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Both Harry and Tyler talking about H&Ms marriage. Why?

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Sunblessed · 07/12/2024 09:57

Please note, this thread is to discuss the rumours surrounding Harry and Meghans marriage. For those posters who don’t like to speculate, this thread isnt for you.
Now with Harry discussing his marriage in public, on stage with the worlds media watching, then it’s fair comment to discuss such issues.

To my point! Why did both Harry and Tyler allow questions about the marriage and why did they both talk?

There’s always rumours about H&M, that’s nothing new. In these interviews that are requested, possible questions are talked about beforehand with their teams and anything off limits will be strictly outlined. Many celebs will have a strict policy on not discussing certain issues. It’s why we will never see Tom Cruise getting asked about Suri etc

So why oh why, was questions about their marriage/rumours allowed?

So at the Dealbook conference Harry was asked a question about H&M suddenly doing their events separately. Indeed, Harry’s appearance at Dealbook was a surprise when he was slated to appear at Tyler Perrys award months ago.

Question:

There's articles left and right about, you know, 'Why are you doing independent events? Why aren't you doing them together?'" Sorkin said. "Is that a good thing for you, in a way, that there's so much interest in you?"

Harry reflected that the media speculation is "definitely not a good thing," adding: "We've apparently divorced maybe 10, 12 times as well. So, it's just like, what?"

So Harry and his team allowed a question about the rumours of their separation and thrn Harry took it even further by actually talking about divorce rumours, when the interviewer said no such thing.

Theres rumours all the time about their marriage. Remember last year when the Sun had an article that he had a hotel room on standby at a nearby hotel? He didn’t come out then and talk about those rumours. Yet, talk of their separation seems to have upset them this time that they’ve felt the need to talk about it. This wouldn’t have been done without Meghan approval either

Which brings me to Tyler. He gave an exclusive interview to E! Where he again, talks about Harry and Meghan relationship:

"They love each other," Tyler told E! News at the Paley Honors Fall Gala, where he was honored with the prestigious Paley Honors award. "They have a beautiful family and I just want the best for them."

Tyler giving an exclusive interview would not have allowed a question on the couple unless it had been ok’d. What we don’t see in the E! Article is what question he was asked to give that somewhat odd reply. Was he asked if they’ve split? Was he asked why Harry didn’t appear with Meghan? Who knows! But it must have been a something questioning their relationship to give out an answer like that. A answer which makes the relationship look like it’s in trouble by saying he wants the best for them. Why did he allow that question in an exclusive interview?

I think it’s because M&H have been rattled by the rumours and annoyed that people have picked up upon him bailing from the Tyler Perry awards and not having been pictured with his wife in months. So they’ve allowed these questions to try and bat away the rumours.

But Tyler saying they love each other and he wants the best for them is hardly a ringing endorsement, it actually sounds more like he’s rooting for them to pull through.

Harry never shuts down the split rumours either, he just laments the press (even though it isn’t the press) for stating he’s been divorced 10/12 times. He doesn’t actually say something like- yes, we’re really focusing on our individual projects right now, busy trying to get as much done as possible and separating projects has allowed us to do that. But rumours about a marriage split are completely wrong and untrue.

So H&M PR have told them to quash the rumours this week, because it looks like they were rattled. Which only leads you then to think, that it’s probably true. They probably are going through something right now.

You don’t make your whole brand about your partnership, then suddenly start doing separate projects and not being seen together in public. Something has gone wrong in the previous approach for them to come up with the conclusion that they can’t be seen together. That he won’t be seen with his wife.

My feelings are that they are taking time out and a step back from the intensity of the last few years. Not necessarily a spilt, but they in their personal lives as well as professional, are trying to work out who they are and what’s their direction. They became enmeshed with each other and that isn’t healthy. They’ve relied on each other too much because both have abandoned their families. It’s not really all that surprising when we know the couple have struggled with poor mental health. It was only 5 years ago meghan was having suicidal thoughts and Harry’s troubles are well known.

So all these rumours have hid a nerve I’d say. I think they really need to step away from the limelight and retreat. Because it looks like it’s going to cost them their relationship.

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Mylovelygreendress · 09/12/2024 14:02

Hmm the lifestyle brand isn’t doing too well !

Thoughtsareswirling · 09/12/2024 14:09

Sunblessed · 09/12/2024 13:53

I still don’t know how they manage to maintain their lifestyle now to be honest.

Im guessing they are worth around 40 million. I don’t believe the Netflix money means they would pocket 100mill. I think that would be a potential contract worth up to a max, if everything was commissioned and that money would have to cover all production costs etc.

But for nearly 5 years they’ve been paying millions in security costs. There’s no way he’s going to win his security case against the Gov and get them to reverse its decision. He’s doing it for public sympathy and to try and get daddy to stump up.

They are going to have to substantially change their approach to their security or they will run out of cash. I would think, all in, their costs a year for everything (mortgage, utilities, schooling, cars, staff, security) must run between 3-5 million a year.

They aren’t going to be able to reliably earn that sort of cash for decades to come. So they will be dipping into that cash already made, that only gives them 10 years at the rate they’re going at now.

They need to realise this is it. This is the most amount of money they will make and try to preserve it as much as possible. I think their security will be watered down in a couple of years and they will use the excuse that the US is so much safer than Salty Island and this has allowed them reduced their security and regain their freedom. But it will be to save costs.

I think Harry could live a quieter life in NY and live as a bachelor again. Meghan would keep the montceito home and the kids and keep at it with the lifestyle brand. Harry would visit the kids every couple of weeks.

Why on earth does Meghan need an enormous mansion for just herself and the children though?

MayaKovskaya · 09/12/2024 14:10

Thoughtsareswirling · 09/12/2024 14:09

Why on earth does Meghan need an enormous mansion for just herself and the children though?

Status

IcedPurple · 09/12/2024 14:13

Sunblessed · 09/12/2024 13:53

I still don’t know how they manage to maintain their lifestyle now to be honest.

Im guessing they are worth around 40 million. I don’t believe the Netflix money means they would pocket 100mill. I think that would be a potential contract worth up to a max, if everything was commissioned and that money would have to cover all production costs etc.

But for nearly 5 years they’ve been paying millions in security costs. There’s no way he’s going to win his security case against the Gov and get them to reverse its decision. He’s doing it for public sympathy and to try and get daddy to stump up.

They are going to have to substantially change their approach to their security or they will run out of cash. I would think, all in, their costs a year for everything (mortgage, utilities, schooling, cars, staff, security) must run between 3-5 million a year.

They aren’t going to be able to reliably earn that sort of cash for decades to come. So they will be dipping into that cash already made, that only gives them 10 years at the rate they’re going at now.

They need to realise this is it. This is the most amount of money they will make and try to preserve it as much as possible. I think their security will be watered down in a couple of years and they will use the excuse that the US is so much safer than Salty Island and this has allowed them reduced their security and regain their freedom. But it will be to save costs.

I think Harry could live a quieter life in NY and live as a bachelor again. Meghan would keep the montceito home and the kids and keep at it with the lifestyle brand. Harry would visit the kids every couple of weeks.

How much security do they actually need?

He's 5th in line and has no official role. She's a minor actress whose only real claim to fame is marriage to him. Of course none of us know what threats there may be against them but that's true for anyone. On the face of it, they don't have the profile which would necessitate high level security. I agree that RAVEC are almost certainly not going to alter their arrangements for Harry, which seem to me more than fair and reasonable.

I think the whole 'security' obsession has more to do with ego and status than actual threats.

Mylovelygreendress · 09/12/2024 14:24

IcedPurple · 09/12/2024 14:13

How much security do they actually need?

He's 5th in line and has no official role. She's a minor actress whose only real claim to fame is marriage to him. Of course none of us know what threats there may be against them but that's true for anyone. On the face of it, they don't have the profile which would necessitate high level security. I agree that RAVEC are almost certainly not going to alter their arrangements for Harry, which seem to me more than fair and reasonable.

I think the whole 'security' obsession has more to do with ego and status than actual threats.

I agree . The current Earl of Snowdon was once 5th in the LOS and now 25th. As the Wales children have families , Harry will slip further and further down the line into virtual obscurity.
I can’t decide whether he just doesn’t understand the situation or is so full of jealousy for his brother that he is determined to have the same status for himself and family .
A bit like Andrew who insisted on his children being Princesses and wanted them to be working royals with 24/7 security.

Sunblessed · 09/12/2024 14:33

No the brand isn’t doing well and I can’t see things getting much better in 2025

2024 has been a terrible year for them:

  • next to no Netflix output. POLO only out tomorrow
  • no effort to continue the podcast
  • ARO trying to launch but never happened. TM rejected
  • Harrys court cases not going well
  • comedown in prestigious events. Meghan now walks the same LA red carpets as she did 10 years ago.
  • persistent rumours about their marriage because they are now separating events and haven’t been photographed in months
  • US news articles outlining Meghans bully behaviour

What do we predict for 2025? :

  • Harry continuing to make a fool of himself with these court cases. One starts on Jan. The gov appeal in August
  • Will there be a tv lifestyle cooking show? It will be a one series production though.
  • Netflix will end in Sept. They will close down the Archewell production arm. It will be termed a ‘mutual decision’ but we all know Netflix got their story so are now done. Maybe potential for more bullying allegations to emerge from this?
  • ARO wont launch because they won’t get a TM. But maybe a new brand will emerge?
  • Continued marriage rumours because they will continue to not be photographed together. Harry will spend an increasing amount of time away from home adding fuel. He will barely be there.
  • more sexy red carpets and odd behaviour on them from Meghan. How her whopping when photographed at the LA children’s event wasn’t picked up by the papers I don’t know. She looked drunk. I’ve always wondered about her drinking.
  • Meghan friendly PR but not couple PR in their fav news outlets like People etc
  • Invictus 2025, will meghan be there? It’s been said she will. If she doesn’t, its def over.

2025 will be a repeat of 2024 I think. Just another slow year, their careers dying a slow death and more marriage rumours.

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Sunblessed · 09/12/2024 14:48

Not a wish list darling, it’s a prediction. I suspect a pretty accurate one.

What lovely manners you have though.

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Baital · 09/12/2024 14:56

Yes, I suspect more of the same.

Attempts to Prince on the world stage for Harry. Random popping up on red carpets to 'support friends/empower little people' for Meghan.

Various teasers in friendly tabloids about how they are working on unspecified exciting new projects that can shortly be revealed.

Baital · 09/12/2024 15:02

My wish for them would be that they make peace with having discovered that their talents don't match their ambitions, and enjoy their very privileged life with their young children.

Sunblessed · 09/12/2024 15:09

True, they don’t realise how lucky they are. Wealth beyond the dreams of many. Beautiful home and weather. Two healthy kids. You’d think they’d wake up one day and realise they’re only screwing themselves over with the way they chose to live their lives in the media.

Take a step back and live a quiet and private life. That’s what they need to do.

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Thoughtsareswirling · 09/12/2024 15:17

Sunblessed · 09/12/2024 14:33

No the brand isn’t doing well and I can’t see things getting much better in 2025

2024 has been a terrible year for them:

  • next to no Netflix output. POLO only out tomorrow
  • no effort to continue the podcast
  • ARO trying to launch but never happened. TM rejected
  • Harrys court cases not going well
  • comedown in prestigious events. Meghan now walks the same LA red carpets as she did 10 years ago.
  • persistent rumours about their marriage because they are now separating events and haven’t been photographed in months
  • US news articles outlining Meghans bully behaviour

What do we predict for 2025? :

  • Harry continuing to make a fool of himself with these court cases. One starts on Jan. The gov appeal in August
  • Will there be a tv lifestyle cooking show? It will be a one series production though.
  • Netflix will end in Sept. They will close down the Archewell production arm. It will be termed a ‘mutual decision’ but we all know Netflix got their story so are now done. Maybe potential for more bullying allegations to emerge from this?
  • ARO wont launch because they won’t get a TM. But maybe a new brand will emerge?
  • Continued marriage rumours because they will continue to not be photographed together. Harry will spend an increasing amount of time away from home adding fuel. He will barely be there.
  • more sexy red carpets and odd behaviour on them from Meghan. How her whopping when photographed at the LA children’s event wasn’t picked up by the papers I don’t know. She looked drunk. I’ve always wondered about her drinking.
  • Meghan friendly PR but not couple PR in their fav news outlets like People etc
  • Invictus 2025, will meghan be there? It’s been said she will. If she doesn’t, its def over.

2025 will be a repeat of 2024 I think. Just another slow year, their careers dying a slow death and more marriage rumours.

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Agree with all this. I think M being photographed in a back alley at the Tyler Perry thing was a new low.

Rhaidimiddim · 09/12/2024 15:57

Baital · 09/12/2024 14:56

Yes, I suspect more of the same.

Attempts to Prince on the world stage for Harry. Random popping up on red carpets to 'support friends/empower little people' for Meghan.

Various teasers in friendly tabloids about how they are working on unspecified exciting new projects that can shortly be revealed.

Lots of events at schools, communal kitchens, women's spaces to provide photo ops for M; and fewer and fewer conference gigs.

Slightly more than 2 hours a week for both of them dealing with the Archewell tax delinquency thing and the missing millions.

Rumours of "them" buying a pied-a-terre in NY.

Sunblessed · 09/12/2024 16:06

Good prediction @Rhaidimiddim rumours that they buying a property in NY, I can see that

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cavea · 09/12/2024 16:18

on one of those reality property shows in NY. an agent was showing around a lawyer who was viewing property on behalf of clients, who wanted to remain private, He would give nothing away, not even how many kids they had. The apartment they wanted had to have lots of privacy, private elevator etc. . Afterwards when the agents were having a drink together, they were speculating if it was H&M.

Thoughtsareswirling · 09/12/2024 16:22

Rhaidimiddim · 09/12/2024 15:57

Lots of events at schools, communal kitchens, women's spaces to provide photo ops for M; and fewer and fewer conference gigs.

Slightly more than 2 hours a week for both of them dealing with the Archewell tax delinquency thing and the missing millions.

Rumours of "them" buying a pied-a-terre in NY.

I would have thought that living in NY would be ideal for them. Celebrities are two a penny there and they wouldn’t be of much interest when out and about . There would also be a large choice of schools and activities , and easy to get places.

Rhaidimiddim · 09/12/2024 16:34

Thoughtsareswirling · 09/12/2024 16:22

I would have thought that living in NY would be ideal for them. Celebrities are two a penny there and they wouldn’t be of much interest when out and about . There would also be a large choice of schools and activities , and easy to get places.

But they got high-speed-car-chased there.

Sunblessed · 09/12/2024 16:37

Thoughtsareswirling · 09/12/2024 16:22

I would have thought that living in NY would be ideal for them. Celebrities are two a penny there and they wouldn’t be of much interest when out and about . There would also be a large choice of schools and activities , and easy to get places.

Plus Harry always states that it was his mothers intention to move to NY.

It clearly wasn’t, not that Harry ever lets facts get in the way of a good story

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Mylovelygreendress · 09/12/2024 16:41

What about the house in Portugal ?

Sunblessed · 09/12/2024 16:43

Rhaidimiddim · 09/12/2024 16:34

But they got high-speed-car-chased there.

And that lie got him NYPD police outriders.
maybe another reason why he wants to move?

Does he get that in LA?

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Sunblessed · 09/12/2024 16:52

Another prediction:

  • There won’t be any schmoozing JayZ and Bey at the Lion king 2 premiere 😂
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MayaKovskaya · 09/12/2024 16:53

Sunblessed · 09/12/2024 16:52

Another prediction:

  • There won’t be any schmoozing JayZ and Bey at the Lion king 2 premiere 😂

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