Camilla snubs Brigitte Macron at D-Day Anniversary, rejecting her gesture of warmth

[TallerSally]

Well, isn't this a funny one.

Foreign heads of state are under no obligation to respect protocols of foreign royalty, particularly in their own country.

Seems Camilla didn't get the memo:

"Queen Camilla, 76, and Brigitte, 71, had an awkward moment on June 6 during a service marking the 80th anniversary of the D-Day Landings in Normandy, France. As seen in a video shared to X by the Daily Mail, French President Emmanuel Macron's wife tried to hold the royal's hand after they laid wreaths at the British Normandy Memorial at Ver-sur-Mer. However, Queen Camilla didn't reciprocate, keeping her arm at her side. After briefly grasping the royal's hand, Brigitte stepped to the side and folded her arms in front of her.
Proper etiquette around interacting with the British royals has long been a highly discussed subject. The royal family's website, which has yet to be updated in full following the death of Queen Elizabeth in September 2022, states, "There are no obligatory codes of behavior when meeting The Queen or a member of the royal family, but many people wish to observe the traditional forms."

Funnily enough, Charles himself didn't follow royal protocol:

"Proving that there are no hard and fast rules around how to say hello, King Charles, 75, greeted President Macron with a hug at the British Normandy Memorial and kissed his wife's hand."

I guess Camilla's more royal than the royals themselves?

https://people.com/queen-camilla-brigitte-macron-awkward-moment-royal-avoids-holding-hands-d-day-anniversary-event-france-8659266

Can I just add,
Diana had two sons , something that seems forgotten or brushed aside!
She loved them both .
I do not think she would be very happy as a mother to see one of them slagged off continually and accused of all sorts by other family or not .
And as a supporter of the crown she certainly would not like her son the future king to have his prospects muddied and undermined.

It always needs repeating. William was her son too. There's nothing Harry went through that he didn't also go through where their mother is concerned.

jeffgoldblum · Today 13:44
Can I just add,
Diana had two sons , something that seems forgotten or brushed aside!
She loved them both .
I do not think she would be very happy as a mother to see one of them slagged off continually and accused of all sorts by other family or not .
And as a supporter of the crown she certainly would not like her son the future king to have his prospects muddied and undermined.

I totally agree, Jeff.

It's amazing the double-think you get with SS members. They claim to love Diana, yet get huge enjoyment our of the rift between the brothers. In their strange fantasy world they've also decided (as a matter of irrefutable fact) that Diana would have simply loved Meghan.

Hmmm. I doubt it! She would have hated to see the situation Harry is in just now, and to see him isolated from his entire family. None of us can know, of course, but I think she'd have seen right through Meghan from the first meeting.

Wickedlywearynamechanged · Today 12:59
I don’t hate Charles or Camilla. I just don’t respect them. There is a difference.

Each to their own, but I never can understand why people get sexual morality involved in politics or statesmanship. We all know the history of the King's marriage and that there were many factors which contributed to the mess which resulted. One was the idea that he had to marry a virgin, and was pressured to give up relationships with women he had a genuine connection with - such as Davina Sheffield. It was a misalliance, and Diana, for all her good points, was very different to Charles in her interests and personality.

Despite Charles's faults in the marriage department, I like and respect him because he strikes me as a genuine person who tries to do good in the world. He may appear 'goofy' or stuffy sometimes but I believe he as a good heart and wants to do the best he can. He had a pretty difficult childhood - bullied at school and very isolated at Cambridge - and I'm glad he's found his soul-mate in Camilla.

I feel sorry for Camilla too - she strikes me as a very unassuming person who is doing her best in a really difficult scenario. Being demonised while starting work as Queen in your mid-70s amid family crises must be really tough.

It is entirely possible that H is the way he is because of Diana - not just because of her death.

It may be that, in a desire to make the boys equal , she overindulged and overcompensated regarding her youngest. Understandable but not helpful.

Spoiled children often make for entitled adults.

I still think the men in grey suits/establishment have been very, very careful hiding the true H in plain sight over the years.

We are seeing him in all his supposed glory now.

I’m not sure how M would have been received by Diana. I’m not even sure that M would have been in the picture.

Do I think that Diana would have been upset at the estrangement? Of course. Most mothers would be.

Although that is on H not M. M just gave him the balls to do it. Has she helped? No. Not really. But I think the bitterness and jealousy and entitlement would have shown eventually - with or without her.

I feel sorry for Camilla too - she strikes me as a very unassuming person who is doing her best in a really difficult scenario. Being demonised while starting work as Queen in your mid-70s amid family crises must be really tough.

And I very much agree with this.

It Is never all about her. I very much suspect she has been a source of comfort to both Charles and William even though she will be carrying her own hurt.

A very good point @ShiteSalliesForth , trying to raise them as equal, with the best intentions I'm sure did them no favours now.
I would also add , in my opinion William actually had the worst of it , old enough to see what was going on and understand the feelings involved, famously used as an emotional crutch to his mother and let's be honest she probably dripped a lot of poison in his ear about his father.
He knew his mother intently, yet his opinions and experiences and feelings, discounted, vilified, shoved to one side in favour of strangers opinions about a woman they didn't know personally and a brother who seems intent on airbrushing him out of her history and family connection.

Spoiled children often make for entitled adults.

I still think the men in grey suits/establishment have been very, very careful hiding the true H in plain sight over the years.

We are seeing him in all his supposed glory now.

Quite!

A poster on MN asserted last week that the reason people don't like H & M is because they've never read 'Spare'. They seemed to think it shows Harry in a sympathetic light. This stunned me!

Well I've never read the whole thin on principle but I've read plenty online, and what a horror he comes over as! Bullying, arrogant, aggressive, boorish and uncultured, ignorant, entitled, spoilt, petty, resentful, materialistic, bitchy, misogynistic, ageist, ableist - just some of the impressions I gathered.

I don't know what book these fans have been reading, or what their personal values are, but I agree that the real Harry, living by his own 'truth' sounds like an absolute horror! It's just one more mystery, to me, to add to the craziness surrounding the SS.

I too think William had a difficult burden to carry having been more involved in the latter turbulent years of his mother.

Both men carry their hurt. Both chose to carry it very differently.

And it is merely an opinion but I do think drug use has had a hand in that. For all the shouts of harmless/socially acceptable/fun party times, I do think that substances which affect the brain have the potential to fuck you up. Even more so than mum and dad in this instance.

It is clear though for some that only Harry’s grief and experience matters.

He certainly is pushing that narrative.

Personally I'd never trust a man who believes in talking bins!!!! 🙄

@ShiteSalliesForth no one thinks only Harry's grief matters. But William has not talked about his publicly, so we know very little about its effects on him. Harry has talked about his grief. That is why people talk about Harry's grief.

That was actually such a funny section of the book. It was, of course, told without any self awareness or reflection.

‘No-one thinks that?’ It isn’t the impression I get.

And many on here have thought that H is messed up because of losing his mother in his early years.

William did too and is not messed up.

But thank you so much for your input regarding things I never said.

He's talked about most things. I think we've found out all we need to know about Harry and a good deal more.

Talking bins.
Singing seals.

What next?

Blethering bots?

Oh wait….

Yes, I think we're there already...

I said ‘their children.’ At no point did I mention Harry. I was thinking that the children all paid a price for their parent’s selfish and prolonged actions.

I don’t claim to love Diana. I feel she was a complex imperfect woman, BUT I also see she was treated very unfairly from the start when she was only a teenager and this continued for years. When she wouldn’t/couldn’t tolerate it she was made out to be ‘mad’. The victim was made out to be the perpetrator. (Gaslighting 101)

And talking about ‘Diana seeing right through Meghan right from the first meeting’ ( an opinion often put forward on here), says more about the people who write such misogynistic rubbish than it does about Diana or Meghan.

For the person who asked me to describe the difference between hating someone, and not respecting someone, I believe it is found in ones’s actions. Posters who post here almost daily (some post daily), and obsessively, about all the things they think is wrong with Meghan (even to the point of imagining things she may have done or thought and then assigning malevolence to those imaginings) are prime examples of people who hate Meghan.

Some other examples of hate are the posters who repeatedly, come here citing things (unsubstantiated gossip) they read on twitter about Meghan that they ‘don’t know if it’s true or not’ but throw it in the mix, and other posters then respond as if it is fact. Also, another example, a poster who pasted and copied from a Meghan hating twitter post, changed a few words here and there; and presented it as her own opinion.

I believe most of us are more driven and drawn by the complete hypocrisy we see here than any hatred.

Like you post really nasty 30 year old shit about one woman, and that’s “lack of respect”. But I’m sure you won’t comment on the way Meghan treated her first husband. Or the live-in boyfriend she ditched when she met Harry. Because since it’s about Meghan, that would be “hate”.

Or gasp when someone mentions any rumors about Harry, while happily posting photos and repeating wretched rumors about anyone else in the RF.

It’s that that I think keeps most of us coming back. It’s just so 🤯

Like you post really nasty 30 year old shit about one woman, and that’s “lack of respect”.

what ‘nasty old shit’? I posted what is documented.

I will talk about documented stuff. I don’t deal in rumors. About anyone. Not Meghan, Kate, or anyone.

Anyway, this has become an extremely unpleasant forum. Greatly changed since I first joined it two years ago - now extremely dogmatic. And heavily influenced by made up stuff from sites like twitterx and YouTube. I debated posting again after I was told by BemusedAmerican I was having ‘wet dreams’. Who speaks like that? I think that’s ‘nasty shit.’
Extreme.

Don’t bother answering. I’m finished with this.

None of that is relevant

This was a public event involving people of equal rank from different states - the heads of state and their wives.

Rebuffing the wife of a head of state in front of cameras and the world's press was embarrassing to Mme Macron.

A quick squeeze of the hand and a brief nod of the head wouldn't have killed Camilla.

I’m also old enough to remember Lady Dale Tyrone being gossiped about as the other main mistress.

This is old, this is nasty, this was rumor. There is plenty more.

I guess. But I don’t find it worthy of attention every time someone could have done something a little less awkwardly. It being made the subject of news would be more embarrassing for Mme Macron than the awkward moment.

Get a life.

Stop creating a problem where none exists. Read the thread. Most posters think there isn't an issue.
If you want to pick on Camilla at least find something valid. This is definitely scraping the bottom of the barrel.