Camilla snubs Brigitte Macron at D-Day Anniversary, rejecting her gesture of warmth

[TallerSally]

Well, isn't this a funny one.

Foreign heads of state are under no obligation to respect protocols of foreign royalty, particularly in their own country.

Seems Camilla didn't get the memo:

"Queen Camilla, 76, and Brigitte, 71, had an awkward moment on June 6 during a service marking the 80th anniversary of the D-Day Landings in Normandy, France. As seen in a video shared to X by the Daily Mail, French President Emmanuel Macron's wife tried to hold the royal's hand after they laid wreaths at the British Normandy Memorial at Ver-sur-Mer. However, Queen Camilla didn't reciprocate, keeping her arm at her side. After briefly grasping the royal's hand, Brigitte stepped to the side and folded her arms in front of her.
Proper etiquette around interacting with the British royals has long been a highly discussed subject. The royal family's website, which has yet to be updated in full following the death of Queen Elizabeth in September 2022, states, "There are no obligatory codes of behavior when meeting The Queen or a member of the royal family, but many people wish to observe the traditional forms."

Funnily enough, Charles himself didn't follow royal protocol:

"Proving that there are no hard and fast rules around how to say hello, King Charles, 75, greeted President Macron with a hug at the British Normandy Memorial and kissed his wife's hand."

I guess Camilla's more royal than the royals themselves?

https://people.com/queen-camilla-brigitte-macron-awkward-moment-royal-avoids-holding-hands-d-day-anniversary-event-france-8659266

I have no idea what you mean. Could you clarify?
This is a thread with some unfair and unsubstantiated criticisms of Camilla. They have all effectively been countered.
Very reasonably, clearly and effectively.
I have no idea what the shiny new toys are.

I feel it doesn't mean anything.
It's just a load of random words strung together, imo.
"Squeaky shiny toys" looks like it's supposed to be a quote from somewhere, but goodness knows where.
I'm not sure who "the drinks all round" are for, but I think I'll be buying my own, despite other offers.

True, @LaMarschallin 😉
Who knows.

And what’s the paranoia?
What are the delusions?

Anyone else thinks it’s all just this?

Indeed. That post comes across as if the “drinks all round” may have been consumed 😆

Also, surely "anti Sussex saboteurs" must mean people sabotaging anyone anti Sussex?
However, I think your gif sums it up, @AliceOlive 😂

There's a certain posting style of a certain poster(s); whose only counter to logical arguments made in response to their bizarre, ill though out threads, is to make out that they are hysterically amused by all the well thought out and informed responses. And to tell us all they are hysterically amused (sometimes with a few emojis laughing dropped in in case you're not convinced), together with some cryptic word salad that is meant to make us think they are enigmatic and intellectually superior, their thought process on a higher plain of understanding that the rest of us can't possibly comprehend. The reality being that they didn't really think it through, and now look a bit dim. It would be a hard poster not to get second hand embarrassment for them.

That must make me as hard as then 😂

I agree with this. As representatives of their country they are truly embarrassing much of the time.

I don't agree with those who argue that it is just like one of us refusing to hold someone's hand at a work event; this is the anniversary of the D-Day landings and the RF were there to represent their country in remembering the event and honouring the veterans. Their one job - for which they are so handsomely rewarded - is to manage events like this with soft diplomacy and grace.

And Camilla made a hash of it. The fact that some RF- and Camilla fans on here won't admit this is truly revealing. I personally think the fact she didn't even stand there for a respectful minute was even worse than the hand holding thing.

I think I must have been watching different coverage, I didn't see anything that would be considered a hash up , it all went extremely well and respectful from all involved.

RF were there to represent their country in remembering the event and honouring the veterans. Their one job - for which they are so handsomely rewarded - is to manage events like this with soft diplomacy and grace

And that is what they did. And that is what it's about - not Madame Macron's hurty feelz. No comment about her keeping everyone waiting, I see.

And for the RF it was a work event. So no holding hands, merci.

Camilla didn't "make a hash of it", however desperate some people are for that to be true. It isn't.
Throughout the commemorations she remained dignified, considerate and thoughtful.
It was all about the veterans and the event and she knew that.
She ensured that it was never about her.

AnnieSF · Today 12:43
BemusedAmerican · Today 10:26

@CoffeeCantata I'm beginning to think they all read trashy historical romances, too. The accusations about the RF sound like they came from bad regency ones.
It's funny that you should say that as the SS woman who posted the photo of Camilla and Rose writes books - atrociously according to the reviews on Amazon. This is a summary of one of her two. She has a link on her twitter to this so I'm not revealing anything private.

Wow - is that her own summary? If so, it's a terrible piece of writing from a professional! Inconsistent capitalisation, rambling 'sentences' and very hard to follow.

But I come back to my constant beef/question: what sort of people can the SS be to be openly putting this nasty stuff out there? It doesn't surprise me that people can be spiteful and cruel, but most adults try to hide it due to social pressure. The SS seem absolutely shameless! How do they sleep at night?

(I mean, there are rumours about H & M's marriage but I wouldn't repeat them on the internet because much as that pair make me cringe, they are parents of young children and I hope for their sake that their marriage endures.)

So many attempts to see negatives where none exist.

Wow - is that her own summary? If so, it's a terrible piece of writing from a professional! Inconsistent capitalisation, rambling 'sentences' and very hard to follow.

Sounds familiar!

I am not talking about Mme Macron, she doesn't represent the UK so what UK people may think of her is ultimately neither here nor there.

I am not talking about Camilla's management of the whole event, just this one specific incident, when the spotlight was on her. And she messed up. Sorry but she did - the wide reporting of this as an awkward and embarrassing incident is proof.

It is not about Camilla's feelings either or her personal unwillingness to hold hands. Yes it was a RF work event and their work entails representing her country, and showing warmth towards others when warmth is called for. And she looked cold, snobbish and standoffish.

Not saying it was all her fault, but her role includes the need to smooth over and avoid such things happening, and she didn't.

I wouldn't bother asking, you're up against people who call themselves after a children's programme from decades ago and a novelty song. Should give you an idea of the mental calibre you're dealing with

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Ding-a-Ling

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiswas

She didn't "mess up". That's just not true.

Oh dear lord. Thank you.
No wonder it's difficult to have a sensible discussion!

Well she did. And plenty of people agree that she did. So let's agree to disagree.

Because there wasn't anything to 'mess up.' However, you're never going to convince the people who are determined that she was in the wrong and a major diplomatic rift was narrowly averted. And who spend paragraphs and paragraphs minutely detailing where HM failed and how she looked and how bad it was. Over and over.

Camilla was the very opposite of "cold, snobbish and standoffish" (sic).
She spent a lot of time talking to veterans and hearing their stories. That involves a level of empathy, kindness and patience that is the very opposite of those wild claims.

Plenty of people, or just those who think Harry and Meghan should be King and Queen?

The French were the host country. Hosting representatives of the countries that liberated theirs. If you want to go down that route, the French should have been bending over backwards to ensure that the etiquette of the visiting Allied dignitaries was observed and that they were made comfortable in all ceremonies, and not forced to smooth over the behaviour of the host head of state's wife. Including her failure to turn up on time more than once.

I've had My Ding a Ling as an earworm for DAYS, so NO thanks to that poster. 😂