Duke of Sussex : "potentially initiate a partial return to the royal fold"

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Duke of Sussex asks former aides to help plot RETURN from his US exile in first stage of 'rehabilitation' strategy: Prince's friends vow to help smooth path back and dub it 'Operation Bring Harry In From The Cold' | Daily Mail Online

After everything he has said and done........

The problem with their policy of being polite to the Monarch whilst blaming everyone else is that the monarch changes. So the late Queen and Prince Philip were perfect but Charles, Camilla and William and Catherine were terrible. Now though Charles is perfect and it's all on William. Do they really think that this tactic will work? It's so obvious and, like everything they do, short term in it's approach.

Similar story in our (Murdoch) media today in Australia:
www.news.com.au/entertainment/celebrity-life/royals/clearly-not-working-huge-harry-admission-in-bombshell-new-report/news-story/28c9908a1247f89d66bac2e671a186fa

"Hold onto your hats, because the self-exiled royal has, according to the Daily Mail, “sought advice from trusted former aides in Britain on how to mastermind a return from exile in the United States”. (Which may or may not have taken the form of him sending a single WhatsApp message that just read “Help” with a cup emoji, at which point some nice men with old Etonian ties and King Charles’ private fax number learned that Americans make tea using microwaves and were so appalled they immediately dropped everything to save him)."

Whilst I love that quote, I do wonder whether these 'trusted former aides' are the same men in grey suits or members of the so called Sussex Survivors Club that he and his Squad have been attacking for years. If so, he really does have some cheek expecting them to help him now.

@MrsLeonFarrell I agree. It didn't seem to cross their minds that the very, very elderly QE and Philip weren't going to live forever. I think, possibly, moves are being made now because although an injured party, Charles is a more likely source of reconciliation, because Dad. When William takes over (hopefully way in the future, but who knows) they are toast and perhaps that penny has finally dropped.

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I don't understand why H's friends are coming up with strategies to reintegrate him into the RF or what the RF should be prepared to forgive. Who are these friends and who gave them permission to speak to the DM?

Yes I agree that Charles, as a loving father, would love a reconciliation. However once again they are ignoring the fact that William, as heir, has a great deal of input in matters relating to the 'Firm' now not just in the future.

They really need to think about how Andrew was dealt with. It didn't matter that the Queen was a fond mama, Charles and William worked together to show her that he had no future in the working part of the family.

Harry is once again assuming that his family relationships will outweigh the monarchy in any decisions and they just don't.

Actually, that makes a lot of sense.

I'm sure many people feel the same.
He has blatantly tried to exploit his royal status for money. If he ever becomes a working royal again it'll be the end for the royal family.

I'd hope if he gets divorced he comes back and gets a farm or something, does some real work, and reconciles with his family. In private.

@MrsFinkelstein brilliant 👏👏

She looked fantastic. Her face was radiant and she lit up a room. She was not, however, a drop dead beauty. Rather her charisma and love won her admiration and accolades despite her inner turmoil and at times contrary behaviour.

If he’d had any sense he could have left and stayed friendly with his family. Why he thought trashing them was a good move is anyone’s guess. Neither he or his wife are emotionally intelligent.

If it was about security though, Harry is doing a very good job at undermining his case against RAVEC by proving he can pop in and out unannounced and without the massive security he wants as pp have said.

I do agree though that this would be about monetising their connections. They seem to have belatedly realises that they actually need access to the RF to be able to do this, so maybe they think having Harry’s feet on the ground is the best way 🤷‍♀️

Quite simple. Trashing them was a money making exercise. How else could they have made money?

The problem with their policy of being polite to the Monarch whilst blaming everyone else is that the monarch changes. So the late Queen and Prince Philip were perfect but Charles, Camilla and William and Catherine were terrible. Now though Charles is perfect and it's all on William. Do they really think that this tactic will work? It's so obvious and, like everything they do, short term in it's approach.

So true MrsLeonFarrell!

Yes, the creepy, a*-licking way they both stressed at the OW interview that the alleged royal racists were NOT the Queen or PP. As with all they do, do they really think we can't see through them? And suggesting that it wasn't the Queen who wouldn't give Harry his own way - just his horrid brother and mean Pa.

Harry more or less said that, since Charles had cut him off, he had to trash his family to make money. No thought at all that he might use his vast inheritances and connections to make money via investments in the many opportunities available in the US State of emerging tech and film/TV production. That would have been the quiet but successful and fulfilling private life he claimed he wanted when he left the UK for. But he never really wanted a private life, did he? His wife certainly didn't.

And I don't think Harry would have done this without Meghan. To be clear: I know some pps have objected to 'blaming the woman', but I genuinely don't think being a woman has anything to do with this - it's Meghan's poisonous personality and the ease with which she seems to be able to cut off her own family members and previously close friends which should have been the red flag.

Harry was clearly a grumpy, miserable man long before he met her, but Meghan's narcissistic need to be adored as the Queen Bee plus her bitter jealousy of Catherine combined disastrously with that. She saw a chance to manipulate Harry for her own ends and he bought it. He's clearly emotionally unintelligent (just look at the way he refuses to acknowledge the seriousness of what they've done) and, like a small child, unable to project into the future to see the consequences of his actions.

When he did that interview on the Aspen slopes with ABC, after his 24 hour "dash" to hijack visit his father after the cancer announcement, you could almost see the same self aggrandisement on display as when he claimed, in his previous interview with Gayle King, that he had visited the (then) Queen to make sure she was surrounded by "the right people". Except this time I think even he wasn't buying his own self delusion about his own importance, hence the bitter and brittle tone of the piece.

I’ve said elsewhere I thought it was odd that they quickly denied that the alleged comments were made by the late Queen or Prince Philip. Philip doesn’t seem to have been too taken with Meghan anyway for whatever reason, and he was of a generation and indeed an age where filters seem to go out of the window. It seemed odd for Scobie to then claim it was Charles and Catherine, partly because they seems to be an odd combination to be having that particular conversation and partly because Catherine is of a generation that is far more aware of sensibilities around that subject. Of course, the Royals cannot say anything to either confirm or deny what was said or who said it, as that would end up as a he said she said exercise, so the Sussexes are free to let suspicion fall on whoever they choose

Prince Philip was against it on the basis it would be traumatising, but ultimately the boys agreed on the basis that their grandad Prince Philip walked with them as he was a huge support to ehm in those difficult early days in Balmoral.

I agree, lemonpepperlady.

There's so much rubbish talked on here (and elsewhere) about PP by people who just saw a crusty old upper-class gent and projected their prejudices on to him.

Don't want to derail the thread (and it would be an essay!) but, the charge that he was a crude racist I don't think is fair. Of course, his views and his mode of expression might not be suitable for the 21st century, but I've read a lot about him and I don't think he was a racist. From what I understand, he respected particularly tribal people and thought the developed world were the crazy ones.

One eg: for some reason (I can't remember quite how this started) he was seen as a god by a Pacific island people and they sent him a ceremonial spear - a great honour. Philip didn't mock them, but instead had a special photo taken, showing himself throwing the spear and sent it to them with his sincere thanks. I know this sounds ridiculous, and I'm sure he didn't think he was a god, but his attitude was one of humility and respect towards them.

Yes, he cracked some regrettable jokes but I don't buy the fact that he was a nasty racist - that's a very crude interpretation of a complex man.

I agree @CoffeeCantata , but I also think that Philip spoke his mind and it is very possible that he would want to point out to Harry that there were things he needed to consider. It is equally probable that he conversation was just a general one about who any baby would take after. We will never know. I just thought it was strange how they were so quick to insist it wasn’t the Queen or PP, who obviously held the power at that time 🤷‍♀️

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