Porkies, Perfidies & Pomposity - Harry and Meghan thread 2

[YaMuvva]

I do not take credit for the title

First thread here

Shall we continue the discussion? I will not be engaging with the posters spouting damaging and unfounded gossip

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/the_royal_family/5084429-why-do-harry-and-meghan-tell-porkies-that-are-so-easy-to-prove-wrong?page=1

I think that is what most people would have thought, but I don’t think it enters Meghan’s head to feel “out of her element”. She always thinks she knows best and knows what to do in any situation and would never feel nervous because it doesn’t occur to her that what she says or does is in any way inappropriate. She clearly thought that she could change the Royal Family so that she became the most important part of it, so I don’t think for a minute she would be in awe of the actual Queen

@smilesy yes, what you are saying seems more likely than my rose colored glasses view.

I think she was trying on and flitting between different personas in the early days. There was the over confident 'I know everything about women's empowerment ' when the Fab Four did the panel and the lovestruck teenager who had to hold Harry's arm with two hands at public engagements. Very inauthentic which many of us picked up on.

I think she still does this. Flitting between iterations to fit the situation. But not very successfully

typo

One thing I can think of where Harry has been a hypocrite and perhaps a bit ageist or at least prejudice - he did a recent interview where he revealed him and William asked Charles not to marry Camilla because “we didn’t think it was necessary and if he’d found his person surely that was enough”.

Yet it’s funny how when the rules are bent for Harry to marry a divorcee him finding his person wasn’t enough, and he also thought it was necessary. He thought a King should only ever have a girlfriend with no official role by his side but Harry could break the same rules to have a wife.

Did he see it as two young people have the right to marry and the old fogies should just be happy with their lot?

ItsNotAShopItsAStore

One thing I can think of where Harry has been a hypocrite and perhaps a bit ageist or at least prejudice - he did a recent interview where he revealed him and William asked Charles not to marry Camilla because “we didn’t think it was necessary and if he’d found his person surely that was enough”.

Perhaps he thought Charles and Camilla should have just exchanged personal vows in the backyard in the presence of the Archbishop of Canterbury.
Just the same as a real, legal marriage and so much more meaningful.

My favourite part was

How was she to know that Elizabeth II, by the Grace of God, of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and of her other realms and territories Queen, Head of the Commonwealth, Defender of the Faith was in any way different from the Lady of Gaga?

😂😂😂

What I found interesting about this claim was that in the Oprah interview she described her as “Fergie”. I’m pretty sure that’s not what she’s known as in family circles, only in the press. The same with “The Firm”. She was using tabloid nicknames because that’s who her audience is

🤣🤣🤣🤣

It's Lillibets birthday today and they apparently held a party for her last weekend. Funny how they couldn't hold her first birthday party on a different day to avoid dragging family from the Platinum Jubilee celebrations.

Not only that but he got extremely offended when told to slow things down to get to know Meghan and not rush into it.

Did Charles get equally offended and do a gargantuan strop or just accept their view?

We will never know of course; but it doesn’t appear on the face of it that Charles did. We know, however, that Harry has been having a strop ever since!

Additionally he’s a hypocrite being unhappy with his position as “Spare” but only too happy to be above his cousins in privilege due to their parents being spares

Some animals are more equal than others

Also Meghan is a breathtaking hypocrite with “finding her family in Nigeria” when the Raglands who she didn’t even invite to her wedding live in the same country ! Perhaps she should go and find them first

Sean Lennon has had death threats from the Sussex Squad.

https://x.com/seanonolennon/status/1797769597485203604

@MummyJ12 , maybe it's time for the police to get involved.

They really are Sewer Scum aren’t they?

I agree @CremeFresh. I hope he reports them and something is done.

That’s a perfect term for them @DaffydownClock.

My god, it is just unreal. Considering what happened to his father, this must be really worrying and triggering for him.

It is beyond belief that H&M have never addressed it, other than employing and thanking the Sussex Squad.

My god, it is just unreal. Considering what happened to his father, this must be really worrying and triggering for him.

@Thedom that’s a really good point.

You're not wrong about the triggering, Thedom, though frankly I'd be more surprised if some of the "Squad" hadn't gone down this route

Fortunately though - at least from the quotes I've seen on here - it seems most of them would struggle to find their way out of a paper bag, so any actual action against the guy would probably prove too much of a challenge

I think the FBI may actually get involved in death threats against a Lennon. Also, Sean lives with Yoko. It will be horrifying for her. This isn’t just your run of the mill police matter.

I think team Sussex may have just totally screwed up.

No surprise there.

I read someone on here someone saying that the Nigeria trip would have been planned months in advance rather than it being a badly planned, rash impromptu visit.

And they planned it so they would be away. For Mothers Day. Nice.

But when all you hear is how family is so important? From wedding invites to meticulously planned trips they don’t appear to think so.

And if it was all about M visiting her and the heritage of the children (Because let’s face it - it seemed bugger all to do with Invictus but an M showreel), then why not let the children experience their heritage? Or her mum and her family?

Or would that have diluted her shine?

As for the Sean Lennon death threats?

Despicable.

And I hope they feel the full weight of any investigation that may transpire.

I can understand supporters trying to create an atmosphere when criticism results in automatic hounding to ensure that people think twice about saying anything negative but it does become a dangerous line to tread and does backfire. The Nigerian First Lady showed that, for many the first response was to attack, but now she said it was a misunderstanding and the delete facility being used but it’s too late, many people saw the attack. The same with the Catherine stuff seems to now have the opposite impact and is losing support and strangely stopping Harry and Meghan moving forward.