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German documentary about Meghan

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sausawyee · 26/07/2024 09:03

www.skynews.com.au/lifestyle/celebrity-life/every-detail-will-be-checked-bombshell-meghan-markle-documentary-delayed-while-producers-seek-legal-advice/news-story/e56d56d3e60f37af6a31da01b455f0b2?amp

I have seen several newspapers referring to this German documentary. It's the first I've heard of it.

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sausawyee · 28/07/2024 11:32

@FloofPaws Max Azria. He was CEO of BCBG Max Azria clothing etc.

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InsomniacIda · 28/07/2024 11:38

Rhaidimiddim · 28/07/2024 11:08

Like she saw the RF as a resource to be mined and exploited, rather than as a family of individual, real people whom she intended to join and built a relationship with.

Yes this is my impression too.

CoffeeCantata · 28/07/2024 12:57

CurlewKate · 28/07/2024 11:21

@CoffeeCantata "
Then I expect to hear him speaking passable German. I look forward to it"

Did the late Queen speak German? I know she spoke "Stratford atte Bowe" French...

Yes, she did apparently (I've been interested in this for a while and have done a bit of research) but not as good as Prince Philip's. The Queen (like me and maybe you?) learned her French and German in the UK in a classroom context (never ideal) whereas PP was brought up for a while in France and also Germany, speaking those languages in the family every day.. I've seen him interviewed in both German and French and he was fluent. The comments underneath the video from native speakers were very complimentary - saying that his French and German were totally 'native' but a bit old-fashioned in their vocab.

I do think it should be a priority for the RF to be fluent in at least 2 other languages, and to be able to get by in perhaps one more. I think the Wales children have learned Spanish from their nanny, which is encouraging.

CoffeeCantata · 28/07/2024 13:02

InsomniacIda · 28/07/2024 11:38

Yes this is my impression too.

I've thought a lot about this and I do try (though many will find it hard to believe!!) to be fair to Meghan.

I think she is a total user, but there must be something in her genes or background which has made her like this. I think her way of relating to other people is very mercenary and transactional - even, or perhaps especially, with Harry. Look at the way she dumped her previous men - plus the pile of discarded 'best friends', many of whom she simply ghosted with no warning. It's not...the normal way people go about their lives, is it?

Is this due to her Hollywood upbringing? Sitting around film-sets as a youngster, waiting for Dad to finish work? Something about her family and their attitudes? What I'm saying is: I don't even think it's calculated - I think that's how she thinks human relations work and she doesn't know any better.

LouiseBourgeos · 28/07/2024 15:00

CoffeeCantata · 28/07/2024 13:02

I've thought a lot about this and I do try (though many will find it hard to believe!!) to be fair to Meghan.

I think she is a total user, but there must be something in her genes or background which has made her like this. I think her way of relating to other people is very mercenary and transactional - even, or perhaps especially, with Harry. Look at the way she dumped her previous men - plus the pile of discarded 'best friends', many of whom she simply ghosted with no warning. It's not...the normal way people go about their lives, is it?

Is this due to her Hollywood upbringing? Sitting around film-sets as a youngster, waiting for Dad to finish work? Something about her family and their attitudes? What I'm saying is: I don't even think it's calculated - I think that's how she thinks human relations work and she doesn't know any better.

Could be something a simple as narcissism?

I think she has that 'main character syndrome'. There's something so affected and self-conscious about her facial expressions, it's very off-putting and I think it's one of the reasons people don't warm to her.

IAmATorturedPoet · 28/07/2024 15:11

Narcissism does seem to come up a lot when MM is discussed (and not just on MN). Makes you wonder if there may be something in that and it would explain a lot of her behaviours.

Citrusandginger · 28/07/2024 16:00

I often think of Agatha Christie's Miss Marple books, where she saw people's character traits and behaviours through people with similarities in her own village of St Mary Mead.

We all know a Meghan. And a Harry.

Any new revelations may contain shocking details, but they won't be much of a surprise.

Rhaidimiddim · 28/07/2024 16:23

Puzzledandpissedoff · 28/07/2024 11:26

Indeed, @Rhaidimiddim, and if true that would fit in with my personal belief that Meghan never had the least intention of staying in the UK - or as CoffeeCantata put it, "make a silly request and then create a drama because the person declined. An old trick when playing victim"

As mentioned, it just seemed so very early to be doing it

I'm of the Tom Bower school of thought, too, that she always intended to bag the prize, anchor baby, then back to the USA to monetise.

InsomniacIda · 28/07/2024 16:31

Rhaidimiddim · 28/07/2024 16:23

I'm of the Tom Bower school of thought, too, that she always intended to bag the prize, anchor baby, then back to the USA to monetise.

I believe this too but the mercenary type of thinking it would take is quite staggering.

Runnerinthenight · 28/07/2024 16:31

HucklefinBerry · 28/07/2024 08:55

@Runnerinthenight

It's really not. While MM may not actually be behind it, with all her posturing about abusive social media, she hasn't condemned the attacks on Kate, William and their family either, has she?!!
And they didn't condemn the public attacks on her either did they. That's what set the whole thing off. She was treated appallingly and Kate William and the palace sat back and allowed it to happen. Even the whole who cried at the dress fitting situation. It was clearly Kate who made Meghan cry as Kate later apologised which William has acknowledged. Yet they merrily sat back and let Meghan take the flack

No, because they don't speak out in public about these things. They rise above them, which clearly works! It was Meghan who set herself up as the patron saint of all people bullied on social media, therefore her silence is telling. Kate's is not.

CoffeeCantata · 28/07/2024 17:09

LouiseBourgeos
Could be something a simple as narcissism?

I think you're absolutely right. Meghan is a textbook example - I don't know how anyone can deny that.

Theinflictuswithrictusgames · 28/07/2024 17:11

Serenster · 28/07/2024 09:15

There’s definitely been an agenda when it comes to Kate.

Apart from the “snobby Kate wouldn’t give mMeghan a lift” story I mentioned above, there’s loads of other examples.

Meghan saying in the Oprah interview about the bridesmaid dress incident that “I would have never wanted that to come out about [Kate] ever, even though it had happened. I protected that from ever being out in the world” was spectacularly ironic given she was indeed now bringing up the incident in front of the global media, when she knew her sister in law could never reply (and brilliantly worded, insinuating that it was something so serious that it needed to be “protected”).

The whole “Kate made me cry” story was also repeated in Meghan’s interview in The Cut magazine, and obviously at great length in Spare.

Meghan brought up the “Waitey Katey” label in her Oprah interview and insinuated that that was the extent of the mistreatment Kate received from the press, completely minimising all the physical harassment, abuse and gross invasions of privacy her sister in law did have to live through for 10 years.

Meghan said that she wouldn’t let her children go to school in the UK because she is “a good and strong parent protecting her child” the week before the Cambridge children all started their new school in the UK.

In her first podcast she said “You can pretend to be the perfect version like a Stepford wife and still have the exact same outcome as someone who is being authentically truly themselves and wouldn’t you rather live with a version of yourself where you can look in the mirror at night?” - widely taken to be a reference to her sister in law. Omid Scobie also then directly likened Kate to a Stepford Wife in Endgame.

In Finding Freedom Omid Scobie wrote that William and Kate’s domestic lifestyle was one that the Sussexes had seen and decided they definitely didn’t want.

“Friends of Meghan” of made a public statement that Meghan didn’t want her children to grow up in an environment without hugs and laughter, like the Sussexes were leaving, and that all the Royals, especially Kate, were so uptight.

This was then followed up in Spare - Harry told us Kate was cold, formal, only lent her lipgloss grudgingly, took unreasonable offence at being told she had a baby brain etc etc.

Then in Endgame Omid Scobie “accidentally” names her as one of the Royal Racists.

Also in Endgame, the blame for Meghan not receiving help for her mental health is pinned on Catherine.

CoffeeCantata · 28/07/2024 17:11

InsomniacIda · 28/07/2024 16:31

I believe this too but the mercenary type of thinking it would take is quite staggering.

Someone somewhere said 'Meghan is a top predator. She's hunted and got herself a prize piece of meat, and now she's run away to eat it in private!'

I'm sorry, but that did make me titter. The thought of Meghan, with bloody fangs, tearing chunks off Harry and growling at anyone who came near him!

CoffeeCantata · 28/07/2024 17:14

TheInflictus
Also in Endgame, the blame for Meghan not receiving help for her mental health is pinned on Catherine.

Oh my God! How on earth did he come to that conclusion? Utterly bizarre to the point of being surreal. (I've never had the pleasure of reading Scobie's oeuvre.)

It's almost as if someone was feeding him information - someone who had a grudge against Catherine.

Sunlime · 28/07/2024 17:15

Do we know why Omid was mysteriously dumped from being their mouthpiece yet?

CoffeeCantata · 28/07/2024 17:20

Sunlime · Today 17:15

I don't know whether that names of the so-called royal 'racists' (accusation later rescinded, but mega damage already done) were supposed to come out, and whether that was a cock-up or a conspiracy on OS's part. Perhaps H & M were hoping to keep that bit of information hanging over the RF's head, and somehow, it got out.

I'm surprised they've dumped him because I would guess he knows quite a lot that he could monetise!!

MaturingCheeseball · 28/07/2024 17:31

I’m not sure that Meghan intended all along to run back to California - I think like pp said that she planned to milk her position for all it was worth. She kept her PR and business people, and was apparently in talks with Oprah before the wedding.

But… it soon became clear that she had been sold a pup (what is that expression? What’s wrong with a pup?!) and that she wasn’t living in Windsor Castle, couldn’t get freebies or merch, and worst of all had to spend time with -shudder - members of the public .

sausawyee · 28/07/2024 17:45

@CoffeeCantata it's an interesting one. Has it developed as you say because of that showbiz background? Is it even to do with the difficulties she has spoken about as a bi racial woman in that world? Is it to do with her father splitting up with her mother and having a new family? Many people go through these events though and do not go on to be users. She does seem to have flitted from person to person as she has " moved up the ladder"

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Rhaidimiddim · 28/07/2024 17:48

InsomniacIda · 28/07/2024 16:31

I believe this too but the mercenary type of thinking it would take is quite staggering.

A lot of MM's behaviour since 2020 has been quite staggering.

Rhaidimiddim · 28/07/2024 17:50

CoffeeCantata · 28/07/2024 17:11

Someone somewhere said 'Meghan is a top predator. She's hunted and got herself a prize piece of meat, and now she's run away to eat it in private!'

I'm sorry, but that did make me titter. The thought of Meghan, with bloody fangs, tearing chunks off Harry and growling at anyone who came near him!

The claw...

Rhaidimiddim · 28/07/2024 17:54

MaturingCheeseball · 28/07/2024 17:31

I’m not sure that Meghan intended all along to run back to California - I think like pp said that she planned to milk her position for all it was worth. She kept her PR and business people, and was apparently in talks with Oprah before the wedding.

But… it soon became clear that she had been sold a pup (what is that expression? What’s wrong with a pup?!) and that she wasn’t living in Windsor Castle, couldn’t get freebies or merch, and worst of all had to spend time with -shudder - members of the public .

AND that her high-profile, scion-of-a-hugely-wealthy-family prize was worth, in his own right..... a measly £10 mil or so. And had no claim at all to the family fortune, and had to get Dad to pay for her frocks.
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Theinflictuswithrictusgames · 28/07/2024 18:08

CoffeeCantata · 28/07/2024 17:20

Sunlime · Today 17:15

I don't know whether that names of the so-called royal 'racists' (accusation later rescinded, but mega damage already done) were supposed to come out, and whether that was a cock-up or a conspiracy on OS's part. Perhaps H & M were hoping to keep that bit of information hanging over the RF's head, and somehow, it got out.

I'm surprised they've dumped him because I would guess he knows quite a lot that he could monetise!!

Well Andrew Lownie of The Scandal Mongers podcast - thought of very highly in these parts - is pretty adamant that a “mistake” occurring in the smallest market where the fewest books would need to be pulped is no mistake at all. And the matter of how those names appeared in any manuscript has never been explained.

Theinflictuswithrictusgames · 28/07/2024 18:15

CoffeeCantata · 28/07/2024 17:14

TheInflictus
Also in Endgame, the blame for Meghan not receiving help for her mental health is pinned on Catherine.

Oh my God! How on earth did he come to that conclusion? Utterly bizarre to the point of being surreal. (I've never had the pleasure of reading Scobie's oeuvre.)

It's almost as if someone was feeding him information - someone who had a grudge against Catherine.

Oh it’s a part of the narrative of Catherine being a cold hearted, stuck up bitch. It’s clear who’s feeding him this bilge.

CoffeeCantata · 28/07/2024 18:45

Oh it’s a part of the narrative of Catherine being a cold hearted, stuck up bitch. It’s clear who’s feeding him this bilge.

Definitely! Why on earth would Scobie himself have any kind of opinion about Catherine - never mind such a venomous one? All this must be as clear as day to W and C, and I just don't think what M and H have done to them can be atoned for.

CoffeeCantata · 28/07/2024 18:56

Meghan brought up the “Waitey Katey” label in her Oprah interview and insinuated that that was the extent of the mistreatment Kate received from the press, completely minimising all the physical harassment, abuse and gross invasions of privacy her sister in law did have to live through for 10 years.

I agree with your entire post.

It's so fascinating to watch the games Meghan plays. It's a nasty trick, isn't it, to say something like 'People call her Waity Katie, but that's so mean!'

I've witnessed people say things like that followed by performative sympathy They get 2 points for this: the disingenuously repeated insult and then claiming to be shocked and sympathethic.

It's like saying 'People say Kate's mean, hard, snobbish, cold etc etc, but I think that's just mean!' Then why bring it up in the first place?

I remember from the OW interview Meghan said 'But Kate's a good person really'. Hmmm. Damned by faint praise etc Very manipulative stuff.

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