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Camilla snubs Brigitte Macron at D-Day Anniversary, rejecting her gesture of warmth

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TallerSally · 06/06/2024 20:10

Well, isn't this a funny one.

Foreign heads of state are under no obligation to respect protocols of foreign royalty, particularly in their own country.

Seems Camilla didn't get the memo:

"Queen Camilla, 76, and Brigitte, 71, had an awkward moment on June 6 during a service marking the 80th anniversary of the D-Day Landings in Normandy, France. As seen in a video shared to X by the Daily Mail, French President Emmanuel Macron's wife tried to hold the royal's hand after they laid wreaths at the British Normandy Memorial at Ver-sur-Mer. However, Queen Camilla didn't reciprocate, keeping her arm at her side. After briefly grasping the royal's hand, Brigitte stepped to the side and folded her arms in front of her.
Proper etiquette around interacting with the British royals has long been a highly discussed subject. The royal family's website, which has yet to be updated in full following the death of Queen Elizabeth in September 2022, states, "There are no obligatory codes of behavior when meeting The Queen or a member of the royal family, but many people wish to observe the traditional forms."

Funnily enough, Charles himself didn't follow royal protocol:

"Proving that there are no hard and fast rules around how to say hello, King Charles, 75, greeted President Macron with a hug at the British Normandy Memorial and kissed his wife's hand."

I guess Camilla's more royal than the royals themselves?

https://people.com/queen-camilla-brigitte-macron-awkward-moment-royal-avoids-holding-hands-d-day-anniversary-event-france-8659266

Queen Camilla and Brigitte Macron Have Awkward Moment at D-Day Event as Royal Avoids Holding First Lady's Hand

Queen Camilla and Brigitte Macron had an awkward moment when the first lady of France reached for the Queen's hand at the British Normandy Memorial.

https://people.com/queen-camilla-brigitte-macron-awkward-moment-royal-avoids-holding-hands-d-day-anniversary-event-france-8659266

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IsoldeWagner · 08/06/2024 14:20

Livingtothefull · 08/06/2024 14:15

Well she did. And plenty of people agree that she did. So let's agree to disagree.

I am certainly going to disagree with statements that have zero basis in fact!
What I have read and seen directly contradicts your claims, which have no basis in fact, no evidence and make no sense whatsoever.
It's not about "disagreement".

IsoldeWagner · 08/06/2024 14:21

If you don't like Camilla, fine. Why make up lies though which are so easily and obviously refuted? That makes no sense to me!

AliceOlive · 08/06/2024 14:21

IsoldeWagner · 08/06/2024 14:14

Oh dear lord. Thank you.
No wonder it's difficult to have a sensible discussion!

Oh my. I never heard of the second one.

How very coincidental.

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 08/06/2024 14:24

IsoldeWagner · 08/06/2024 14:20

I am certainly going to disagree with statements that have zero basis in fact!
What I have read and seen directly contradicts your claims, which have no basis in fact, no evidence and make no sense whatsoever.
It's not about "disagreement".

This is 'say it often enough as if it's fact and sooner or later it becomes fact.' There are a few posters who make definitive statements as if they're true when they are merely a matter of perspective and interpretation.

AliceOlive · 08/06/2024 14:24

Someone remind me again why Camilla is in the sights of the SS? Did she also fail to share lipgloss? I saw a lovely video of Harry and Meghan skedaddling early out of a garden party where Meghan had a very warm interaction from Camilla. I guess whatever Camilla did to her happened after that.

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 08/06/2024 14:25

AliceOlive · 08/06/2024 14:21

Oh my. I never heard of the second one.

How very coincidental.

Have a listen to it. It's hilarious and it had the BBC and Mary Whitehouse in contortions of moral outrage back in I think 1972.

AnnieSF · 08/06/2024 14:25

jeffgoldblum · 08/06/2024 13:58

I think I must have been watching different coverage, I didn't see anything that would be considered a hash up , it all went extremely well and respectful from all involved.

The hash up was the length of time it took Mrs M to lay the flipping wreath down. 🙄

smilesy · 08/06/2024 14:26

AliceOlive · 08/06/2024 14:24

Someone remind me again why Camilla is in the sights of the SS? Did she also fail to share lipgloss? I saw a lovely video of Harry and Meghan skedaddling early out of a garden party where Meghan had a very warm interaction from Camilla. I guess whatever Camilla did to her happened after that.

Because Harry blames her for many of his woes these days (even though he never used to) and paints her as the wicked stepmother

AnnieSF · 08/06/2024 14:26

AliceOlive · 08/06/2024 14:24

Someone remind me again why Camilla is in the sights of the SS? Did she also fail to share lipgloss? I saw a lovely video of Harry and Meghan skedaddling early out of a garden party where Meghan had a very warm interaction from Camilla. I guess whatever Camilla did to her happened after that.

It's just to distract from the Montecito tumbleweed. Nothing going on there worthy of talking about.

IsoldeWagner · 08/06/2024 14:27

I have absolutely no idea, @AliceOlive It's baffling.
But then I just don't get people who would manipulate any situation and lie about people like that - we can check pictures and footage and see for ourselves!
However. There have been pages and pages where people have challenged this silliness and still it continues. Inexplicable.

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 08/06/2024 14:32

IsoldeWagner · 08/06/2024 14:27

I have absolutely no idea, @AliceOlive It's baffling.
But then I just don't get people who would manipulate any situation and lie about people like that - we can check pictures and footage and see for ourselves!
However. There have been pages and pages where people have challenged this silliness and still it continues. Inexplicable.

Because they want it to be true, and they'll keep on and on saying it's true. Look at posters a while back saying what an asset H&M were to the RF, and the posters who quite reasonably pointed out that they didn't stick around long enough to demonstrate that. But no, THE TRUTH IS, according to them, that H&M were an asset. So there's no discussion to be had.

It's a device used by people who can't bear to be contradicted and argued with. Why, I don't know - perhaps deep down they're not actually convinced of the strength of their argument, or they're just bloody minded and dogmatic. I had a DM just like that, and believe me, in the end there's no point arguing. It's like playing pigeon chess.

TheFirmBiscuit · 08/06/2024 14:34

Was this cleared with the touch police or does the rule only go one way ?

Camilla snubs Brigitte Macron at D-Day Anniversary, rejecting her gesture of warmth
IsoldeWagner · 08/06/2024 14:36

You're right, @MrsDanversGlidesAgain .
It's dogma.
Evidence, commonsense, and critical thinking make no difference.

jeffgoldblum · 08/06/2024 14:40

I was giving her the benefit of doubt @AnnieSF ! 🤣
She seemed a tad unsteady on her feet so figured bending down was tricky! 🤣

TheFirmBiscuit · 08/06/2024 14:42

Camilla really missed a trick there. A picture of her holding hand with Mme Macron in front of the memorial would have been iconic. It would have sent so many positive messages to the world and most importantly our European allies. She’s not THE queen she’s husband to the monarch so no protocol has been breeched. If she was THE queen she would have been included in a different part of the ceremony. Complete fail on her part. It’s down there with the faux medals, the costume uniform and our PM leaving before all the events of the day had concluded.

PS: You know want to know who would have accepted Mme Macron’s gesture if she had lived to become Queen Consort? Diana - the eternal Princess of Wales.

LaMarschallin · 08/06/2024 14:42

If anything, Brigitte messed up.
Camilla has lain her wreath and is patiently waiting while Brigitte fiddles around for ages. Once it's eventually laid, Camilla takes a few steps backwards to pay her respects.
Brigitte, otoh, turns her back on the wreath and the monument in favour of walking over to Camilla and scrabbling at her hand.
I imagine Camilla had no idea what she was trying to do.
Once Brigitte turns to face the wreaths again, Camilla can finally get on with paying her respects and bowing her head. Brigitte realises she should also bow her head right at the end of the clip.

jeffgoldblum · 08/06/2024 14:43

TheFirmBiscuit · 08/06/2024 14:34

Was this cleared with the touch police or does the rule only go one way ?

Seems like a nice informal picture, taken after the official wreath laying.

ShiteSalliesForth · 08/06/2024 14:44

Several squeaky new ones on here.

Nice to see Ms Macron trying on Meghan’s grabbing claw on for size though.

Even nicer to see Queen Camilla treat that kind of self serving, attention seeking shite for what it was.

AnnieSF · 08/06/2024 14:44

TheFirmBiscuit · 08/06/2024 14:42

Camilla really missed a trick there. A picture of her holding hand with Mme Macron in front of the memorial would have been iconic. It would have sent so many positive messages to the world and most importantly our European allies. She’s not THE queen she’s husband to the monarch so no protocol has been breeched. If she was THE queen she would have been included in a different part of the ceremony. Complete fail on her part. It’s down there with the faux medals, the costume uniform and our PM leaving before all the events of the day had concluded.

PS: You know want to know who would have accepted Mme Macron’s gesture if she had lived to become Queen Consort? Diana - the eternal Princess of Wales.

What to Know
Breech is a noun referring to the rear of a gun or the rear, or buttocks, of a person. Most people are familiar with "breeches" meaning "pants." Breach on the other hand means "a break or violation" such as a "breach of conduct" or a "breach in a dam."

BlueParrotRedParrot · 08/06/2024 14:45

TheFirmBiscuit · 08/06/2024 14:34

Was this cleared with the touch police or does the rule only go one way ?

Can you get any more pathetic?

Do you understand the difference between touching someone's arm in a social interaction, and someone taking you by surprise by trying to grab your hand during a solemn ceremony in front of a war memorial? Macron made a complete fool of herself. Accept it.

smilesy · 08/06/2024 14:45

TheFirmBiscuit · 08/06/2024 14:34

Was this cleared with the touch police or does the rule only go one way ?

No one said there should be no touching. Only that grabbing a hand after just laying a commemorative wreath (and making a hash of it on Mme Macron’s part) in a solemn moment, was not appropriate

IsoldeWagner · 08/06/2024 14:45

You have absolutely no idea what Diana would have done, @TheFirmBiscuit .
You can't compare her to Camilla. She's gone. That's in the past.
Camilla behaved perfectly. As I understand it, Brigitte was lacking in punctuality which I find a bit rude.
Criticise her behaviour, maybe?

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 08/06/2024 14:46

PS: You know want to know who would have accepted Mme Macron’s gesture if she had lived to become Queen Consort? Diana - the eternal Princess of Wales

Lord above. Now we're getting confidently definitive statements about what a woman dead 27 years would have done if she hadn't been a) divorced and not part of this shindig anyway and b) dead.

I'm beginning to think the chemtrail theorists ("they're trying to send us all MAD!!!) might have a point.

smilesy · 08/06/2024 14:47

AnnieSF · 08/06/2024 14:44

What to Know
Breech is a noun referring to the rear of a gun or the rear, or buttocks, of a person. Most people are familiar with "breeches" meaning "pants." Breach on the other hand means "a break or violation" such as a "breach of conduct" or a "breach in a dam."

Someone is definitely talking out of their breeches 😆

IsoldeWagner · 08/06/2024 14:47

TheFirmBiscuit · 08/06/2024 14:34

Was this cleared with the touch police or does the rule only go one way ?

What a lovely picture, thank you!
Camilla spent so much time chatting to the veterans. Also other royals. I found it all touching and heartwarming.
They represented the UK well. With kindness and decorum.
Also - they never made it about themselves.

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