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King Charles III

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ConstantGarden1 · 01/07/2024 22:58

Will he?

I am no gambler but I can’t see it myself. Not unless he wants to show his support of his son. Would KC be that generous to his ‘darling boy’? If he did it will definitely upset some anti Harry royalists/daily mail readers/ right wing Americans. Can’t have Harry receiving the King surely….he is supposed to be beyond the pale these days.

William is reported as being ‘baffled’. Baffled? More like blazingly angry about it if true. I guess Will’s thought he could act like a ‘cuckoo’ and get Harry out now and forever. Maybe, the ‘bullying’ trait reported over the years by many, many people regarding him is still there.

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/style/king-charles-discussions-visit-prince-130106673.html

King Charles 'in discussions' to visit Prince Harry for first time in years - as 'reason' behind trip revealed

King Charles is said to be in discussions to visit his estranged son Prince Harry in America for the first time in years - but his wife and Prince William are reportedly not happy

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/style/king-charles-discussions-visit-prince-130106673.html

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Recuperation7 · 04/07/2024 20:26

Makemydaypunk · 04/07/2024 20:22

It was too long between announcements sadly given the voracious, and unscrupulous in many cases, 7/24 hr news cycle.

I am not saying that is right. I am saying it is the reality of modern day news media and sm.

You are saying it’s right though, you have blamed the Palace and Catherine for not making her cancer diagnosis public quickly enough, what would have suited you? live coverage from the consultants room? William making a statement on the steps of hospital immediately after receiving the news? What is your ideal timeframe? Basically you are saying it’s Catherine’s fault that she was horrendously bullied because she didn’t announce her cancer diagnosis quickly enough and yet you hate the “bullying” of Harry and Meghan, can you actually hear yourself?

No I haven’t said that at all. You are being deliberately ridiculous!

GardeningIsntScrapingForSussex · 04/07/2024 20:27

I’m not on any gossipy sites.

i read enough of the comments on here. From those rubbing themselves with glee at being able to repeat them.

Still, it gave me a bit of a laugh when one gobshite had the bollocks to declare they forgave themselves for being a gossipy cunt.

And they weren’t even funning.

IcedPurple · 04/07/2024 20:27

I am NOT saying that it is incumbent on C or C’s team, to reveal anything about her illness that she doesn’t want to,

That seems to me to be exactly what you are saying.

smilesy · 04/07/2024 20:28

Recuperation7 · 04/07/2024 20:25

Of course I am not happy about that. Don’t be absurd. And again, thanks very much for incorrectly assuming something so crass about me!

I am saying her team should have handled the comms better for her.

And if they had certain obstacles to doing that such as uncertainty, they could have made a statement that was more open, such as once the situation was clearer they will inform the media when a statement will be made. . There are better ways of handling these things.

I am NOT saying that it is incumbent on C or C’s team, to reveal anything about her illness that she doesn’t want to, as that is private information, but if things are uncertain, it’s better to be honest about that, if that’s all the info you have currently.

Even if the situation is clear and they have all the information, they don’t have to say anything. It’s not their problem if things seem “uncertain” to others

PrincessMee · 04/07/2024 20:30

Things WERE uncertain and they WERE communicated so have no idea what you are going on about. In specifics what would you have done differently? It was pretty clear for most people that she was ill and should be allowed privacy. It was communicated when she would possibly come back to public life. Sadly so many used this life changing event as an excuse for a dig at the RF. They didn't care about Catherine or her family. All they wanted was a cheap dig. I cannot comprehend a mind like this.

Makemydaypunk · 04/07/2024 20:32

Recuperation7 · 04/07/2024 20:26

No I haven’t said that at all. You are being deliberately ridiculous!

It not just me who has read your posts as victim blaming Catherine, that is exactly what you are doing on this thread.

PrincessMee · 04/07/2024 20:32

@Recuperation7 we do see it. It is glaringly obvious.

Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstomycar · 04/07/2024 20:32

I am NOT saying that it is incumbent on C or C’s team, to reveal anything about her illness that she doesn’t want to, as that is private information, but if things are uncertain, it’s better to be honest about that, if that’s all the info you have currently.

You are completely contradicting yourself.

PrincessMee · 04/07/2024 20:38

This is what happens @Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstomycar when people try a two pronged approach - there's the bit that is so supportive then there is the obvious veiled attack. This is why they tie themselves in knots.

Recuperation7 · 04/07/2024 20:40

Makemydaypunk · 04/07/2024 20:32

It not just me who has read your posts as victim blaming Catherine, that is exactly what you are doing on this thread.

No I am not!

I am beginning to think you are being deliberately goady to drive me off the thread.

I don’t want to argue with you but quite a few people are pulling my posts apart and I have a right to defend myself.

So apologies to the more reasonable members of Mumsnet who are reading this and getting thoroughly bored by the back and forth!

The following words posted by you
Makemydaypunk are patently ridiculous:

“what would have suited you? live coverage from the consultants room? William making a statement on the steps of hospital immediately after receiving the news?”

PrincessMee · 04/07/2024 20:47

To quote you

"I don’t want to argue with you but quite a few people are pulling my posts apart and I have a right to defend myself."

Surely though those people you accuse are just doing the same thing as you ? They also have a right to defend their viewpoints. Trying to call that " goady" is an attempt to close down the discussion. Are you saying you are being " goady" in doing so yourself?

Makemydaypunk · 04/07/2024 20:52

It’s called being facetious treating serious issues with deliberately inappropriate humour; flippant. though I’m surprised I’ve had to explain 🙄. No one is driving you off the threads, now that is a ridiculous statement, you have the right to “defend” yourself as you so put it, equally we have the right to challenge you.

Recuperation7 · 04/07/2024 20:54

To answer several of you all at once, I am not victim blaming and I am not coiling myself in to knots either. 😀

To clarify, I am saying that to expect the media, and sm, to remain respectfully quiet for three months, or however long it was, was expecting too much in this hideous age of perpetual news coverage.

I am not saying that’s right. I personally think that she should have been given the space she needed to work things out. I am saying that this is the reality in this day and age of ugly, money-voracious news reporting.

Imho, C’s team could have made several interim statements denouncing speculation and asking everyone to be patient and state that there were serious reasons behind this request.

I am saying they could have handled it differently. and honestly state they needed more time and ask the public to get on side. It should not be necessary to do this but it would have been sensible imho.

There isn’t the automatic deference for Monarchy any more that there used to be and that’s just fact.

That’s my opinion. Please note that, however you try and deliberate misinterpret it, it contains absolutely NOTHING personal against Catherine herself and I hope she takes her time to recover properly.

CurlewKate · 04/07/2024 20:57

I do find it a little strange that suggesting the comms were very badly handled and made things more difficult for the Princess of Wales is seen as an attack on the Princess of Wales....

Recuperation7 · 04/07/2024 20:57

And yes everyone has the right to defend their differing positions on here!

But I am the one being asked to not only defend my positions more than most, but to justify my presence on this thread!

Makemydaypunk · 04/07/2024 20:58

Imho, C’s team could have made several interim statements denouncing speculation and asking everyone to be patient and state that there were serious reasons behind this request.

What a sensible suggestion, that would really have calmed the hysteria down 🙄

Recuperation7 · 04/07/2024 20:58

CurlewKate · 04/07/2024 20:57

I do find it a little strange that suggesting the comms were very badly handled and made things more difficult for the Princess of Wales is seen as an attack on the Princess of Wales....

Thank you CurlewKate

You make the point better than me!

PrincessMee · 04/07/2024 21:01

@Recuperation7 why on earth would KP issue in response to all the sheer garbage that came out during this time?

Catherine has not been beaten into a coma.
Catherine is alive and well.
Catherine is not divorcing William.
Catherine is not having a Brazilian butt lift .

That would be ludicrous.

Recuperation7 · 04/07/2024 21:03

Makemydaypunk · 04/07/2024 20:58

Imho, C’s team could have made several interim statements denouncing speculation and asking everyone to be patient and state that there were serious reasons behind this request.

What a sensible suggestion, that would really have calmed the hysteria down 🙄

I don’t entirely disagree. Please note I can disagree without eye rolling btw.

Bit a couple more statements might have been slightly better than a long silence. At least something would have filled the vacuum other than trolls!

smilesy · 04/07/2024 21:04

CurlewKate · 04/07/2024 20:57

I do find it a little strange that suggesting the comms were very badly handled and made things more difficult for the Princess of Wales is seen as an attack on the Princess of Wales....

Well presumably she was the one who didn’t want to put info out before she had told her children, so suggesting the comms was badly handled is de facto attacking her decision making in this case. If they had put out an interim statement saying that they weren’t certain how things were, not only would it be like to have got back to the children but it would also have led to even more wild speculation, if that were possible

Recuperation7 · 04/07/2024 21:05

PrincessMee · 04/07/2024 21:01

@Recuperation7 why on earth would KP issue in response to all the sheer garbage that came out during this time?

Catherine has not been beaten into a coma.
Catherine is alive and well.
Catherine is not divorcing William.
Catherine is not having a Brazilian butt lift .

That would be ludicrous.

They could have made a blanket announcement denouncing “ludicrous speculation” and defended her a bit better imho.

Makemydaypunk · 04/07/2024 21:05

PrincessMee · 04/07/2024 21:01

@Recuperation7 why on earth would KP issue in response to all the sheer garbage that came out during this time?

Catherine has not been beaten into a coma.
Catherine is alive and well.
Catherine is not divorcing William.
Catherine is not having a Brazilian butt lift .

That would be ludicrous.

Don’t forget to add to the denial list
William has not murdered Thomas Kingston
Catherine is not pregnant by Thomas Kingston
Rose Cholmondeley is not pregnant by William

Makemydaypunk · 04/07/2024 21:07

Recuperation7 · 04/07/2024 21:03

I don’t entirely disagree. Please note I can disagree without eye rolling btw.

Bit a couple more statements might have been slightly better than a long silence. At least something would have filled the vacuum other than trolls!

I like eye rolls, they convey so much.

IcedPurple · 04/07/2024 21:11

Recuperation7 · 04/07/2024 20:54

To answer several of you all at once, I am not victim blaming and I am not coiling myself in to knots either. 😀

To clarify, I am saying that to expect the media, and sm, to remain respectfully quiet for three months, or however long it was, was expecting too much in this hideous age of perpetual news coverage.

I am not saying that’s right. I personally think that she should have been given the space she needed to work things out. I am saying that this is the reality in this day and age of ugly, money-voracious news reporting.

Imho, C’s team could have made several interim statements denouncing speculation and asking everyone to be patient and state that there were serious reasons behind this request.

I am saying they could have handled it differently. and honestly state they needed more time and ask the public to get on side. It should not be necessary to do this but it would have been sensible imho.

There isn’t the automatic deference for Monarchy any more that there used to be and that’s just fact.

That’s my opinion. Please note that, however you try and deliberate misinterpret it, it contains absolutely NOTHING personal against Catherine herself and I hope she takes her time to recover properly.

And what about the republican royal you support?

What could he do to mitigate the 'vitriol' against him? The 'vitriol' which bothers you so much, despite you not reading 'gossipy papers' and the like?

What's your analysis of the press strategy of the Office of the Duke and Duchess of Sussex?

Recuperation7 · 04/07/2024 21:11

smilesy · 04/07/2024 21:04

Well presumably she was the one who didn’t want to put info out before she had told her children, so suggesting the comms was badly handled is de facto attacking her decision making in this case. If they had put out an interim statement saying that they weren’t certain how things were, not only would it be like to have got back to the children but it would also have led to even more wild speculation, if that were possible

We don’t know who was in charge of her PR strategy do we? I assume she would have taken advice and it was at least a collaborative effort, or the decision may have been out of her hands to some degree? we don’t know if her state of health at the time allowed her to be fully engaged in it.

So suggesting the strategy was wrong it is definitely is not a de facto criticism of her, however much you are determined to accuse me of that.

A dignified blanket statement or two apologising for the lack of info, appealing for more patience, and saying there were serious reasons behind this request would have been a better strategy imho.