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Thedom · 01/09/2024 19:36

Imanontoday · 01/09/2024 12:11

They are a long way from willing to do that.

rereleasing spare in paper back - it’s all about the money.

lying his father didn’t see him as he was too busy, when his father not only was willing to see him but offered him accommodation at one of the palaces.

doing pseudo royal trips to corrupt countries

still trying to do half in half out and trying to get his mates to help. Likely wanted it leaked to put the palace in an awkward position .

still not brought his kids to see his father.

relaunched his pseudo royal Sussex website.

all recent stuff. He’s not willing to work very hard , she’s not willing to work very hard, they just want the kudos of being royal and they are so excluded now and no one interested they need to try to get back in to feather their nest/

Spare being released in paperback is re-emphasing all the insults he has thrown at his family, it's all being rehashed and becoming fresh again. No fricking olive branch there, don't know how they have managed to spin that one.

If he really wanted to make any effort at reconciliation, he would have written a foreword to apologise for the hurt the book caused his family, admit he was angry and some of what he said was said in anger and not absolutely accurate, regret how his actions and words meant his lovely sister in law and his father were subject to some awful slurs about being racist which was not true in the slightest.

Even if his contract with the publishers didn't allow him to retract, he could always use a statement from 'The office of the Duke and Duchess of Sussex' to walk back some of his awful insults at his family.

But continued silence 'silence is complicit'. Way to go Aitch.

CarmelaBrunella · 01/09/2024 19:38

Absolutely, @Thedom . Awful behaviour.
I have no idea why people on here excuse him.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 01/09/2024 19:46

He's pretty much trapped, which is ironic given how he's described his brother's situation. His children are going to grow up in California so unless he wants to be that parent who only sees his kid a few times a year, that's where he will have to stay too. And he has very publicly given up everything for this marriage, so admitting to failure would be a huge humiliation for him. So this is his life now

Absolutely, @IcedPurple
Some might even argue that Meghan's played a blinder, but all these potential complications could have been avoided with just a little thought and planning instead of rushing off in a huff

But that's what Harry chose to do, and as ever actions have consequences

JSMill · 01/09/2024 19:56

LentilWaver · 01/09/2024 18:05

I wonder how things would be if Harry was a Mary. I doubt a younger sister would have caused such havoc. She would have probably looked lots like Diana and been adored by the public but other than that things might be a lot easier for all involved.

Or she could have been a plain Jane, which would be very difficult growing up as the daughter of one of the most glamorous women in the world.

Abouttimeforanamechange · 01/09/2024 19:59

Plus, Prince Philip had walked behind his beloved sister's coffin when he was just a teenager.

His sister Cecilie, her husband, their two young sons and the child Cecilie was pregnant with at the time all died in an air crash on their way to a family wedding in England. Philip was sixteen at the time. Very sadly, the surviving child, a daughter who had not been on the plane beause she was considered too young to go to the wedding, died a couple of years later of meningitis.

The Crown suggested that Philip was to blame because had convinced Cecilie to fly, even though she disliked flying. Not surprisingly, Philip was reportedly furious.

CarmelaBrunella · 01/09/2024 20:14

Abouttimeforanamechange · 01/09/2024 19:59

Plus, Prince Philip had walked behind his beloved sister's coffin when he was just a teenager.

His sister Cecilie, her husband, their two young sons and the child Cecilie was pregnant with at the time all died in an air crash on their way to a family wedding in England. Philip was sixteen at the time. Very sadly, the surviving child, a daughter who had not been on the plane beause she was considered too young to go to the wedding, died a couple of years later of meningitis.

The Crown suggested that Philip was to blame because had convinced Cecilie to fly, even though she disliked flying. Not surprisingly, Philip was reportedly furious.

I know. It's a tragic story, but blaming Philip was outrageous. I have no idea how "The Crown" has got away with misrepresenting royal history to the detriment of the family.
Philip was a boy, at a tough boarding school, losing his favourite sister in the most awful circumstances, and they turned the episode into his fault. Awful.

diddl · 01/09/2024 20:14

I think re the funeral the RF were caught between a rock & a hard place.

Perhaps they should have stuck to their guns re a private funeral?

I think they were damned either way.

Can't imagine Charles Spencer keeping his mouth shut if it had been a small non televised affair!

GorgeousTulips · 01/09/2024 20:15

JSMill · 01/09/2024 19:56

Or she could have been a plain Jane, which would be very difficult growing up as the daughter of one of the most glamorous women in the world.

Yes,
her sisters aren’t anything special.

CarmelaBrunella · 01/09/2024 20:25

GorgeousTulips · 01/09/2024 20:15

Yes,
her sisters aren’t anything special.

What?! They were both attractive, especially Sarah, who was so vivacious.

CathyorClaire · 01/09/2024 20:29

I'm guessing the Travelyst thing is much the same - he does a speech for them once a year or something and that's it.

Travalyst is a private company in which Harold has the controlling percentage share. It's been a vehicle giving him a UK address (recently corrected) and historically absorbed a donation of charitable funds sourced from the Royal Foundation presumably now spent yet never openly accounted for nor ever will be.

Farcical.

JerryHasSprungAgain · 01/09/2024 20:32

Does he really want to come back? I thought he was well out of it. He'll be back in court soon enough though to try and bring down Piers and some of the other old hacks...

GorgeousTulips · 01/09/2024 20:49

CarmelaBrunella · 01/09/2024 20:25

What?! They were both attractive, especially Sarah, who was so vivacious.

Not stunners though. Just average.

CarmelaBrunella · 01/09/2024 20:55

GorgeousTulips · 01/09/2024 20:49

Not stunners though. Just average.

Perhaps if they'd had Diana's hairdresser, beauty treatments and clothes they could have looked stunning

Abouttimeforanamechange · 01/09/2024 20:58

I think with Diana, it was image and glamour as much as actual looks. Her features were not classically perfect as, for example, the young Elizabeth Taylor or Vivien Leigh.

CarmelaBrunella · 01/09/2024 21:04

Abouttimeforanamechange · 01/09/2024 20:58

I think with Diana, it was image and glamour as much as actual looks. Her features were not classically perfect as, for example, the young Elizabeth Taylor or Vivien Leigh.

I would agree. Have a look at her before she was with Charles. Quite a difference.

BESTAUNTB · 01/09/2024 21:13

I said on the other thread that I think William would sit down and talk with H if his marriage failed and he needed/wanted to leave the USA - simply because they are brothers and presumably he loves him. I dint have siblings so I’m not best placed to judge but I’m thinking that there must be a robust bond there. No idea what the outcome of talks would be …but I do think W would be willing to have them, albeit tentatively.

I think that Kate would understand because her own siblings are very important to her. But again, I don’t know that and I certainly don’t know her. His indiscreet behaviour must have felt like a kick in the teeth given how close they were as a trio of young royals…I recall them having a running race before the Olympics in 2012 and they seemed so genuinely joyful and silly and upbeat.

I am not a royalist so I don’t really care about the constitutional side of things and I’d rather not have another one for the taxpayer to pay for, but that’s my feeling about how it might play out in the sad event of H divorce.

GorgeousTulips · 01/09/2024 21:14

CarmelaBrunella · 01/09/2024 21:04

I would agree. Have a look at her before she was with Charles. Quite a difference.

She was only a teenager then. She grew more beautiful as she got older and more sophisticated.

BESTAUNTB · 01/09/2024 21:26

I never thought that D was beautiful even as she left her awkward teens and got a bit older. I thought she had immense style and poise, and lovely thick hair. But “beauty” in the early 1990s… I tend to think of people like Catherine Zeta Jones and some of the supermodels not Diana tbh. Not that it matters now.

TheStroppyFeminist · 01/09/2024 21:28

jeffgoldblum · 01/09/2024 18:00

I personally find the bandying about of rape victims to obsolve Harry of his behaviour , extremely offensive and disrespectful, think before you post these comments.
On a forum of mainly women the percentage of us who have been sexually assaulted is extremely high and should never be used in an argument to prove your point.

Hear hear

WhyamIinahandcartandwherearewegoing · 01/09/2024 21:48

Myoldtable · 01/09/2024 14:37

I can strongly recommend the book ‘ Meghan and Harry The Real Story’ by Lady Colin Campbell, who has access to royal insiders and royal cousins. It’s the closest to getting the views of the royals who of course cannot comment. She has also written an updated version.

Lady c is a mad old boot 🤣

Citrusandginger · 01/09/2024 22:02

Mylovelygreendress · 01/09/2024 17:36

Have just been reading that the Spencers are trying to get W and H to reconcile . I think there may be some truth in that .

They probably don't want him either. Much better to foist him on his dad.

Pineapplesandthegovernmentandpunkrock · 01/09/2024 22:13
Avoid Downton Abbey GIF by PeacockTV

A dramatisation of the conversation the Spencer sisters are having right now.

GorgeousTulips · 01/09/2024 22:14

Pineapplesandthegovernmentandpunkrock · 01/09/2024 22:13

A dramatisation of the conversation the Spencer sisters are having right now.

😂😂

ISeriouslyDoubtIt · 01/09/2024 22:17

GorgeousTulips · 01/09/2024 21:14

She was only a teenager then. She grew more beautiful as she got older and more sophisticated.

Exactly this. She was a beautiful woman, her sisters have nice faces but were never beautiful.
I once saw Diana in real life, I went to a ballet premiere and her seat was a few rows in front of mine, we all stood while she walked down to it. She would have been about 25 and wore a long black dress had the most amazing luminous skin, she looked fantastic.

StartupRepair · 01/09/2024 22:21

Keep thinking of Harry's dramatic face on his Freedom Flight, taking him away from being Trapped. How will he spin it that that was his Truth then but now he wants to come back, cut ribbons and have his profile managed again by the Grey Men?

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