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King Charles III

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ConstantGarden1 · 01/07/2024 22:58

Will he?

I am no gambler but I can’t see it myself. Not unless he wants to show his support of his son. Would KC be that generous to his ‘darling boy’? If he did it will definitely upset some anti Harry royalists/daily mail readers/ right wing Americans. Can’t have Harry receiving the King surely….he is supposed to be beyond the pale these days.

William is reported as being ‘baffled’. Baffled? More like blazingly angry about it if true. I guess Will’s thought he could act like a ‘cuckoo’ and get Harry out now and forever. Maybe, the ‘bullying’ trait reported over the years by many, many people regarding him is still there.

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/style/king-charles-discussions-visit-prince-130106673.html

King Charles 'in discussions' to visit Prince Harry for first time in years - as 'reason' behind trip revealed

King Charles is said to be in discussions to visit his estranged son Prince Harry in America for the first time in years - but his wife and Prince William are reportedly not happy

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/style/king-charles-discussions-visit-prince-130106673.html

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smilesy · 04/07/2024 21:12

Recuperation7 · 04/07/2024 21:05

They could have made a blanket announcement denouncing “ludicrous speculation” and defended her a bit better imho.

They did issue a statement saying that things had not changed since they had originally said she would out of action until at least Easter, but clearly many were unable to understand this. How can you defend someone against those who don’t want to understand? And how many times should you have to repeat this explanation? As I said, other people are not their problem

TicTacToes · 04/07/2024 21:13

Recuperation7 · 04/07/2024 20:40

No I am not!

I am beginning to think you are being deliberately goady to drive me off the thread.

I don’t want to argue with you but quite a few people are pulling my posts apart and I have a right to defend myself.

So apologies to the more reasonable members of Mumsnet who are reading this and getting thoroughly bored by the back and forth!

The following words posted by you
Makemydaypunk are patently ridiculous:

“what would have suited you? live coverage from the consultants room? William making a statement on the steps of hospital immediately after receiving the news?”

Some of the anti-Harry brigade are masquerading as pro Royal based only on the ‘working’ royals. They are doing what they claim you are doing and beating you over the head with the Catherine stick just to a. Have a go at the man yet again b. vent to let out steam connected to their own issues and c. ensure this site never develops a core support for him. I’ve seen them do it time and again. Some do leave others just change their name.

There are some ‘derangers’ here who conflate everything and cannot stay on topic. Unlike a few anti-Harry posters who see the SS everywhere I do not see all anti-Harry posters as deranged and obsessive though.

GardeningIsntScrapingForSussex · 04/07/2024 21:14

I don’t see how they would have had to acknowledge the ludicrous speculation with air.

It also allowed the terminally idiotic to show everyone exactly who they were.

Handy that.

GardeningIsntScrapingForSussex · 04/07/2024 21:15

I want cake.

Just some.

Not every day or anything.

Makemydaypunk · 04/07/2024 21:16

CurlewKate · 04/07/2024 20:57

I do find it a little strange that suggesting the comms were very badly handled and made things more difficult for the Princess of Wales is seen as an attack on the Princess of Wales....

Because it is an attack on the Princess of Wales, she is the human being at the centre of all this, and she will have been the one who would have had to decide how to handle the international utter furore that surrounded her, the communications team would not have acted independently of Catherine’s wishes.

IcedPurple · 04/07/2024 21:17

IcedPurple · 04/07/2024 21:11

And what about the republican royal you support?

What could he do to mitigate the 'vitriol' against him? The 'vitriol' which bothers you so much, despite you not reading 'gossipy papers' and the like?

What's your analysis of the press strategy of the Office of the Duke and Duchess of Sussex?

A dignified blanket statement or two apologising for the lack of info,

Only two?

Why not three?

Why not daily updates?

Why not, as someone suggested above, livestreams from the hospital?

What on earth do you mean by 'apologising for the lack of info'? Nobody, no matter how famous they are, is under any obligation to share the details of their private medical affairs with the public. Kate didn't owe us any information whatsoever, let alone an 'apology' for lack thereof.

You're really not doing well here.

Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstomycar · 04/07/2024 21:18

Nothing, absolutely no interim statement, would have calmed down speculation, because the speculation was being engineered by people who did not want any truth, only people who wanted to attack the RF and Catherine most particularly by any means necessary, using any absurd conspiracy theory necessary, the more disgusting and disturbing the better - namely the Sussex Squad. And that obviously absurd shit came to this board and was very much supported by so called republican for their light entertainment. And it didn’t stop after Catherine made her televised statement about a deeply personal health issue that is nobody’s business, least of all the business of people who pedal misogynistic filth in the name of republicanism and/or in the name of defending a delusional addict and his grasping wife.

Recuperation7 · 04/07/2024 21:19

IcedPurple · 04/07/2024 21:11

And what about the republican royal you support?

What could he do to mitigate the 'vitriol' against him? The 'vitriol' which bothers you so much, despite you not reading 'gossipy papers' and the like?

What's your analysis of the press strategy of the Office of the Duke and Duchess of Sussex?

I don’t need to read gossipy tabloid newspapers to see criticism of H& M! That’s rather my point because it is ubiquitous and everywhere! I mainly see it on Mumsnet!

As for their official statements: I think they are worded rather well and I say that as someone who used to work in Comms very briefly.

Of course, you can’t actually look many of them up very easily if you Google them because they have been drowned out by all of the negativity.

I remember them making a rather good statement about all of the negative stories and comment continuing while they were just trying to live their life as best they could and I remember thinking it was worded rather eloquently and that they had good Comms but can I find it now? No I can’t!

AliceOlive · 04/07/2024 21:24

TicTacToes · 04/07/2024 18:41

To be clear, one can talk about Harry in a supportive manner without trolling anyone else. I believe Harry loves Kate.

Harry’s behavior toward Catherine has been absolutely toxic. We hear he’s confused about why no one wants him around, so I do believe he thinks he loves her. But who would want that kind of “love” in their life?

Makemydaypunk · 04/07/2024 21:24

Of course, you can’t actually look many of them up very easily if you Google them because they have been drowned out by all of the negativity.

Their statements should be easy to find surely? Have you looked on Archewell or the Office of the Duke and Duchess of Sussex, anything they have issued should be on there?

CurlewKate · 04/07/2024 21:24

@Makemydaypunk So saying that she was let down by the people whose literal JOB is to protect her is an attack on her? Blimey.

IcedPurple · 04/07/2024 21:25

Recuperation7 · 04/07/2024 21:19

I don’t need to read gossipy tabloid newspapers to see criticism of H& M! That’s rather my point because it is ubiquitous and everywhere! I mainly see it on Mumsnet!

As for their official statements: I think they are worded rather well and I say that as someone who used to work in Comms very briefly.

Of course, you can’t actually look many of them up very easily if you Google them because they have been drowned out by all of the negativity.

I remember them making a rather good statement about all of the negative stories and comment continuing while they were just trying to live their life as best they could and I remember thinking it was worded rather eloquently and that they had good Comms but can I find it now? No I can’t!

That’s rather my point because it is ubiquitous and everywhere!

Everywhere?

Really?

The only place I find people talking about them is this board or other royal discussion forums. If I didn't come here, I wouldn't have a clue what people were saying about them or indeed any of the royals. You have to seek out this sort of thing. Which you clearly do, despite your claims to the contrary.

As for their official statements: I think they are worded rather well and I say that as someone who used to work in Comms very briefly.

Very briefly I'm sure.

And what do you mean 'official'? They are private citizens.

I remember them making a rather good statement about all of the negative stories and comment continuing while they were just trying to live their life as best they could and I remember thinking it was worded rather eloquently and that they had good Comms but can I find it now? No I can’t!

I think our opinions on what constitutes eloquence are as different as our opinions on what constitutes republicanism.

Recuperation7 · 04/07/2024 21:26

Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstomycar · 04/07/2024 21:18

Nothing, absolutely no interim statement, would have calmed down speculation, because the speculation was being engineered by people who did not want any truth, only people who wanted to attack the RF and Catherine most particularly by any means necessary, using any absurd conspiracy theory necessary, the more disgusting and disturbing the better - namely the Sussex Squad. And that obviously absurd shit came to this board and was very much supported by so called republican for their light entertainment. And it didn’t stop after Catherine made her televised statement about a deeply personal health issue that is nobody’s business, least of all the business of people who pedal misogynistic filth in the name of republicanism and/or in the name of defending a delusional addict and his grasping wife.

Well there we have to respectfully disagree Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstomycar

I think most of the speculation was generated because a vacuum of information = a vacuum of income for sordid news media outlets.

No doubt some of the people you mention used the vacuum in a scurrilous way but please don’t group factions together unfairly and incorrectly.

I certainly did not do that and I am a Republican for example.

Recuperation7 · 04/07/2024 21:27

Makemydaypunk · 04/07/2024 21:24

Of course, you can’t actually look many of them up very easily if you Google them because they have been drowned out by all of the negativity.

Their statements should be easy to find surely? Have you looked on Archewell or the Office of the Duke and Duchess of Sussex, anything they have issued should be on there?

Thank you I will have a look when I have an idle moment from defending my posts here 😀

Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstomycar · 04/07/2024 21:30

Nope. It was fuelled by social media ghouls from the SS, picked up by American tabloids and picked up subsequently by UK press. And disgusting theories about Catherine and her marriage were repeated on these boards by people who call themselves republicans.

I note you still haven’t answered my question @Recuperation7 : why not post about republicanism on the politics board?

Recuperation7 · 04/07/2024 21:31

IcedPurple · 04/07/2024 21:25

That’s rather my point because it is ubiquitous and everywhere!

Everywhere?

Really?

The only place I find people talking about them is this board or other royal discussion forums. If I didn't come here, I wouldn't have a clue what people were saying about them or indeed any of the royals. You have to seek out this sort of thing. Which you clearly do, despite your claims to the contrary.

As for their official statements: I think they are worded rather well and I say that as someone who used to work in Comms very briefly.

Very briefly I'm sure.

And what do you mean 'official'? They are private citizens.

I remember them making a rather good statement about all of the negative stories and comment continuing while they were just trying to live their life as best they could and I remember thinking it was worded rather eloquently and that they had good Comms but can I find it now? No I can’t!

I think our opinions on what constitutes eloquence are as different as our opinions on what constitutes republicanism.

Please carry on point scoring if it makes you happy in some way.

I have replied to everyone as honestly as I can.

Happy to agree to disagree but is it really necessary to be rude and catty though?

Makemydaypunk · 04/07/2024 21:31

CurlewKate · 04/07/2024 21:24

@Makemydaypunk So saying that she was let down by the people whose literal JOB is to protect her is an attack on her? Blimey.

Yes of course it is an attack on her.

GardeningIsntScrapingForSussex · 04/07/2024 21:32

Happy to agree to disagree but is it really necessary to be rude and catty though?

Says the person calling others rude and catty.

And yapping on about ‘point scoring’.

TicTacToes · 04/07/2024 21:33

Recuperation7 · 04/07/2024 19:02

Yes, exactly this!

Edited to say: I think Harry had great affection for Katherine, not sure about love!

Edited

I think Harry loves too much sometimes. The scales, however, fell from his eyes regarding how some of the ‘working’ royals were behaving behind the scenes when Meghan entered the space. He has grown tremendously, owned his past mistakes and bigotry and worked on his worldview. He stays the course with his philanthropic endeavours too. I think parts of the UK can’t believe how he is still going strong and staying in the game of life. He is winning every day. Plus getting better PR support than the grey men ever gave him. He may no longer be the most popular royal but he sure is showing greater depth, savvy, happiness and spirit than when he was under the thumb of the establishment machine. It is a bit of a rodeo ride being in America. We love a good bust up. In the end though we welcome a spirited warrior who had the balls to break out and protect his own family. Even now the UK press can’t let his name go….every second article leading with a Harry headline ends up talking about another main ‘working’ royal. They still need Prince H to draw the clicks for their money. Harry just needs himself.

It was good to see him do a walkabout a few months ago at St Paul’s for the ten year INVICTUS anniversary. Signs held aloft, smiles and cheers, calls of ‘We love you Harry’ and a man showing real confidence and ease. Made me proud to be a supporter.

Recuperation7 · 04/07/2024 21:34

Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstomycar · 04/07/2024 21:30

Nope. It was fuelled by social media ghouls from the SS, picked up by American tabloids and picked up subsequently by UK press. And disgusting theories about Catherine and her marriage were repeated on these boards by people who call themselves republicans.

I note you still haven’t answered my question @Recuperation7 : why not post about republicanism on the politics board?

Because this is not about politics in general but very specifically about the Monarchy!

Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstomycar · 04/07/2024 21:34

Makemydaypunk · 04/07/2024 21:31

Yes of course it is an attack on her.

Also deeply misogynistic. Implying Catherine has no agency in the statements put out about her.

smilesy · 04/07/2024 21:34

CurlewKate · 04/07/2024 21:24

@Makemydaypunk So saying that she was let down by the people whose literal JOB is to protect her is an attack on her? Blimey.

No, it’s because the decision as to what information about her health should
be made public is up to Catherine and not her advisers. They would have acted
at her request in this instance. But this has been said several times. You don’t seem to
want to understand 🤷‍♀️

GardeningIsntScrapingForSussex · 04/07/2024 21:35

Harry loves only himself.

There is a world of difference between loving and foofstruck.

IcedPurple · 04/07/2024 21:36

CurlewKate · 04/07/2024 21:24

@Makemydaypunk So saying that she was let down by the people whose literal JOB is to protect her is an attack on her? Blimey.

Yes, because people were using their 'interest in the Comms angle' to justify all sorts of lurid theories.

We see it right here on this thread. A poster terribly offended by 'vitriol' towards certain royals isn't bothered by really nasty speculation about another royal, instead preferring to criticise her office because they did not 'apologise' for not giving daily updates on her condition to the public.

Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstomycar · 04/07/2024 21:37

@Recuperation7 . It is about the monarchy as an institution. This board largely talks about individual personalties within it. So you would be better off in politics if you want to talk about abolishing the institution and replacing it with an elected head of state. Are you suggesting that abolishing the monarchy will have no knock on effect on politics holistically? How absurd.