WeAreInvictus - X

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A fitting endorsement from Fred Hargreaves OBE who on X wrote, “As ever, a genuine and heart-felt speech from the Duke of Sussex - the driving force and passion behind the #InvictusGames. So good to see this Award, and share the stage with Elizabeth, Kirsty and Israel.”

From the Royal Website, how the ‘driving force’ - Harry - brought Invictus into being:

https://www.royal.uk/invictus-games

Positive Harry posts have been flooding X. Haters were out too. Some negatively posting in a quasi-forensic manner. No ‘gotcha’ revelations, however, nor tens of thousands of likes which the repost of Harry’s speech on ESPN by the knowledgeable Robert Griffin III now has. In less than 2 days 51+K likes and still rising.

I also checked out some (too many) #Sussexsquad posters. It revealed teachers, veterans, different nationalities, colours, creeds, nurses, retired folk etc etc. Thus I formed a completely different understanding about the use of the hashtag to support the Sussex family. There were also very strange users of the hashtag too. The hashtag was additionally utilised to send the message out on X to put the anti-Harry and Meghan posters or ‘derangers’, as they are often called, on mute and not to engage. Quite a restrained and civil position to promote and many did just that. Invictus awareness was successfully brought to those who had never heard of the international fraternity of veterans with disabilities and injuries by this hashtag alone.

Watching the videos on X I saw Harry speak with sincerity and humility under pressure. His words, “The truth is, I stand here not as Prince Harry, Pat Tillman Award recipient, but rather a voice on behalf of the Invictus Games Foundation and the thousands of veterans and service personnel from over 20 nations who have made the Invictus Games a reality. This award belongs to them. Not to me.”

Harry has now been awarded, by a very diverse online presence, a new respect. And I do believe he’s also a jolly good fellow…and so say many, many, many of us. 😊💙

I am so glad I went on my very new X twitter account for I was disgusted with the Daily Mail’s use of Pat Tillman’s mother to denigrate Prince Harry as it was totally uncalled for. Call it for what it was - a hit piece of journalism designed to create a mini storm online. We know nothing about the context of how they obtained words supposedly said by Pat’s mother about Harrry. I was aghast too at how Pat’s widow has also been treated by some online posters. Her foundation may not be perfect but she does more than anyone to honour him. Pat’s mother also did not go on any mainstream American media either where her complaints would have been listened to and would have provided the much needed context for the hate motivated article by a newspaper under the spotlight for its nefarious journalism and click bait articles about Harry.

Harry’s response was beautiful. The way Harry acknowledged Pat’s mother went further than him being a royal. It was a standout out moment of what being human is all about. I do believe he’s also a jolly good fellow…and so say many, many, many of us. 😊💙

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I don't think the pandemic made much difference. Maybe there would have been more deals in the initial aftermath of the flounce, but ultimately it comes down to what they can offer.

And all they have is their connection to the RF, and as soon as they left that could only diminish over time.

Their fundamental problem is that they can't deliver on anything else - if they could then they would have shown something by now. Some sort of direction or content that they could build on.

But the only 'successes' have been gossip about the RF, getting lots of views/buyers, but not something to build long term success on because it isn't anything they have achieved, or because of any particular talent they have. They just don't have anything to offer except for the relationships they have trashed, and that would have been the case without the pandemic

I think they would have done different things if they had transitioned straight from the family into after dinner speaking, instead of being locked down for months. They lost momentum with everything that went on and were left scratching around for relevance with the world having more important things to focus on.

I wonder if the Oprah interview would have been as sensationalist if they didn't have to create attention. If that had gone differently I wonder if Spare would have happened at all.

I could be wrong of course but I feel without the enforce hiatus it could have been a more positive thing for them. Harry would have had less time to navel gaze and nurse grievances.

The after dinner speaking wouldn’t have lasted long because there was no content apart from Mummy Died and My Family are Horrid in the case of Harry, and Meghan it would have been They’re all Racist and Hate Me. There’s only so much mileage to be had from that. They have milked it for all they’re worth and there is nothing in the locker now. They’ve actually made a lot of money from the whining , more than they would have done on the after dinner circuit , and its lasted longer .

Seconded! 😂

And, to coincide with the announcement that Invictus is coming to Birmingham, Meghan gets papped out for dinner with a pal.

Question: is she now competing with her husband? She did a similar thing with the Diana awards, which was her husband's show, as much as William's.

Isn’t her being papped times to coincide with George’s birthday?

It’s so predictable. She must sit there plotting her pap shots.

I know! 🤣 I find them very entertaining.

I agree there is the potential for serious trouble. I attended an innocuous non political event in London and there had to be extra security due to "Palestinian" protestors. We really don't want the UK to turn into parts of Europe where certain places have to be protected by armed guards.

Ooh, two for one!

But I only saw mention of the latest papping today, so too late to sink George's pic.

I do hope that they come for the "year before" event and speak to indigenous British people about their socio economic problems, in an effort to resolve them.

Doubtful. I don’t think he cares one jot for the hoi polloi of the UK who can’t buy food or get their bins emptied. It will be their own fault for Brexit and reading the DM. Some tribes just don’t count - and will be ignored because they don’t make him look good - much like the Baka.

Yes. It's very selective, and very hypocritical.

The after dinner speaking wouldn’t have lasted long because there was no content apart from Mummy Died

I think the after dinner speaking was only ever intended to be a short term fix until they could get all the other shiny deals they were sure were coming their way into their portfolio.

Harold trousered a hefty £750k for his first and as it transpired only dinner date and while he did indeed play the Mummy card I think several more engagements along the same lines and before those booking realised they were being sold reheated leftovers would certainly have kept them afloat until they could build up steam.

I think they would have done different things if they had transitioned straight from the family into after dinner speaking, instead of being locked down for months

Maybe, but then as others have said, what would they have spoken about?
Apart from word salad about compassion - which certainly isn't reflected in their own choices - their entire schtick centres on how hard done to they are, and as we've seen that'll only gain traction for so long

Edited to add that since it became clear the Oprah interview was being planned even before Covid hit, it seems likely the "woe is me" approach was always the one they intended to take to make money

As for Invictus coming to Birmingham, it's a good thing to see the UK involved in something so worthwhile - though god knows how Birmingham of all places will pay for it
What worries me though is the potential for it to be overshadowed yet again by this pair and the predictable carry-on over whether Meghan will come, will Harry visit the family and all the rest

Allegedly the city isn’t paying. See the BBC article at the beginning of the thread 😆

I know, smilesy - I read the link you were kind enough to post earlier - but I'll be absolutely amazed if in reality it doesn't cost Birmingham a great deal

To say nothing of how it may look to all those who've been told "We can't afford that ..."

I was thinking that the after dinner speaking would produce networking which would create opportunities.

A less negative start than Oprah.

Reading these comments though I'm starting to think I'm being overly optimistic

I think they always planned to monetise the mythical "victimhood". They couldn't get their own way? Blame the RF. Lots of opportunity to be negative, critical and dishonest for cash.

Actually, that's a good point. I don't know about Harry, but Meghan has definitely shown contempt for the peasants of the UK on a number of occasions (clearing a seating area at Wimbledon, leaving the garden party when she realised it was basically about talking to ordinary people which, as we know, is incredibly boring, and of course declaring that her £36m wedding was just a spectacle for the 'masses').

Potentially, yes, but then to network successfully they'd need to have something to offer beyond endless anecdotes amounting to "poor me", and so far we're really not seeing it

I've sometimes wondered if, deep down, they know themselves just how little they can bring to the table - which would certainly explain Oprah being cultivated almost from the start

Do you think they have that level of self reflection, @Puzzledandpissedoff ? I would be inclined to think not.

In all honesty no, but remembering that I don't know them personally and that this involves a very worthwhile cause I try to hang onto hope that this time will be different - though with each crass choice that hope's getting very thin now

It's also why I'm coming more and more to the view that Invictus might do better with a different Patron, while recognising that's their chouce to make

I agree with you about Invictus, they're actually damaging it.