Duke of Sussex : "potentially initiate a partial return to the royal fold"

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Duke of Sussex asks former aides to help plot RETURN from his US exile in first stage of 'rehabilitation' strategy: Prince's friends vow to help smooth path back and dub it 'Operation Bring Harry In From The Cold' | Daily Mail Online

After everything he has said and done........

The Sussexes also look increasingly silly as they try to get a reaction out of the RF - like a toddler having a tantrum that you're deliberately ignoring.

And I so wish there could be an interview in which that very point is put to them.

I think, if I had to put my finger on what is most irritating about H & M, it's the way they manage to spout wall-to-wall hypocritical rubbish yet go unchallenged. Helping people to find their voice indeed. Ugh.

I'm always ready to shriek when someone writes that the boys 'were forced' to walk behind the coffin. Forced, be damned. The boys walked behind their mother's coffin. This paragraph is nothing to do with what it's attached to but the next one is. I'm just saying !

I can't help feeling sorry for that lost little boy, all at sea with his parents split and his mother's death. Yes, it seems like sense to keep the boys together at that point. No wonder he didn't make the most of his time at Eton. Did he say that himself in 'Spare'? You are probably correct that he'd moan now if he hadn't gone there. He would also be a bit overwhelmed by knowing that he's not academically the brightest star, even if it wasn't ever said in so many words.

This does not mean that I defend Harry at every turn - far from it. If he has a counsellor who has told him to get stuff out, fine. If he has a counsellor who's told him to get everything out on the world stage, then not fine.

I think Kate does have charisma, probably easier to see in smaller gatherings

She is reserved and gets the role, when she attends events she tries to make it about the event and not about her

She isn't forward, pushy or desperate for attention , unlike some I won't mention,

He co-operated in the writing of the 1994 authorised biography by Johnathan Dimbleby - who interviewed him to get source material for the book. The final version was however Dimbleby's words, not Charles' (except when directly attributed as quotations)

I completely agree with you. If only they could be interviewed properly by an unbiased interviewer with professional integrity. They would never agree to it though…..

Can you imagine if Jeremy Paxman of old was let loose on the pair of them? I would pay good money to watch that.

Me too @BigWillyLittleTodger!

Ooh, I'd be paying Oasis-level ticket money for that!! 😂

No wonder he didn't make the most of his time at Eton. Did he say that himself in 'Spare'?

He wrote about the history master trying to arouse in him a spark of interest in his own family's history.

I think this is very astute. It’s who she is. Thr bullying rumours and hush up confirm it. All the staff leaving their employ. She’s grasping and driven, and will jettison and trod on people to get where she wishes to go.

Harry being impressed with it, a d being so quick to throw his family under the bus is just terribly sad optics, it speaks of a less than intelligent man, so jealous of his own brother, and so spiteful.

@lemonpepperlady I think Harry is exactly that crass and venal (trying to co-opt Diana away from William). He said that he felt Diana had been looking over William while he had his children but had now come over to him to watch him have his children. He has said William has lost his resemblance to her.

I think a lot of his resentment of William is that he (because he's older) had more time with Diana than he (Harry) did. And also quite a different relationship. I think Diana treated William as a confidant and had a more parent-child relationship with Harry.

I would just love a Netflix docu series going over what happened and putting scrutiny on what they’ve said, there’s enough content for a whole series. Eg,

• when she said in the Cut interview that her children couldn’t possibly attend school in England because there would be 40 photographers snapping away and that she was a good mother to make that choice

Well have someone go over that, that Kate n Wills take their kids to school everyday and there’s no paps.

It’s just a tiny small thing, but there are endless amounts of these little lies that builds the story she’s creating that needs to be called out.

Interestingly, that Cut interview I think answers the question about Meghan and Charisma.
In the article, the journalist who clearly ain’t falling for it, describes her as having a producer from The Bachelor in her ear at all times. It’s all placed, staged, acted ,faked.

Meghan acts at being what she thinks is charismatic. The journalist goes to lengths to describe the home as being staged too, From the candle lit by an invisible hand and the flamenco guitar music playing in the background. It’s all an illusion. Meghan hugging a dog as she greets her guest. It’s an image of herself that meghan wants to project, and she falls apart when others don’t fall for it.

Meghan is great at making a first impression on some, but it’s all acting. There’s no real charisma and that’s why everything tends to fall apart in the end. There’s no substance behind it, it’s not natural behaviour. She does just enough to land the deal, to get the job, to get the headline….but scratch a little and there’s nothing there

lemonpepperlady · Today 12:04
Agree with this. I suspect Meghan has behaved throughout her time in the RF in much the way she's alwys behaved: sharp elbowed, highly competitive, self-absorbed, money-focussed, demanding.

Definitely. But (to repeat myself from another thread...sorry) I wonder if Meghan ever reflects on the huge leg-up she's had from her father, uncle and at least one of her previous partners? She sees herself as a feminist, but her career history doesn't really bear that out.

Father: responsible for promoting her in the world-famous case of the P & G Washing Up Story (it wasn't M's initiative - it was a class assignment to write to the company, but Dad Markle came in to class and filmed his darling daughter reading out her letter (the whole class had written one). And so a legend began.
Also, introductions and insider knowledge about getting a foot in the film-acting door.

Uncle: got her the much-talked about 'internship' in Argentina where she learned to speak fluent Spanish in less than 6 weeks.

Partners: well, the chef must have taught her to roast a chicken at least. We know she can do that - again, she's mentioned it a few times.

I'd love to know if she has any friends or relationships which are not based on self-interest.

I think Meghan thought she was being funny with her curtsey story, but it just made her look stupid.

That was awful, it just fell flatter than a flat pancake and made her look idiotic and nasty. Harry's facial expression when she was doing it was priceless even he could see it was a step too far and was a thinly veiled attempt to ridicule and make fun of his grandmother.

I think The Cut interview will go down in history as very clever journalism because Meghan must have approved it for publication and she completely missed the roasting she was getting. My jaw dropped when I read it.

Just like ARO, she happy to make the glamorous insta video, and make cute pots of jam. But it all style no substance.

Her trademark has just been rejected. I mean, how difficult is it to get a team on it and deal with this properly. I really wonder who on earth they have left on staff

https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1943713/meghan-markle-american-riviera-orchard-patent-rejected/amp

It was so so clever

One really smart part was in one paragraph she writes that Meghan talks about little girls seeing her as a real life princess and then just a paragraph over we see the journalist unsure how to greet Prince Harry (does she curtesy, does she bow and she’s in a bit of a fluster)

BUT she never writes that about when she firsts meets Meghan. There isn't this idea that she needs to pay deference etc because she clearly doesn’t see Meghan as a princess. Only Meghan sees herself as a princess

It’s brilliant!

Wasn't the journalist fired or suspended, though when the penny dropped?

The trouble with their lack of honesty, re-writing of history and the failure of any MSM to properly scrutinise their claims, is that people on SM have filled in the gaps, done the research and had shouting matches with the SS. Sometimes it's been correct calling out, sometimes it's ended up in wacky conspiracy theory territory. And, as a result, the Sussexes have claimed they are being bullied online, and this has fed into their quest to control social media and the internet. The Sussexes win either way.

I mean none of that is comparable really and none of it edifying

Father

Paid for her education. Contributed his professional expertise to school productions in which she appeared.

First meeting meghan (cut interview). Highlights how staged everything is and how meghan overacts. But she clearly doesn’t believe she is meeting a princess

“My first glimpse of Meghan in this new chapter is her crouched in the entryway, arms wrapped around her black Lab, Pula (Setswana for rain and good fortune and a tribute to an early date during the couple’s whirlwind romance in 2016). The front doors are thrown wide open, as are the doors leading out to the backyard. She stands and smiles with the perfect level of warmth, the gleam of her teeth rivaled only by the shininess of her blowout. Backlit by the late-morning light in a scene that looks like a Nancy Meyers cinematic interior, Town & Country, Goop, and Architectural Digest had an orgy and created the perfect moment in California living, she throws her arms wide open, too, and gives me a hug. “Come on through,” she says, beckoning me to join her on one of many terraces.

On meeting Harry, the opposite. Completely unstaged, the man is talking about pipes! But she clearly doesn’t know how to greet a prince (after just writing about how meghan thinks she’s a princess)

Meghan is still very aware that people see her as a princess. “It’s important to be thoughtful about it because — even with the Oprah interview, I was conscious of the fact that there are little girls that I meet and they’re just like, ‘Oh my God, it’s a real-life princess.’ ”

Next paragraph:

Meghan’s Harry, or “H,” as she calls him in anecdotes, or “my love,” as she refers to him when he’s standing in front of her, as he is now in navy-blue athletic shorts, a T-shirt, and no shoes, has appeared from somewhere in the house to say hello. I stand up, instantly understanding the confusion Meghan must have felt when she first met the royal family. Am I supposed to shake his hand, or bow, or curtsy, or salute? Do I call him Prince Harry, the Royal Formerly Known As Prince, Ex-Prince Harry, the Duke, Sir, Mr. — wait, does he have a last name? As if to preempt any attempts I might make at curtsying, Harry extends his hand to shake mine and welcomes me to their home.