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Both Harry and Tyler talking about H&Ms marriage. Why?

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Sunblessed · 07/12/2024 09:57

Please note, this thread is to discuss the rumours surrounding Harry and Meghans marriage. For those posters who don’t like to speculate, this thread isnt for you.
Now with Harry discussing his marriage in public, on stage with the worlds media watching, then it’s fair comment to discuss such issues.

To my point! Why did both Harry and Tyler allow questions about the marriage and why did they both talk?

There’s always rumours about H&M, that’s nothing new. In these interviews that are requested, possible questions are talked about beforehand with their teams and anything off limits will be strictly outlined. Many celebs will have a strict policy on not discussing certain issues. It’s why we will never see Tom Cruise getting asked about Suri etc

So why oh why, was questions about their marriage/rumours allowed?

So at the Dealbook conference Harry was asked a question about H&M suddenly doing their events separately. Indeed, Harry’s appearance at Dealbook was a surprise when he was slated to appear at Tyler Perrys award months ago.

Question:

There's articles left and right about, you know, 'Why are you doing independent events? Why aren't you doing them together?'" Sorkin said. "Is that a good thing for you, in a way, that there's so much interest in you?"

Harry reflected that the media speculation is "definitely not a good thing," adding: "We've apparently divorced maybe 10, 12 times as well. So, it's just like, what?"

So Harry and his team allowed a question about the rumours of their separation and thrn Harry took it even further by actually talking about divorce rumours, when the interviewer said no such thing.

Theres rumours all the time about their marriage. Remember last year when the Sun had an article that he had a hotel room on standby at a nearby hotel? He didn’t come out then and talk about those rumours. Yet, talk of their separation seems to have upset them this time that they’ve felt the need to talk about it. This wouldn’t have been done without Meghan approval either

Which brings me to Tyler. He gave an exclusive interview to E! Where he again, talks about Harry and Meghan relationship:

"They love each other," Tyler told E! News at the Paley Honors Fall Gala, where he was honored with the prestigious Paley Honors award. "They have a beautiful family and I just want the best for them."

Tyler giving an exclusive interview would not have allowed a question on the couple unless it had been ok’d. What we don’t see in the E! Article is what question he was asked to give that somewhat odd reply. Was he asked if they’ve split? Was he asked why Harry didn’t appear with Meghan? Who knows! But it must have been a something questioning their relationship to give out an answer like that. A answer which makes the relationship look like it’s in trouble by saying he wants the best for them. Why did he allow that question in an exclusive interview?

I think it’s because M&H have been rattled by the rumours and annoyed that people have picked up upon him bailing from the Tyler Perry awards and not having been pictured with his wife in months. So they’ve allowed these questions to try and bat away the rumours.

But Tyler saying they love each other and he wants the best for them is hardly a ringing endorsement, it actually sounds more like he’s rooting for them to pull through.

Harry never shuts down the split rumours either, he just laments the press (even though it isn’t the press) for stating he’s been divorced 10/12 times. He doesn’t actually say something like- yes, we’re really focusing on our individual projects right now, busy trying to get as much done as possible and separating projects has allowed us to do that. But rumours about a marriage split are completely wrong and untrue.

So H&M PR have told them to quash the rumours this week, because it looks like they were rattled. Which only leads you then to think, that it’s probably true. They probably are going through something right now.

You don’t make your whole brand about your partnership, then suddenly start doing separate projects and not being seen together in public. Something has gone wrong in the previous approach for them to come up with the conclusion that they can’t be seen together. That he won’t be seen with his wife.

My feelings are that they are taking time out and a step back from the intensity of the last few years. Not necessarily a spilt, but they in their personal lives as well as professional, are trying to work out who they are and what’s their direction. They became enmeshed with each other and that isn’t healthy. They’ve relied on each other too much because both have abandoned their families. It’s not really all that surprising when we know the couple have struggled with poor mental health. It was only 5 years ago meghan was having suicidal thoughts and Harry’s troubles are well known.

So all these rumours have hid a nerve I’d say. I think they really need to step away from the limelight and retreat. Because it looks like it’s going to cost them their relationship.

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MayaKovskaya · 08/12/2024 15:16

Mylovelygreendress · 08/12/2024 15:09

What’s happened to the 4 book deal ? So far only Spare and The Bench .

Was The Bench counted? I thought that was something different.

Mylovelygreendress · 08/12/2024 15:42

MayaKovskaya · 08/12/2024 15:16

Was The Bench counted? I thought that was something different.

You could well be right , I just assumed it was part of the deal .

WinterCrow · 08/12/2024 16:12

IMO the trouble with the Polo documentary, is that it's going to be very difficult for the liberal, progressive media to review it in a positive light, given the built-in elitism, nepotism and cruelty of the 'sport'. The official trailer would suggest that the execs/producers (which include H&M, using full royal and ducal titles) are lionising that, not critically questioning it or critiquing it.

I think that there is an exposé documentary to be made about polo, and H&M's ducally-branded Polo is not it.

Sunblessed · 08/12/2024 16:21

The comments on YouTube for the Netflix POLO trailer is probably an indicator of how it will be received. All negative, lots pointing out it’s a cruel sport. Can’t see this being successful but still don’t get why they aren’t doing anything to promote it.

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Sunblessed · 08/12/2024 16:21

Maybe because they are on different coasts…..still

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cheezncrackers · 08/12/2024 16:24

Sunblessed · 08/12/2024 09:53

Actually Harry seems to already be spending a bit of time in NY

Yes, he keeps going there doesn't he? Then there was the solo trip to Africa too, which was all a bit cloak and dagger. He did the public bit for Sentebale and then he went off on a personal trip - maybe to see his old friends in Botswana, the family 'that raised him' 🙄But it was weird, IMO, that his beloved DW who once upon a time he couldn't stop gushing about didn't accompany him.

Thoughtsareswirling · 08/12/2024 16:27

cheezncrackers · 08/12/2024 16:24

Yes, he keeps going there doesn't he? Then there was the solo trip to Africa too, which was all a bit cloak and dagger. He did the public bit for Sentebale and then he went off on a personal trip - maybe to see his old friends in Botswana, the family 'that raised him' 🙄But it was weird, IMO, that his beloved DW who once upon a time he couldn't stop gushing about didn't accompany him.

He hardly seems to be there for his kids either.

stripeyshutters · 08/12/2024 16:37

Is this their weird way of being talked about? It didn't matter how negative it is? Are they doing this deliberately?

Sunblessed · 08/12/2024 16:54

stripeyshutters · 08/12/2024 16:37

Is this their weird way of being talked about? It didn't matter how negative it is? Are they doing this deliberately?

This is what I can’t figure out

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TeaMistress · 08/12/2024 16:58

It's obvious all isn't well within their marriage. Their "professional separation" is probably a precursor to a divorce. I don't like either Harry or his wife and I think they are both as bad as each other. In the event of a divorce, the two little people I would be concerned about are their two small children....it's likely to become extremely nasty and those children need to be safeguarded as much as possible.

Thoughtsareswirling · 08/12/2024 17:03

I kind of get the feeling that they have already decided the marriage is more or less over and are working on the details now. Perhaps it will be amicable and they’ll work together to make things as easy as possible for the children. Harry will most probably stay in the US so he’s gained his freedom from the circus of the RF. She has got a comfortable lifestyle and plenty of money and the freedom not to have to work again. So both of them have gained something. They can share custody and probably lead much happier lives in the long run.

stripeyshutters · 08/12/2024 17:05

I have no feelings about wanting them to stay together or not. These things happen.

LivelyMintViper · 08/12/2024 17:07

She may currently have plenty of money but her business sense makes me think that that may not always be the case!

Sunblessed · 08/12/2024 17:07

I agree that I can’t see it lasting but I do think they would try and do right by the kids and not snipe at each other. Of course there would be puff pieces from either side but I don’t think there would be a sit down, teary eyed interview, airing their dirty laundry to Oprah.

I think they would issue some nonsense uncoupling statement and how they will always remain a family. They’ve both got too much to lose if it turns nasty. The kids will pick a side and none of them have any other family left, so they won’t want to alienate their kids. That is until he has kids with a much younger woman…..

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ajandjjmum · 08/12/2024 17:12

I do wonder whether Harry has been advised to keep away from The Paley Award (or whatever it's called) due to the P. Diddy links, and has maybe heeded the advice and is currently living in the King's apartment in NY.

Pure supposition of course, but maybe he's seeing the light?

TeaMistress · 08/12/2024 17:14

Sunblessed · 08/12/2024 17:07

I agree that I can’t see it lasting but I do think they would try and do right by the kids and not snipe at each other. Of course there would be puff pieces from either side but I don’t think there would be a sit down, teary eyed interview, airing their dirty laundry to Oprah.

I think they would issue some nonsense uncoupling statement and how they will always remain a family. They’ve both got too much to lose if it turns nasty. The kids will pick a side and none of them have any other family left, so they won’t want to alienate their kids. That is until he has kids with a much younger woman…..

Harry has burned his bridges...I don't know that his family would welcome him back into the fold. They won't trust him ever again given the awful things he has said and done. I think it would be likely to be a very unpleasant divorce, neither strike me as having the emotional maturity to behave amicably

Sunblessed · 08/12/2024 17:19

The sad fact is, with KC, we really aren’t sure how his health is. So it’s not beyond the realms of possibility that William could be king within the next 10 years.

He wouldn’t have Harry anywhere near Royal property and Harry in effect will be written out the history books.

So Harry really can’t risk upsetting his kids. They’re all he has really.

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MayaKovskaya · 08/12/2024 17:23

TeaMistress · 08/12/2024 17:14

Harry has burned his bridges...I don't know that his family would welcome him back into the fold. They won't trust him ever again given the awful things he has said and done. I think it would be likely to be a very unpleasant divorce, neither strike me as having the emotional maturity to behave amicably

I would agree with this, based on their previous behaviour. Petty, vindictive, greedy, shallow.
We're not talking about mature resilient adults, here.

EdithWeston · 08/12/2024 17:49

ajandjjmum · 08/12/2024 17:12

I do wonder whether Harry has been advised to keep away from The Paley Award (or whatever it's called) due to the P. Diddy links, and has maybe heeded the advice and is currently living in the King's apartment in NY.

Pure supposition of course, but maybe he's seeing the light?

King's apartment?

If you mean the reports from July about a purchase, that was done by the Canadian government (and they use their King's name on official stuff) and it's inhabited by the Consul General.

Or is there another one as well?

headhonchoponcho · 08/12/2024 18:04

Wasnt there some questions when Andrew was being 'investigated' about why he didnt choose to apartment availabe to him (not sure if owned by HMTLQ or diplomatic service?) instead of Epsteins house?

Maybe thats where the idea has come from? But even if such a property existed - I doubt it would be offered to PH.

IcedPurple · 08/12/2024 18:07

headhonchoponcho · 08/12/2024 18:04

Wasnt there some questions when Andrew was being 'investigated' about why he didnt choose to apartment availabe to him (not sure if owned by HMTLQ or diplomatic service?) instead of Epsteins house?

Maybe thats where the idea has come from? But even if such a property existed - I doubt it would be offered to PH.

I thought the New York apartment which Andrew could have used belonged to the British consulate?

I agree that Harry probably would not be welcome there now.

headhonchoponcho · 08/12/2024 18:31

stripeyshutters · 08/12/2024 14:19

It's interesting that in the recent interview Harry says that he has dealt with all of it in therapy and he doesn't read what is written about him. I thought the host was excellent with his questions and didn't get sidetracked by happy jokey Harry and his carpets comments. He really nailed him and Harry was indeed foundering.

Yes Andrew Ross Sorkin was a very skilled interviewer of PH at the NYT DealBook Summit (its on YouTube). He tied him up in knots on his free speech vs SM censorship retoric. PH was really out of his depth intellectually and was at times quite flustered and even rude to ARS.

Quite amusing that he acknowledge he would be out of pocket but claimed to be the only one (of the 1300 victims who have settled) continuing with the court case as he was doing it for them - the other 1300......he's such a legend in his own lunchtime.

Another point he made was that he persuing the other security funding court case for 'reconciliation' reasons. Not heard him use that word before.

It was all very much a woe is me interview looking back again at his difficult childhood in the BRF.

When asked what he would want as his legacy in the next 30 years - he said to be remember as a good husband and good father.

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ajandjjmum · 08/12/2024 18:50

EdithWeston · 08/12/2024 17:49

King's apartment?

If you mean the reports from July about a purchase, that was done by the Canadian government (and they use their King's name on official stuff) and it's inhabited by the Consul General.

Or is there another one as well?

I didn't know it belonged to the Canadian Govt., I didn't read the detail hence my rather glib story! If that's the case, my thoughts are obviously totally wrong.

RubicsQuandary · 08/12/2024 19:00

headhonchoponcho · 08/12/2024 18:31

Yes Andrew Ross Sorkin was a very skilled interviewer of PH at the NYT DealBook Summit (its on YouTube). He tied him up in knots on his free speech vs SM censorship retoric. PH was really out of his depth intellectually and was at times quite flustered and even rude to ARS.

Quite amusing that he acknowledge he would be out of pocket but claimed to be the only one (of the 1300 victims who have settled) continuing with the court case as he was doing it for them - the other 1300......he's such a legend in his own lunchtime.

Another point he made was that he persuing the other security funding court case for 'reconciliation' reasons. Not heard him use that word before.

It was all very much a woe is me interview looking back again at his difficult childhood in the BRF.

When asked what he would want as his legacy in the next 30 years - he said to be remember as a good husband and good father.

Thanks for mentioning some key moments. I’m interested but can’t bring myself to watch it!

ThePoshUns · 08/12/2024 19:08

headhonchoponcho · 08/12/2024 18:04

Wasnt there some questions when Andrew was being 'investigated' about why he didnt choose to apartment availabe to him (not sure if owned by HMTLQ or diplomatic service?) instead of Epsteins house?

Maybe thats where the idea has come from? But even if such a property existed - I doubt it would be offered to PH.

It was the British Embassy apartments i bey

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