Do you think Prince Andrew should be made to leave Royal Lodge?

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Another (trashy) article in the press today saying Andrew needs to downsize out of Royal Lodge and make way for Wills & co.

Apparently he doesn't have the fund for its upkeep, it's falling in to disrepair.

W & C obviously could make better use of it.

He's been there 30 years so I can understand he doesn't want to move out of essentially his family home. My own view is he should be in deepest darkest nowhere, but wondered what others thought.

Is there any reason at all to leave him be?

Well, Prince Andrew should leave, full stop, go off and live somewhere private - there is plenty of property on the royal estates - and stay out of public view. Arrogant git regularly gets himself photographed out riding. If he's attending family stuff that will be filmed or photographed, he should discretely remain as hidden as possible, instead of leading at the front as he is wont to do. And he can take his wife/ex wife with him.
I cannot see that there is anything he can do to redeem his reputation. John Profumo managed it, true, but then his sleazy story did not involve underage girls and a proven paedophile friend.

I wondered if he ( and the other royals) have any sort of legal tenancy agreement which is making it difficult.

Yes that was the agreement he stayed there paying peppercorn rent and paid for the upkeep his mom backed down from forcing him out I hope his brother doesn't

I don’t really care what they do with him as long as he stays in the bubble of protection. I certainly do not want extra charges for his security, which will be given no matter how much of a shit he is, if it is believed a credible threat.

Yes he has a lifetime tenancy agreement, the queen agreed it with him.

He has a 75 year lease so yes, he has legal rights.

The problem is neither he nor the King can (or want) to pay for the repair and maintenance costs. If Prince William moved in those costs would be paid for by the State instead. Based on that information I want him to stay put 😂

William could pay for it from his income from the Duchy of Cornwall surely.

Good point about his security risk and costs.

Does William want to move? He and Catherine may prefer a smaller house.

How many houses does Wills need?

My understand is yes William will pay for maintenance himself. Andrew doesn’t have the money, this is the issue,he’s refusing to leave but he isn’t maintaining it either, so it’s becoming a right mess.

Yes, I do. There is no reason why he and his ex-wife, neither of whom do anything for the RF or the country, should be living basically rent-free in a 30-room mansion. The sooner the pair of scroungers get out and live somewhere more appropriate, the better.

My understanding is yes William will pay for maintenance himself

Doesn't that mean we the taxpayers are paying for it, as all the money he has is from us ?

Why do people think on the one hand the Royals should be Royals and on the other hand the rules that apply to non Royals should apply to them?

The Royal system literally sets Royals apart. The Royal system puts the Royals at the top of the social hierarchy, so better than non Royals and therefore any non Royal opinions are irrelevant.

Who cares what anyone thinks about Prince Andrew except the king and no one on MN who has an opinion has any way of influencing the king’s opinion.

My understanding is that he is the legal tenant, as long as he can pay for the upkeep. I find him arrogant and entitled but I don't see how he can be evicted unless he can't fulfill the terms of the agreement.

It does seem to make more sense for someone who can afford the upkeep to move in but I haven't seen any evidence that William wants it and apart from him I can't think of any other royal who could afford it.

Incorrect.

I don’t think William would move to Royal Lodge. When they decide to move from where they are now, they would probably move in to the Castle itself. I think this was always the long term intention

Lots of misunderstandings on this thread.

Andrew has a 75yr lease from the Crown Estate and according to today's Times, a rent of £260k p.a. So legally he can't be forced out unless the Estate can find a loophole if he doesn't maintain the property. It is not a Grace and Favour Residence.

If William were to move in, the costs would be covered from his private income as Duke of Cornwall. All the money he has is not from us. The sovereign Grant funds the royals public life and official properties. Even the Crown Estate is I believe technically the possession of the Crown, but for centuries has been administered by the state in return for the civil list/sovereign grant. There is a surplus of income from the estate.

So do I think Andrew should do the decent thing and move out? Absolutely. Do I think there's a cat in hell's he will do so willingly? No. Even before the whole Epstein scandal he had a reputation for being the least pleasant of the royals; arrogant, rude and extremely status conscious. Never quite got over being the second son. Now why does that sound familiar??

I don't know why William and Catherine are being dragged into this they have just been given new residence they are not set to take over royal Lodge?

He has broken the agreement he needs to go the agreement was rent plus maintenance he isnt maintaining it

Surely Andrew would have inherited a bob or two from both his father and his mother?

Aside from his sleazy history and taxpayers money, etc. if you look at it from a purely family dynamics pov anyone would be steaming if you’d agreed something with your now dead mother and now your older brother tries to get you out.

but yes I think he should leave it. 😁. He doesn’t need a house that big. I think the RF should look at selling property off.

It does seem a large property with 30 rooms for 2 people. W & C could make better use of it with their DC.

Why doesn’t Charles just pay for the maintenance it needs? I’m sure he can afford it.

I don’t really care where any of them live, tbh.

It's effectively not theirs to sell. They could sell Balmoral which is privately owned but not Royal Lodge which is administered by the Crown Estate.

If he has a legally binding lease, then he is entitled to stay where he is.

The first thing we need to do is make the royals stick to the same laws as the rest of us, but we can't do that if we then say 'oh but you're not entitled to the basic protection of contract law.'
Eventually PA won't be able to afford the heating bill, common sense will prevail and he'll leave of his own free will. Turn it into a huge battle and he'll stick it out regardless.

What difference would it make to us where he lives?