Pocketfullofdogtreats · Yesterday 10:31
I don't know how they can square hunting and other cruelties with their environmental stuff.
I think there is a misunderstanding of what 'environmental stuff' is. It's absolutely NOT about the suffering etc of individual animals - it's about not wiping out species or habitats and knocking the natural order off balance. Humans have always hunted and before our nasty, destructive species had dominated the globe in such a terrifying way things were kept in balance naturally.
So therefore, looking at the 'environmental' angle, it's not OK to kill tigers - they are an endangered species. But it would be OK to hunt foxes, because there are plenty of them. Please don't misunderstand me - I don't eat meat and deplore animal cruelty, but just in terms of the environment, hunting plentiful animals is an irrelevance.
But I just despair of all the meat-eaters who mind hunting and shooting. Fox-hunting is technically illegal now (that's the theory, anyway...) but numbers of foxes caught are minuscule in the big picture, and pose no threat to foxes as a species. Shooting is horrible for veggies to contemplate, but why would meat-eaters mind? Is it because the killing takes place in plain sight, and you can hear the guns, reminding you of how meat gets on to our plates? I'm sorry - but I suspect it is! I couldn't kill a creature and therefore don't eat meat. What do you think happens to the pheasants etc who've been shot? They are sold for meat at specialist butchers - not wasted.
Honestly - if you mind animal suffering, please focus on the millions upon millions of farm animals slaughtered each year - possibly after horrible lives. And best not to look too closely at what happens overseas where animal welfare is not a priority.
( PS It was ironic that, on MN that at the beginning of the CoL crisis people were always saying they preferred Lurpak. Animal welfare standards are much higher in the UK than in Denmark, so how about buying British butter at least?