Both Harry and Tyler talking about H&Ms marriage. Why?

[Sunblessed]

Please note, this thread is to discuss the rumours surrounding Harry and Meghans marriage. For those posters who don’t like to speculate, this thread isnt for you.
Now with Harry discussing his marriage in public, on stage with the worlds media watching, then it’s fair comment to discuss such issues.

To my point! Why did both Harry and Tyler allow questions about the marriage and why did they both talk?

There’s always rumours about H&M, that’s nothing new. In these interviews that are requested, possible questions are talked about beforehand with their teams and anything off limits will be strictly outlined. Many celebs will have a strict policy on not discussing certain issues. It’s why we will never see Tom Cruise getting asked about Suri etc

So why oh why, was questions about their marriage/rumours allowed?

So at the Dealbook conference Harry was asked a question about H&M suddenly doing their events separately. Indeed, Harry’s appearance at Dealbook was a surprise when he was slated to appear at Tyler Perrys award months ago.

Question:

There's articles left and right about, you know, 'Why are you doing independent events? Why aren't you doing them together?'" Sorkin said. "Is that a good thing for you, in a way, that there's so much interest in you?"

Harry reflected that the media speculation is "definitely not a good thing," adding: "We've apparently divorced maybe 10, 12 times as well. So, it's just like, what?"

So Harry and his team allowed a question about the rumours of their separation and thrn Harry took it even further by actually talking about divorce rumours, when the interviewer said no such thing.

Theres rumours all the time about their marriage. Remember last year when the Sun had an article that he had a hotel room on standby at a nearby hotel? He didn’t come out then and talk about those rumours. Yet, talk of their separation seems to have upset them this time that they’ve felt the need to talk about it. This wouldn’t have been done without Meghan approval either

Which brings me to Tyler. He gave an exclusive interview to E! Where he again, talks about Harry and Meghan relationship:

"They love each other," Tyler told E! News at the Paley Honors Fall Gala, where he was honored with the prestigious Paley Honors award. "They have a beautiful family and I just want the best for them."

Tyler giving an exclusive interview would not have allowed a question on the couple unless it had been ok’d. What we don’t see in the E! Article is what question he was asked to give that somewhat odd reply. Was he asked if they’ve split? Was he asked why Harry didn’t appear with Meghan? Who knows! But it must have been a something questioning their relationship to give out an answer like that. A answer which makes the relationship look like it’s in trouble by saying he wants the best for them. Why did he allow that question in an exclusive interview?

I think it’s because M&H have been rattled by the rumours and annoyed that people have picked up upon him bailing from the Tyler Perry awards and not having been pictured with his wife in months. So they’ve allowed these questions to try and bat away the rumours.

But Tyler saying they love each other and he wants the best for them is hardly a ringing endorsement, it actually sounds more like he’s rooting for them to pull through.

Harry never shuts down the split rumours either, he just laments the press (even though it isn’t the press) for stating he’s been divorced 10/12 times. He doesn’t actually say something like- yes, we’re really focusing on our individual projects right now, busy trying to get as much done as possible and separating projects has allowed us to do that. But rumours about a marriage split are completely wrong and untrue.

So H&M PR have told them to quash the rumours this week, because it looks like they were rattled. Which only leads you then to think, that it’s probably true. They probably are going through something right now.

You don’t make your whole brand about your partnership, then suddenly start doing separate projects and not being seen together in public. Something has gone wrong in the previous approach for them to come up with the conclusion that they can’t be seen together. That he won’t be seen with his wife.

My feelings are that they are taking time out and a step back from the intensity of the last few years. Not necessarily a spilt, but they in their personal lives as well as professional, are trying to work out who they are and what’s their direction. They became enmeshed with each other and that isn’t healthy. They’ve relied on each other too much because both have abandoned their families. It’s not really all that surprising when we know the couple have struggled with poor mental health. It was only 5 years ago meghan was having suicidal thoughts and Harry’s troubles are well known.

So all these rumours have hid a nerve I’d say. I think they really need to step away from the limelight and retreat. Because it looks like it’s going to cost them their relationship.

yes, maybe

I think when William and Harry were younger though, they were both pretty wild. I really don’t think there was much discipline at all, the protection officers were babysitters at times but would never be able to tell them off.

Would be interesting to see what meghan n Harry’s approach to discipline is. I suspect gentle parenting and talking to them in mangled word salad would be their approach.

I suppose it would depend on the terms of the contract but as 'Spare' was published almost two years ago and the heavily delayed paperback was published with no new material maybe it was on a piece by piece basis?

My view is either the publishers got their greedy fingers burnt and activated an escape clause or Harold paid a penalty fee to release himself from the deal (although such a scenario is highly likely to have been leaked or at least rumoured by now).

Why can't they just tell us?!

I think the children (yes, they are real), should be off limits and should have privacy and protection. However, as pp have said, they appeared in the Netflix documentary (Archie was in the bath) and Lilibet's 1st birthday picture was released. However, that's parental choice and it hasn't happened recently.
The account of the birth in Spare was very odd, it doesn't mean that there wasn't a baby, more that Harry is an unreliable narrator of his own experiences. Plus, he claimed he was high.

I actually think the opposite.

Harry idolises his mother and has elevated her to sainthood in his eyes. He had from her a model of an acrimonious divorce, with mud slinging and tell all interviews - and he's already followed in her footsteps with the various interviews he's done - and Spare of course. He lashes out publicly at anyone he feels has wronged him.

I just can't see him having the emotional maturity to realise that behaviour is unacceptable, and indeed it would require some level of introspection and self awareness that I don't think he possesses.

Meghan I think wouldn't care either - I think she cares purely about her own self image, and would absolutely take advantage of the opportunity to paint herself as a victim.

What on earth was Harry thinking telling that birth story? How to support your wife in her first pregnancy? Making him a jokey bloke? I hope he's embarrassed by it now preaching about responsible parenthood.

@elessar

I see what you mean. Harry is clearly still unwell, I mean he’s a middle-aged man who frequently talks about his dead mother. That’s not a person who in mind or spirit, is healthy.

I do think there could be some sort of or PR war but I don’t think he would do the teary interview. Meghan….I think she would potentially over a number of interviews over a numbers of years: allude to and invite others to infer about issues. Like she did in the Oprah interview and the Cut interview. She wouldnt explicitly say anything but she would stir things up by not shutting rumours down or planting words in others mouths

I mean bran n Ange’s divorce is a very nasty one but they’ve never publicly sat down to do an interview about it.

I agree with this.

PH is impulsive and vexatious - he could be an emotionally dysregulated loose cannon unless he has good people around him to point out the medium term consequences. He would do it in anger and self rightous indignation - but I dont think money wouldbe his goal. He has loads of inherited wealth which would likley be bound in trusts for the bloodline and away from any divorce settlement.

MM would need the cash and is very susceptable to the grooming of the commercial entertainment industry sharks (who IMHO have been circling for years) who would make $$$$ from a cut of a book, interview, film etc.

I believe she is delusional and grandiose enough to believe she could deliver a sensitive narrative (very demure, very mindful) where she is painted the stoic victim while still collecting the cash.

It really was one of the most awful birth stories, wasn't it? Selfish, idiotic, disrespectful and showing an astonishing lack of self awareness. If that had been my husband, there would not have been another baby!

But hey! If it turns into the war of the Roses and public spats….I promise I’ll be the first to create a thread about 😂

I dont think it would be locking horns and public mud slinging.......PH could easily be provoked though and unravel in any interview situation. I suspect MM would not get in his way and sit back and let him make a fool of himself - as this would just underscore any potential victim narrative that she had to hawk. And I agree she would do this in a 'under the radar' way as OP suggest.....but she will have a price and no doubt she will be doing the sums to calculate max ROI.

I watched the first part of the Andrew Ross Sorkin interview with Harry, gosh he really plays into the cheeky Horray Henry thing which worked for him when he was 17. It was tiresome, I couldn't watch to end, so I missed the part where he was challenged on where he stood on free speech. I agree with the previous poster, he really can't get his point across in any intellectual manner. If you put it on mute, you would think Harry was playing a game of charades with all the hand shapes he was making,

What is interesting is there were only 50k views of the video as of last night, despite all the media attention specifically around Harry's comments about his marriage.

Just imagine if Harry had been the firstborn. What an absolute shit show that would have been.

If they divorce ( and I hope they don’t as there are 2 young children) , I reckon the Royal lawyers will draw up a watertight agreement. Meghan will want to keep her title and as much money as possible so might be restricted with what she can say.

But isn’t it if she divorces it will be Meghan, The Duchess of Sussex but she won’t be The Duchess of Sussex. That’s reserved for the wife of Harry.

I mean it makes no sense to me- still says Duchess of Sussex in the title but I think she’s still allowed to call herself that anyway?

Could be wrong

I wonder if that’s why Harry disappeared after his visit to S Africa for a while. Meetings with lawyers perhaps .Would Royal lawyers be used? I doubt it. If so it’s a bit off to expect the tax payers to pick up his legal bills.. again.

No, that's correct.

I suspect these were already drawn up - in the event of a divorce - in a pre-nup.

I think they will divorce but not until the children are teenagers, until then they will just do a Will and Jada and play happy families which we will see at Invictus in February, no way is Meghan giving that gig up, it’s all hers now.

I don’t think there will be a pre- nup . Harry was absolutely determined to marry Meghan so I can’t see him agreeing plus Meghan made that veiled threat about never signing anything.

Pre-nups aren't valid in the UK, from what I understand.

And as signing one would have contradicted the 'greatest love story of all time' I doubt it would have been acceptable to the couple.

Maybe a pre-nup wasnt actually necessary as all his cash / assets are already tied up in complex RF trusts so not at risk in the first place. He didnt own any property and had an allowance which eventually stopped. Inheritances from his DM, GGM (HMTLQ?) might well have caveats with protection from divorce.

Sarah Fergusen and Diana didnt get a hefty settlement.

The only stuff to split would be what they generated in the marriage. Did KC pay or loan for the Monecito house?

I expect that family wealth is held in trusts, that's fairly standard for HNW families and people.

What happens to those trusts in cases of divorce I don't know.

Depends if they can afford to bankroll that situation financially and emotionally for the next 10-15 years.

MM might get a more lucrative offer and move on rapidly (this is her pattern in the past).

She might go it alone if PH unravels and his antics tarnish her brand and earning power.

It will be interesting to watch the activities of Archwell if this expands or is mothballed....that might indicate how collaborative they are IRL behind the scenes.

A quick Google - several different (UK) sites suggest... it depends 😂

When the Trust was set up, the conditions/ intentions /details of the Trust.

The UK courts can vary a trust and transfer assets, if they see it as 'fair' in each specific case. What if the divorce takes place outside the UK? No idea!

I still don’t know how they manage to maintain their lifestyle now to be honest.

Im guessing they are worth around 40 million. I don’t believe the Netflix money means they would pocket 100mill. I think that would be a potential contract worth up to a max, if everything was commissioned and that money would have to cover all production costs etc.

But for nearly 5 years they’ve been paying millions in security costs. There’s no way he’s going to win his security case against the Gov and get them to reverse its decision. He’s doing it for public sympathy and to try and get daddy to stump up.

They are going to have to substantially change their approach to their security or they will run out of cash. I would think, all in, their costs a year for everything (mortgage, utilities, schooling, cars, staff, security) must run between 3-5 million a year.

They aren’t going to be able to reliably earn that sort of cash for decades to come. So they will be dipping into that cash already made, that only gives them 10 years at the rate they’re going at now.

They need to realise this is it. This is the most amount of money they will make and try to preserve it as much as possible. I think their security will be watered down in a couple of years and they will use the excuse that the US is so much safer than Salty Island and this has allowed them reduced their security and regain their freedom. But it will be to save costs.

I think Harry could live a quieter life in NY and live as a bachelor again. Meghan would keep the montceito home and the kids and keep at it with the lifestyle brand. Harry would visit the kids every couple of weeks.