of friends had a pony or two, because grazing was cheap. They had native pony types (not pure bred) and hardy cobs, that lived out all year with a rug in winter, and some hay and a handful of hard feed.

That is very different from 10 polo ponies, not only in the number of horses, but also needing far more shelter and feeding than tough little native ponies. I don't know anyone from my childhood who would have been able to afford 10 ponies/horses.

ToBeOrNotToBee · 11/12/2024 19:33

It's just so boring!

If netflix can make the tour de france interesting and binge worthy, this should have been a walk in the park.

What went wrong??

Thoughtsareswirling · 11/12/2024 19:33

Sunblessed · 11/12/2024 19:29

It definitely was.

You can imagine what they’d say if the opposite was true, that Kate and William turned up casual to dinner when she went to a lot of effort and was trying to make a good impression and put on her Sunday best. It would be stated that she didn’t understand why they did that, she thought a dinner party and meeting for the first time meant everyone put in a little effort and she was hurt by their perceived lack of effort and care. She felt it was a sign about how they felt about her and M&H relationship etc etc

It was just about making w&c look bad. It didn’t matter how they dressed that night, they would have spun it to their own ends

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Yup

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