Both Harry and Tyler talking about H&Ms marriage. Why?

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Please note, this thread is to discuss the rumours surrounding Harry and Meghans marriage. For those posters who don’t like to speculate, this thread isnt for you.
Now with Harry discussing his marriage in public, on stage with the worlds media watching, then it’s fair comment to discuss such issues.

To my point! Why did both Harry and Tyler allow questions about the marriage and why did they both talk?

There’s always rumours about H&M, that’s nothing new. In these interviews that are requested, possible questions are talked about beforehand with their teams and anything off limits will be strictly outlined. Many celebs will have a strict policy on not discussing certain issues. It’s why we will never see Tom Cruise getting asked about Suri etc

So why oh why, was questions about their marriage/rumours allowed?

So at the Dealbook conference Harry was asked a question about H&M suddenly doing their events separately. Indeed, Harry’s appearance at Dealbook was a surprise when he was slated to appear at Tyler Perrys award months ago.

Question:

There's articles left and right about, you know, 'Why are you doing independent events? Why aren't you doing them together?'" Sorkin said. "Is that a good thing for you, in a way, that there's so much interest in you?"

Harry reflected that the media speculation is "definitely not a good thing," adding: "We've apparently divorced maybe 10, 12 times as well. So, it's just like, what?"

So Harry and his team allowed a question about the rumours of their separation and thrn Harry took it even further by actually talking about divorce rumours, when the interviewer said no such thing.

Theres rumours all the time about their marriage. Remember last year when the Sun had an article that he had a hotel room on standby at a nearby hotel? He didn’t come out then and talk about those rumours. Yet, talk of their separation seems to have upset them this time that they’ve felt the need to talk about it. This wouldn’t have been done without Meghan approval either

Which brings me to Tyler. He gave an exclusive interview to E! Where he again, talks about Harry and Meghan relationship:

"They love each other," Tyler told E! News at the Paley Honors Fall Gala, where he was honored with the prestigious Paley Honors award. "They have a beautiful family and I just want the best for them."

Tyler giving an exclusive interview would not have allowed a question on the couple unless it had been ok’d. What we don’t see in the E! Article is what question he was asked to give that somewhat odd reply. Was he asked if they’ve split? Was he asked why Harry didn’t appear with Meghan? Who knows! But it must have been a something questioning their relationship to give out an answer like that. A answer which makes the relationship look like it’s in trouble by saying he wants the best for them. Why did he allow that question in an exclusive interview?

I think it’s because M&H have been rattled by the rumours and annoyed that people have picked up upon him bailing from the Tyler Perry awards and not having been pictured with his wife in months. So they’ve allowed these questions to try and bat away the rumours.

But Tyler saying they love each other and he wants the best for them is hardly a ringing endorsement, it actually sounds more like he’s rooting for them to pull through.

Harry never shuts down the split rumours either, he just laments the press (even though it isn’t the press) for stating he’s been divorced 10/12 times. He doesn’t actually say something like- yes, we’re really focusing on our individual projects right now, busy trying to get as much done as possible and separating projects has allowed us to do that. But rumours about a marriage split are completely wrong and untrue.

So H&M PR have told them to quash the rumours this week, because it looks like they were rattled. Which only leads you then to think, that it’s probably true. They probably are going through something right now.

You don’t make your whole brand about your partnership, then suddenly start doing separate projects and not being seen together in public. Something has gone wrong in the previous approach for them to come up with the conclusion that they can’t be seen together. That he won’t be seen with his wife.

My feelings are that they are taking time out and a step back from the intensity of the last few years. Not necessarily a spilt, but they in their personal lives as well as professional, are trying to work out who they are and what’s their direction. They became enmeshed with each other and that isn’t healthy. They’ve relied on each other too much because both have abandoned their families. It’s not really all that surprising when we know the couple have struggled with poor mental health. It was only 5 years ago meghan was having suicidal thoughts and Harry’s troubles are well known.

So all these rumours have hid a nerve I’d say. I think they really need to step away from the limelight and retreat. Because it looks like it’s going to cost them their relationship.

He approaches the man first, shakes hand.
Turns to her, she holds out her hand, expecting equal treatment. He decides to go in for a full body hug.

I'd be creeped out. Massively.

@GiveMeSpanakopita the footballer is an interesting one. Meghan arrived in the UK in the summer of 2016, looking for personal and professional opportunities. She made contact with various people and organisations. She made friends with Lizzie Cundy, who asked her to introduce her to a footballer, one Ashley Cole. She also tried to get on Made in Chelsea, and tested out for a cookery programme. She made friends at Soho House.
That's why she made contact with Piers Morgan, and met up with him in order to promote herself and look for opportunities.

😂He just hops out of the car, at night, after spotting a few randoms on the side of the street in NYC for a hug and a chat. All captured very perfectly on video. 😜😜

No couple publishing/braoadcasting with this level of detail and glee about their blood relatives could possibly imagine they sound sane.

Fixed that for you

The only rumours I hear about these people are on MN.

This thread has come about because PH himself and TP chose to raise this issue simultaneously. The words are directly from their own mouths. Both of them likely, due to the nature of the events, had 100% control over the Qs asked.

They both wanted this raised for their own agenda.

Most bizarre that at his own award ceremony, honoring his lifetime contribution to the entertainmnt industry, TP, would give focus to the rumours of marriage issues of another couple.....very odd indeed.

Lots of people online have made their feelings well known, that the whole mess surrounding Harry and Meghan…..is all Ashley Cole’s fault 😂

Imagine if he took the hit instead, what a different world it would be!

Very interesting @GiveMeSpanakopita . I wonder what the concerns were although I could hazard a guess.
I suspect it will come out eventually.

Not sure anything will. The current BRF approach of stepping right back with a dignified silence has paid off nicely as they dont get in their way, or muddy the waters, of them making total fools of themselves on the world stage.

I think Harry will do anything for attention.

Tyler Perry not happy at all!

Im glad the journalist pointed out to him that the bad headlines are not just from UK papers but also US. He seems very very sensitive!!!!

Asked about how he helped prepare the Duke and Duchess for their move to America, Perry shot back at the interviewer: 'I didn't.'
The Times noted that 'any conversational intimacy evaporated' as Perry bristled at the questions about Markle.
'Meghan is from California. She knows California well. So there was nothing to prepare them for. But I will say this: what I learnt about mentioning them - because there’s this insatiable appetite to know all about them - is that any question that is asked becomes the headline of anything I say,' the film mogul said.
Then the interviewer reminded him the headlines are just as plentiful across the pond and Perry fired off another acid-tongued reply: 'You think? Well, you would know better than I would because I’m not paying attention to that world.'

There’s definitely something going on! That’s such an OTT reaction

I wouldn't describe that as the "current" approach.

It's the permanent norm.

From earlier threads, around the times of OW, the book etc, there were posters who were saying "surely the RF must say something now" "isn't it terrible they're not responding" "their PR is rubbish" "this really is time to break the silence"

Whist many of us who have been chatting on about the RF for decades just knew they wouldn't.

And had a shrewd idea - proved right - of what it would look a few years down the line

I don't know, and I don't care tbh. You get a lot of social media rumours to the effect that Meghan used to do yachting (yachting in the showbiz sense; if you know you know) and quite frankly I don't know if it's true and don't care either way. A woman's gotta do what she's gotta to do keep a roof over her head and keep moving forward; I've led a colourful life myself and never judge a sister doing what she has to do.

FWIW I think the concerns raised by the 'grey suits' weren't so much about things Meghan may or may not have done, but more about her personality type. I think there was a concern that she might dominate or manipulate Harry, or that their personalities were ill-matched to the extent that the marriage might be volatile or short lived. It was a concern about compatibility rather than any specific skeletons in closets if you see what I mean.

As it happens it has long been rumoured by those in the know that the marriage IS volatile and always has been. Euphoric highs and bitter, nasty lows. Harry may of course feel a dysfunctional comfort in this sort of relationship as his mother was very volatile and he (sadly) had a front row seat to some of her...antics. Not as front row as William, but he's done enough therapy and inner work to have come to terms with and let go of all that. Harry, by all accounts, is still and has long been pretty psychologically fragile.

I agree. They also took this approach with C earlier this year - but they IMHO they cracked with the Mothers Day photo. They should have held firm. Never indulge the braying trolls.

Fun Fact Corner: About 12 years ago, Cheryl who had been married to Ashley Cole till 2010, appeared on the Graham Norton show (with Katy Perry and Ross Noble). Cheryl and Katy Perry joked with Graham Norton about whether they would date / marry the 'hot ginger' and there was a lot of warmth in the room toward and about Harry (and toward the guests).

It just goes to show, (a) twelve years is a long time in celebrity land, and (b) it's a very small world, and (c) you are judged by the company you keep, by peers and the buying public.

It's interesting that in the recent interview Harry says that he has dealt with all of it in therapy and he doesn't read what is written about him. I thought the host was excellent with his questions and didn't get sidetracked by happy jokey Harry and his carpets comments. He really nailed him and Harry was indeed foundering.

Tyler is realising that by being linked to Meghan any of his positive achievements are being hidden by what Meghan is doing, wearing etc if at the same event. He was naive and made a deal with the devil and his chickens are coming home to roost. The Paley event has just confirmed this to him. Oprah was at the event and I believe opened it but I haven't seen any photos of her in the press. Have I missed them? I suspect he's not the only one.

What about his security? Is he safe? 🙄

I can’t actually believe I’ve just seen that. What on earth was that about? Just beyond weird. For a man obsessed with privacy and paranoid about protection just why would he do that???

It's interesting that in the recent interview Harry says that he has dealt with all of it in therapy

In my personal opinion, Harry's been doing all the wrong sort of 'therapy'. William had a form of trauma-informed DBT and he (and Chelsy in earlier years, and Kate on a separate occasion) urged Harry to do the same. Having gone through trauma-informed DBT myself to deal with childhood abuse and DV, I can absolutely say that it's incredibly hard work but literally life changing.

Harry, possibly because he was afraid of doing the hard (and sometimes retraumatising) work, went for the much easier (and in my view utterly useless) options which are peddled by exorbitantly expensive Cali therapists looking to make a fast buck of the rich and miserable: ayahuasca, micro-dosing and that weird thing, I forget what it's called, but a snake oil way to 'deal' with trauma through self-entrancement - opening your third eye by tapping on your pressure points. If it sounds like bollocks, that is because it is and my only disappointment is that Harry did a whole TV programme extolling the benefits of these fake therapies when he could have signposted viewers to treatments which have actually been shown empirically to help with trauma.

I saw photos on Twitter which showed the stage and it was noted that Meghan was not included with OW etc .

Sometimes, with the epidemic of Diddyitis blowing around, I'm not sure about who's trying to distance themselves from who.

Do you mean EFT when you talk about the ‘snake oil ‘ therapy? If so you clearly don’t have a clue what you’re talking about .

No joint appearance either for the promotion of POLO. They don’t seem to be doing anything for it, never mind doing it together

Which is weird, just think how much press they’d get for the show. But it will just be sent out into the ether….and forgotten about

If you had a production company and you knew your platform would give you guaranteed headlines, why would you not be using that to your company’s advantage?

I think the production side of Archewell will die a death. In reality all it was about what’s Netflix getting their Megxit story. Neither Netflix nor Harry ever had any real interest. I think Meghan thought she was going to be a serious producer but she just hasn’t the commitment or talent to make it work. Think she thought she could replicate the Obamas. But alas, it’s not to be

There isn’t even any advance reviews out yet! Even from their friendly outlets like Variety and Marie Claire. I think it’s going to be a one series dud

What’s happened to the 4 book deal ? So far only Spare and The Bench .

Don’t think anything is happening with the books either. With the exception of maybe a cook book in the near future.

Seems like they're winding things down and separating their businesses