Meghan and Harry spotted out and about - ¡Viva Colombia! Edition (Part 7)

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Welcome to Part 7 of our positive threads, where we explore all things Meghan and Harry. From the causes they champion and their business ventures to Meghan’s (and occasionally Harry’s 😉) fashion moments, there’s a lot to chat about. This is a drama-free space, so let’s keep it upbeat! High five to @queentim for the original inspiration.

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That’s a rather slanted question because I don’t think they have claimed to be better or different than any other royal, philanthropist, or celebrity have they? I don’t think they are better than anyone else either.

But I think it’s good they are going to less-visited countries.

I think the RF missed a trick when they stopped them being, in essence, roving ambassadors because the RF definitely need to be projecting more diversity and inclusivity.

And, with their relative wealth, they could spend their time exclusively downing cocktails, playing polo, and doing yoga, and never going anywhere, but they have decided to involve themselves in some good causes.

I’m sure it’s far easier to sit at home than risk generating all of the horrible rhetoric aimed at them on a daily basis, including endless negative threads on Mumsnet.

And they do it without as much admin and logistical support that Harry would have had in the old days.

Good for them I say. They won’t need anyone’s permission!

I think the RF missed a trick when they stopped them being, in essence, roving ambassadors because the RF definitely need to be projecting more diversity and inclusivity.

I really don’t get this mindset. They are a family. Diversity is not a factor when choosing who you make a family with. They project respect for and acceptance of other cultures and ethnicities in their actions. Why isn’t that enough?

Edited to add that of course I know diversity isn’t just about ethnicity but I felt that was the point being made.

Have a lovely holiday. ☺️❤️

Excellent points.

Here is what the mirror reported,

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/royals/cost-prince-harry-meghan-markles-33522052

Quite positive and it shows how Colombia is hitting back at the naysayers in the British press.

@Finistereoverthere the RF never stopped them doing anything.
The RF gave them the most amazing opportunities and patronages, tours and events.
Their choice to leave entirely.

Oh and "Colombia" isn't "hitting back".
The people who organised it are, because of the level of criticism.

I said interpreter because last video I saw kept saying that but it may not be correct and my view is probably being influence by their comments.

Seen clip twice - first time Brazilian lady commenting's she thought it was all amateur hour poorly organised and Meghan was just uninterested in events or confused or just rude.

Then saw a Canadian woman commenting - she one who referred to woman as interpreter she thought Harry was happy having everything explained to him - and Meghan had shot herself in the foot over egging her language skills and was clearly confused - smiling in wrong places and clearly on edge trying to blag her way though.

Rigidly Meghan sitting and grinning straight ahead was obvious cause much less so.

Rest of tour there are plenty of pictures of them looking happy and relaxed - though I believe they had own photographer and they are though highly media aware - so I think people tend to project what they want to see on them ie happy or not onto them.

Their personal photographer, Misan Harriman, helps to ensure that the Sussexes have plenty of photos out there of them looking happy and relaxed.
If the photos are "altered", only he can say 😇

None of us know for sure what happened unless we were present at the discussions.

No 😊

your post sounds vaguely threatening 😂😆

So don't claim they were prevented from doing anything then.
You weren't there.

Less than 10k and most of that only pledged?

That's just embarrassing, even more so given that they're promoting themselves as leaving a legacy and the cost of hosting them was over $2 million.

I do find it interesting the way the fans all just completely ignore the inconvenient truths and just keep banging on about how they're strong, in love and admirable.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13774315/harry-meghan-colombia-faux-royal-tour.html

so…..they gave out some drums. That’s what this trip was for and how it helped the locals?

oh well only cost them £1.5 million for a few instruments

That’s a rather slanted question because I don’t think they have claimed to be better or different than any other royal, philanthropist, or celebrity have they? I don’t think they are better than anyone else either.

Harry most definitely claims that of Meghan! From his Oprah interview:

Harry: But it was also . . . it was also the first time that the family got to see how incredible she is at the job. And that brought back memories.

Oprah: Where your father and your mother went there, and your mother was bedazzling. So, are you saying that there were hints of jealousy?

Harry: Look, I just wish that we would all learn from the past. But to see the . . . to see how effortless it was for Meghan to come into the family so quickly in Australia and across New Zealand, Fiji and Tonga, and just be able to connect with people..

And in Spare:

”Everywhere we went, enormous crowds turned out and she didn’t disappoint, All across Australia, Tonga, Fiji, New Zealand, she dazzled. After one especially rousing speech she got a standing ovation. She was so brilliant that midway through the tour I felt compelled to warn her:

You’re doing too well, my love. Too damn well. You’re making it look so easy. This is how everything started…with my mother”

Maybe I sounded mad, paranoid. But everyone knew that Mummy’s situation went from bad to worse when she showed the world, the family, that she was better at touring, better than connecting with people, better at being “royal”…”

'Roving ambassadors' for the RF? I don't know how that would have worked as anyone representing the RF anywhere in the world has to toe the party line, be diplomatic at all times and strictly no going off piste. Not what M&H had in mind at all, definitely no jamborees, and, personally, I don't think it was M&H that made this a 'quasi-royal tour', that's down to the media who delight in rattling that particular drum and won't just report it as celebrity gallivanting. I like looking at her outfits but that's it really.

That is all vaguely nauseating when you see it all written down together 😆

missed a bit

It certainly isn’t a good look (pun intended!) especially when more than double was spent on Meghan’s clothes and jewellery for all of those outfit changes.
As Archewell is registered in Delaware, they are afforded the option of only 5% of money going to charities and good causes, so the Sussexes can spend Archewell money on expenses and that includes what Meghan wears. It’s also known that donations are down. It’s been reported that more American donations are made to The Prince and Princess of Wales’ foundation than to Archewell so maybe there just isn’t the money to donate. (But then it could be argued, don’t flaunt the cash on an extravagant wardrobe).
It will be interesting if donations to the Archewell Foundation are up because of this trip as it was obviously PR and advertising for it. If the donations into Archewell following this visit outweigh any ‘donations’ from the Foundation, towards these causes in Columbia (if the pledges are honoured), then it’s good for business as they are making money from it all.

@smilesy and Serenster

Yes - Harry clearly had just as little understanding of what royalty (as opposed to celebrities) do as Meghan had.

They are a right pair, aren't they? She needs constant attention, adulation and validation and he's there to supply it. Surely at some point the scales must fall from even Harry's eyes.

She was "better at being royal"?! Well Harry says he's probably paranoid - I don't know that, but he's certainly deluded.

They most certainly are - it's well-known that his b/w one with Meghan and Harry under the tree when she was pregnant was very much a composite with the tree etc being added to the original image.

Which puts the Sussex Squad and their ridiculous fuss over the Mother's Day photo by Catherine on very shaky ground.

Nowadays photos are manipulated - who knew? I always expect them to be.

"shaky ground" indeed, aka hypocrisy.

At least they didn't gift beads ( slthough the drums were sailing very close to the colonial wind).

I didn't need to be present to know that they are no longer working for the RF. A blind Columbian dog could work that one out. Or do you mean something else?

Yes. I do mean something else. I mean that there's no evidence that they were prevented from doing anything by the RF, apart from being official royalty yet making money on the side.
They chose to leave, down to them.
They're not victims, however much they like to use that playbook.