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What does a Trump administration mean for H&M?

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Twistybranch · 06/11/2024 15:49

What will this new era usher in for Harry and Meghan?

I don’t think it will have any impact on his visa status ….but I think they may reign in their war against SM, especially if Musk is anywhere near the white house.

Harry will have to think before he speaks about the American constitution, didn’t he say the first amendment was “bonkers” ?

I think they may move away from this angle of their work and concentrate their efforts elsewhere.

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OneTealSloth · 07/11/2024 17:05

WinterCrow · 07/11/2024 16:59

I just don't buy that. The Heritage Foundation aren't 'rookies'. Melania was reportedly very upset at what she called - through her lawyer - the 'potential security threat' to her and her family. And that was entirely predictable, given the quantum and content of what the Heritage Foundation published about her mother life (eg medical information and addresses).

www.newsweek.com/melania-trump-upset-mother-visa-released-heritage-foundation-1974164

It’s why I called it desperate, angering Melania was a risk they were prepared to take. Will Trump himself care? remains to be seen. The Judge already blocked out sensitive information from Harry’s application in his ruling against the Heritage foundation.

OneTealSloth · 07/11/2024 17:06

Rhaidimiddim · 07/11/2024 17:04

Melania's visa status is known, though. No-one knows what visa Harry is on.

I’m sure we’ll find out soon enough. I bet it’s something spousal tbh

MiscellaneousSupportHuman · 07/11/2024 17:09

potatocakesinprogress · 07/11/2024 16:14

Of all the things to talk about from a Trump administration, this is bottom of the list. 10/10 disappointment opening this thread.

Maybe concern for how it's going to affect Ukrainians and then the rest of Europe would be a more appropriate starting point. Or perhaps his inflation-causing policies which will no doubt have a knock-on effect in the UK. Or maybe his environmental policies.

You need to be looking at the threads about those aspects, of which there are many.

This is The Royal Family topic - entirely the correct place to post about how events may (or may not) impinge on family members.

If you go to any of the many other threads, you'll also find posters from this thread posting on them. Because it's entirely possible to look at many different aspects.

You could always hide this topic, as it's such a disappointment to you.

Rhaidimiddim · 07/11/2024 17:11

MrsLeonFarrell · 07/11/2024 17:01

🤣🤣🤣

They deserve each other.

I'm sure they met in a previous life.

dottiehens · 07/11/2024 17:11

Maybe that is the reason Meghan was very quiet during the campaign and elections. Better not to be under Trump’s radar and he won’t even remember them. So many people had it for him that if revenge is what he wants he will be very busy. 😂

Twistybranch · 07/11/2024 17:13

They’ve definitely gone very quiet, I guess they are just keeping their heads down, trying to stay out of trouble

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MrsJoanDanvers · 07/11/2024 17:19

I really think with Ukraine, Gaza, China, inflation, and all the domestic issues Trump has said he’ll fix that he will not give a shit about Harry.

Mydahliasareshit · 07/11/2024 17:21

I doubt Trump gives a flick about Meghan, perhaps his view is all wives are expendable.

He does, however, care deeply about Barron Trump and his future legacy, and his relationship with the next two Kings of this nation would be a fragment of that.

greengreyblue · 07/11/2024 17:22

Ahhh I get it. Clicked on as I wondered what the US election had to do with a high st clothing store….

OneTealSloth · 07/11/2024 17:28

Mydahliasareshit · 07/11/2024 17:21

I doubt Trump gives a flick about Meghan, perhaps his view is all wives are expendable.

He does, however, care deeply about Barron Trump and his future legacy, and his relationship with the next two Kings of this nation would be a fragment of that.

True. He only ever talks about her when the UK press brings her up 😐

BasiliskStare · 07/11/2024 17:41

I honestly think - whatever the merits of Harry' visa or not - it won't be top of his (Trump's ) priority list. I hope not. I am not a fan of Trump but I hope POTUS would have more to worry about than a vexatious whinging scion of the RF.

OneTealSloth · 07/11/2024 17:47

BasiliskStare · 07/11/2024 17:41

I honestly think - whatever the merits of Harry' visa or not - it won't be top of his (Trump's ) priority list. I hope not. I am not a fan of Trump but I hope POTUS would have more to worry about than a vexatious whinging scion of the RF.

Some of the tabloids think that vengeance on behalf of the RF by deporting Harry is #1 on his priority list 😂

WinterCrow · 07/11/2024 17:49

OneTealSloth · 07/11/2024 17:28

True. He only ever talks about her when the UK press brings her up 😐

Who?? Meghan? Melania?

OneTealSloth · 07/11/2024 17:57

WinterCrow · 07/11/2024 17:49

Who?? Meghan? Melania?

Meghan

WinterCrow · 07/11/2024 18:24

Trump wouldn't want his family at risk. (In that news article I quoted, Melania's lawyer specifically stressed the impact on the wider Trump family.)

And Trump, above all, will not allow himself to be seen as vulnerable, weak, whingey, or losing face - basically, being like Harry.

This matter may appear trivial on the surface, but scrape underneath and there are Donald and Harry's fragile and fractured egos, and that makes things interesting. Add in the Heritage Foundation, Project 25, X / Musk, and this Niles character, then you have something unpredictable.

And as pp said (Mydahlias), President-Elect Trump cares very much about Barron.

And King Charles care about Harry.

And here they meet.

Plus also, pp's point (RedToothbrush) about the dead squirrel tactic. Good analysis, as ever.

I'm intrigued.

Pineapplesandthegovernmentandpunkrock · 07/11/2024 18:38

OneTealSloth · 07/11/2024 06:48

They were able to obtain Melania’s mother’s records because she is DEAD. Every living person is entitled to privacy when it comes to such records. I could file a FOI request for Elon Musk (another dodgy one alleged to have lied about working under a student visa) and the DHS would put up the same fight. As they should, this is not “covering up”.

No, they are public documents, that's why you can FOI them. The DHS then decides whether to apply a privacy based excemption to their release.

I think all visa applications should be public with regard to the status of the visa and declarations made pertaining to illegal activity. Nobody is asking for Harry's medical records or address. They are asking whether he disclosed relevant matters like drug use and convictions, which would bar ordinary citizens from entry..

The release of information by DHS about Melania Trump's her mother was an invasion of Melania's privacy and security, since the information released didn't just affect the dead woman, it affected her wider family, particularly her daughter, whom half of America has ill feelings towards, and contained addresses and medical information. And yet DHS provided it in response to a FOI with 11 days of the request. They didn't hesitate. They didn't argue about privacy or security in order to not release it. They didn't force a court case. They simply handed over hundreds of pages of information from their records to a third party.

So why did DHS treat Harry - who has waived his own privacy with his own words, lucratively set out in his own book - differently? That's this issue. Different rules for different people depending on influence - namely in this case, the influence of the incumbent government, with whom Harry has a cosy relationship, teaming up with them to try to dismantle freedom of speech.

OneTealSloth · 07/11/2024 18:45

Pineapplesandthegovernmentandpunkrock · 07/11/2024 18:38

No, they are public documents, that's why you can FOI them. The DHS then decides whether to apply a privacy based excemption to their release.

I think all visa applications should be public with regard to the status of the visa and declarations made pertaining to illegal activity. Nobody is asking for Harry's medical records or address. They are asking whether he disclosed relevant matters like drug use and convictions, which would bar ordinary citizens from entry..

The release of information by DHS about Melania Trump's her mother was an invasion of Melania's privacy and security, since the information released didn't just affect the dead woman, it affected her wider family, particularly her daughter, whom half of America has ill feelings towards, and contained addresses and medical information. And yet DHS provided it in response to a FOI with 11 days of the request. They didn't hesitate. They didn't argue about privacy or security in order to not release it. They didn't force a court case. They simply handed over hundreds of pages of information from their records to a third party.

So why did DHS treat Harry - who has waived his own privacy with his own words, lucratively set out in his own book - differently? That's this issue. Different rules for different people depending on influence - namely in this case, the influence of the incumbent government, with whom Harry has a cosy relationship, teaming up with them to try to dismantle freedom of speech.

Interesting.

Does mean anyone can request Melania Trump’s or Elon Musk’s then, genuinely curious.

It sets a precedent.

BecauseRonald · 07/11/2024 19:10

Yes, I was under the impression that at one point Elon Musk was an illegal migrant in the US

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2024/oct/26/elon-musk-illegal-immigration

I wonder if the OP is as passionately invested in Elon's immigration history as (s)he is in Harry's

Elon Musk worked in US illegally in 1995 after quitting school – report

Washington Post contrasts the episode with the South African multibillionaire’s anti-immigration views

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2024/oct/26/elon-musk-illegal-immigration

Viviennemary · 07/11/2024 22:47

MiscellaneousSupportHuman · 06/11/2024 19:15

This is the RF topic! Of course this is an angle that's talked about here.

If you want to talk about the environment, then try the Climate Change topic, for the others try Politics or In The News - and right now all over chat and AIBU. And you might just spot familiar usernames on those very threads - as it's really not unusual to be able to handle multiple angles.

Indeed. Why would you talk about the economy or climate change unless it was relevant to a particular royals speech or suchlike.

MiscellaneousSupportHuman · 08/11/2024 08:44

BecauseRonald · 07/11/2024 19:10

Yes, I was under the impression that at one point Elon Musk was an illegal migrant in the US

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2024/oct/26/elon-musk-illegal-immigration

I wonder if the OP is as passionately invested in Elon's immigration history as (s)he is in Harry's

If she is, she’ll probably post about it in an appropriate topic - ie not here in the Royal family one. Perhaps you should start a thread in whichever topic it fits, as you seem to think people ought to be talking about that (you can foster/encourage that)

But to indulge your diversion for a while, has his status also ended up in court?
Given his overt support for Trump, I suspect that his status is now secure (but it would have been anyhow on wealth/business).

Twistybranch · 08/11/2024 08:47

BecauseRonald · 07/11/2024 19:10

Yes, I was under the impression that at one point Elon Musk was an illegal migrant in the US

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2024/oct/26/elon-musk-illegal-immigration

I wonder if the OP is as passionately invested in Elon's immigration history as (s)he is in Harry's

Then start your own thread discussing such matters

Theres two posters on here that sound eerily alike……

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GiveMeSpanakopita · 08/11/2024 10:07

I would like to see him deported, purely because it would be funny. And I think Trump might do it, too, because he has a really good feel for lulz and trolling, and it would be a very lulzy thing to do.

GiveMeSpanakopita · 08/11/2024 10:11

Lavenderfarmcottage · 07/11/2024 15:43

I hope some more things go right for this couple. They’re privileged, yes but we all stand in judgment and have zero idea od what it would be like to walk out of our house with 50 paps, let alone have our every outfit, piece of hair and movement televised and photographed. I think most ordinary women would have a breakdown. There’s not just the pressure of the public but your husband who is hoping she’s found the right woman for him and the job.

I would love to see Harry and Meghan move into Windsor palace - it’s empty and it’s secure with ample room to bike ride and have fun. They deserve an olive branch but English royalty are too proud.

"have zero idea od what it would be like to walk out of our house with 50 paps, let alone have our every outfit, piece of hair and movement televised and photographed."

Would this experience directly cause one to lie and slander their families and make stuff up for virality and views tho?

OneTealSloth · 08/11/2024 10:11

Funny 🙃

cheezncrackers · 08/11/2024 10:12

I don't think anything will happen. DT likes to make threats, but I think the Dept of Homeland Security already said it wasn't going to make Harry's visa application public, so it would seem to be case closed.

I suspect H&M are the last thing on DT's mind and they'll only have issues if they make public comments about DT and his administration. If they lie low, keep quiet and just live their lives I doubt there is any real threat to their status.

They may not wish to live in the US full-time once DT is in power, but IMO that would be stupid, because California is a true blue Democrat state and their lives aren't going to change unless they deliberately poke the bear.

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