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What does a Trump administration mean for H&M?

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Twistybranch · 06/11/2024 15:49

What will this new era usher in for Harry and Meghan?

I don’t think it will have any impact on his visa status ….but I think they may reign in their war against SM, especially if Musk is anywhere near the white house.

Harry will have to think before he speaks about the American constitution, didn’t he say the first amendment was “bonkers” ?

I think they may move away from this angle of their work and concentrate their efforts elsewhere.

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CathyorClaire · 06/11/2024 16:35

The Donald hasn't been particularly impressed with Henry so I think there's a reasonable chance the Visa application will be revisited and a way found to make the results public.

Henry's unlikely to be deported if he's proved to have lied because the diplomatic fallout would be too intense but The Donald along with the rest of us might sit back and enjoy the show.

Maybe they will concentrate their efforts elsewhere though when they only work an hour a week I'm not sure how effective any change of direction might be.

Itoldyousoo · 06/11/2024 16:53

Eric has said previously that Harry isn't important enough to bother with but who knows. I guess though he might have to watch his mouth a bit.

Rhaidimiddim · 06/11/2024 17:09

It could provide them with new relevance. And a new target, spearheading anti-Trump resistance (or whatever you want to call it). Since they have both been publicly called out by Trump in the past, they have standing in this regard.

Obviously H's status as a resident and his visa application problems might give them pause.

BarbaraHoward · 06/11/2024 17:12

I wouldn't have thought it will mean anything for them at all, aside from being concerned citizens/residents.

OneTealSloth · 06/11/2024 17:47

Eh, Melanie Trump’s own visa history is dodgy (Einstein visa?). I doubt he will touch Harry’s, he’ll make all sorts of threats but I don’t see any actual action.

OneTealSloth · 06/11/2024 17:50

CathyorClaire · 06/11/2024 16:35

The Donald hasn't been particularly impressed with Henry so I think there's a reasonable chance the Visa application will be revisited and a way found to make the results public.

Henry's unlikely to be deported if he's proved to have lied because the diplomatic fallout would be too intense but The Donald along with the rest of us might sit back and enjoy the show.

Maybe they will concentrate their efforts elsewhere though when they only work an hour a week I'm not sure how effective any change of direction might be.

If Harry lied, he’d have lied multiple times lol, he travelled more than a few times to the States.

Particularly during the “wild years”, plenty of people would have questions to answer.

The Trump admin handled his visa when he moved to the US anyway, I’d like to see how that pans out.

Pineapplesandthegovernmentandpunkrock · 06/11/2024 19:01

OneTealSloth · 06/11/2024 17:47

Eh, Melanie Trump’s own visa history is dodgy (Einstein visa?). I doubt he will touch Harry’s, he’ll make all sorts of threats but I don’t see any actual action.

But the salient issue is that her visa status wasn't covered up by DHS, following intervention from the current administration (nor that of her mother, which the Heritage Foundation was able to obtain through a FOI). And she is arguably, as a First Lady, more important from a security/privacy point of view than a layabout foreign prince.

Sayitagainmyl · 06/11/2024 19:09

Of all the the things to concern you following this egregious outcome: not climate policy and the threat to the environment, not international politics, relations and development, not further inequalities fuelled by racism, sexism and state endorsement, not global security – or rather insecurity. No! Some people need another excuse to discuss H&M. I despair! The functioning of the White House is not the only thing to be unstable.

MiscellaneousSupportHuman · 06/11/2024 19:15

Sayitagainmyl · 06/11/2024 19:09

Of all the the things to concern you following this egregious outcome: not climate policy and the threat to the environment, not international politics, relations and development, not further inequalities fuelled by racism, sexism and state endorsement, not global security – or rather insecurity. No! Some people need another excuse to discuss H&M. I despair! The functioning of the White House is not the only thing to be unstable.

This is the RF topic! Of course this is an angle that's talked about here.

If you want to talk about the environment, then try the Climate Change topic, for the others try Politics or In The News - and right now all over chat and AIBU. And you might just spot familiar usernames on those very threads - as it's really not unusual to be able to handle multiple angles.

Twistybranch · 06/11/2024 19:22

Sayitagainmyl · 06/11/2024 19:09

Of all the the things to concern you following this egregious outcome: not climate policy and the threat to the environment, not international politics, relations and development, not further inequalities fuelled by racism, sexism and state endorsement, not global security – or rather insecurity. No! Some people need another excuse to discuss H&M. I despair! The functioning of the White House is not the only thing to be unstable.

Including yourself. Thank you for the contribution to the thread

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Thedom · 06/11/2024 19:30

Trump is such a loose cannon, who knows what could piss him off about either one of them at any time.

I think he does have a lot of regard for the Royal Family, so that will likely protect Harry somewhat. He has previously made negative comments about H&M, but if Harrys' visa situation is something he gets a bee in his bonnet about, he is liable to spout a load of hyperbole which would really be risky for H&M with so many crazy MAGA supporters hanging on to Trumps every word.

If that did happen, I think they would be reconsidering how unsafe the UK is after all.

Pineapplesandthegovernmentandpunkrock · 06/11/2024 19:30

Sayitagainmyl · 06/11/2024 19:09

Of all the the things to concern you following this egregious outcome: not climate policy and the threat to the environment, not international politics, relations and development, not further inequalities fuelled by racism, sexism and state endorsement, not global security – or rather insecurity. No! Some people need another excuse to discuss H&M. I despair! The functioning of the White House is not the only thing to be unstable.

How rude. This is part of a long running discussion relevant to this board about a legal case that has made international headlines. The incumbent and incoming administrations are very relevant to the case, since there is evidence that the former intervened in the case, and that may lead to its re-opening. And it's part of a greater discussion and growing body of evidence about abuses of power by US government bodies to give extraordinary visa privileges to the wealthy and influential, including those guilty of crimes in other countries.

Rhaidimiddim · 06/11/2024 19:41

Sayitagainmyl · 06/11/2024 19:09

Of all the the things to concern you following this egregious outcome: not climate policy and the threat to the environment, not international politics, relations and development, not further inequalities fuelled by racism, sexism and state endorsement, not global security – or rather insecurity. No! Some people need another excuse to discuss H&M. I despair! The functioning of the White House is not the only thing to be unstable.

Perhaps I have a particularly poorly-developed brain. Because I can worry about all those things and still spare a bit of attention for the plight of Harry.

Personally, I don't understand how people with well- developed brains unlike mine can find the time to stop by here to scold us gossips when there are all.those petitions to draft, flyers to send out, protest meetings to organise....

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Vitriolinsanity · 06/11/2024 19:46

Time to start learning Portuguese.

CathyorClaire · 06/11/2024 20:04

Time to start learning Portuguese.

😆

We'll just have to hope Captain Tequila has sold them something a bit more substantial than a dream and a plot 😁

Dearg · 06/11/2024 20:13

I cannot imagine Trump really cares about Harry. But , if HThe gloves come off, as a convicted felon, Trump should be denied access to the UK.

MiscellaneousSupportHuman · 06/11/2024 22:52

Dearg · 06/11/2024 20:13

I cannot imagine Trump really cares about Harry. But , if HThe gloves come off, as a convicted felon, Trump should be denied access to the UK.

Whilst Head of State, we'd ignore the personal record and respect the office.

After that, it depends. He'd be entitled to British nationality be descent, wouldn't he? His mother was born British in Scotland. So I think he could get a British passport based on birth entitlement (and I don't think that has either a good character or residency conditions)

And there are very few crimes for which you can have your British nationality removed (providing that does not leave you stateless). Terrorism offences ans acting for the enemy in times of war are the only ones I can think of

OneTealSloth · 07/11/2024 06:48

Pineapplesandthegovernmentandpunkrock · 06/11/2024 19:01

But the salient issue is that her visa status wasn't covered up by DHS, following intervention from the current administration (nor that of her mother, which the Heritage Foundation was able to obtain through a FOI). And she is arguably, as a First Lady, more important from a security/privacy point of view than a layabout foreign prince.

They were able to obtain Melania’s mother’s records because she is DEAD. Every living person is entitled to privacy when it comes to such records. I could file a FOI request for Elon Musk (another dodgy one alleged to have lied about working under a student visa) and the DHS would put up the same fight. As they should, this is not “covering up”.

OneTealSloth · 07/11/2024 06:52

Also @Pineapplesandthegovernmentandpunkrock visa status and access to immigration applications are not the same thing. If the Heritage foundation cares so much about drug use and the truth, where are the requests for the prolific Brit druggies who lived part time in the States? Ozzy Osborne cones to mind, there are a few others.

Twistybranch · 07/11/2024 07:30

Urgh, we’ve got the visa expert on here who also doubles up as the Trademark patent expert. Tiresome

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OneTealSloth · 07/11/2024 07:54

Twistybranch · 07/11/2024 07:30

Urgh, we’ve got the visa expert on here who also doubles up as the Trademark patent expert. Tiresome

Where have I claimed expertise? You asked what the Trump admin would mean for H&M and I gave my thoughts. It seems that any response not damning H&M is tiresome to you.

Twistybranch · 07/11/2024 08:03

It’s tiresome when you constantly quote people with a deliberately contrary view.

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Mylovelygreendress · 07/11/2024 11:11

Trump was a huge admirer of the late Queen Elizabeth and has said he was angry about Megxit . He also said Meghan was nasty ( yes , pot, kettle etc) but I am sure he has more pressing concerns at the moment .
H and M meanwhile are uncharacteristically quiet ; I really expected some announcement/ visit/ pap walk whilst William was at Earthshot .

Twistybranch · 07/11/2024 12:50

https://archive.ph/gEtxb

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/royals/article-14053545/RICHARD-EDEN-Harry-Meghans-return-Trump-deportation.html

So I don’t think Harry believes he will be deported but I do think he will be more mindful of his comments made against his family, the US or anything to do with SM.

He’s had free reign the last 4 years knowing, nobody would do anything or say anything in the US. Mainly because they don’t care…at all. But Trump shouts his mouth off about anything and everything if it gets him headlines. Now he’s president elect….people will listen more. We know what he thinks of Harry n Meghan.

If Harry spouts off about the first amendment this time…Trump would be all over it. And Musk.

Weirdly, I could see Bobby Kennedy liking him….a renegade in the family dynasty, embarrassing family with the nonsense they say and how they behave, into psychedelics, alternative medicine etc

However, I suspect a quiet few years from Harry n Meghan in terms of their opinions they feel they need to share with the world. Best behaviour and all that!!!

Harry 'fears being deported by Trump'

When I disclosed last month that the Duke and Duchess of Sussex had bought a home on the coast of Portugal, the reasons behind the purchase remained shrouded in mystery.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/royals/article-14053545/RICHARD-EDEN-Harry-Meghans-return-Trump-deportation.html

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OneTealSloth · 07/11/2024 12:59

Twistybranch · 07/11/2024 12:50

https://archive.ph/gEtxb

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/royals/article-14053545/RICHARD-EDEN-Harry-Meghans-return-Trump-deportation.html

So I don’t think Harry believes he will be deported but I do think he will be more mindful of his comments made against his family, the US or anything to do with SM.

He’s had free reign the last 4 years knowing, nobody would do anything or say anything in the US. Mainly because they don’t care…at all. But Trump shouts his mouth off about anything and everything if it gets him headlines. Now he’s president elect….people will listen more. We know what he thinks of Harry n Meghan.

If Harry spouts off about the first amendment this time…Trump would be all over it. And Musk.

Weirdly, I could see Bobby Kennedy liking him….a renegade in the family dynasty, embarrassing family with the nonsense they say and how they behave, into psychedelics, alternative medicine etc

However, I suspect a quiet few years from Harry n Meghan in terms of their opinions they feel they need to share with the world. Best behaviour and all that!!!

As if Harry is telling the DM his fears lol

Everybody knows Trump hates Harry and Meghan, he’s called Meghan a nasty woman before. I need you lot to be serious 😂

Harry is a free man. The way some people fantasise about all kinds of nonsense happening to them or H&M feeling a type of way is funny.