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Harry's treatment of animals

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Alarmingghhh · 16/04/2024 04:43

Just saw the photo of Harry's bleeding polo pony on a different thread.

Why hasn't he been prosecuted for this animal abuse?

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EdithWeston · 16/04/2024 12:07

thisiswheretheseagullfliesaway · 16/04/2024 11:45

@EdithWeston it was real although apparently the alpacas died naturally 🙄 There is definitely pictures of her enjoying shoots.

Fair enough about the hunting thing. We've still hunting here in NI and I've seen many small pets killed by the hounds in their own gardens. I detest blood sports of all kinds.

My point still remains the royals haven't a great record in regards to cruelty to animals. Why on earth single Harry out?

Why on earth not?

You don't get a free pass because of what others do. And the announcement of the polo documentary has of course put his treatment of polo ponies squarely in to the public domain, and his record on that is bad (worse than other players who are not associated with a death or with bleeding ponies)

What-aboutery or other deflection doesn't cut it. He chose to announce the polo documentary, this putting his actions towards horses up for comment.

LivingInChesapeakeShores · 16/04/2024 12:12

EdithWeston · 16/04/2024 12:07

Why on earth not?

You don't get a free pass because of what others do. And the announcement of the polo documentary has of course put his treatment of polo ponies squarely in to the public domain, and his record on that is bad (worse than other players who are not associated with a death or with bleeding ponies)

What-aboutery or other deflection doesn't cut it. He chose to announce the polo documentary, this putting his actions towards horses up for comment.

Because they’re all as bad as each other, making it strange to single out just one. I’m happy people are talking about Harry’s lack of care for animals but also very pleased that people are talking about other RF members lack of care too. It’s all disgusting.

RichardsGear · 16/04/2024 12:18

orchiddottyback · 16/04/2024 12:07

Interesting to watch, see what he actually said and thought.

Rude, dismissive and a ridiculous excuse that it was acceptable because it was only once and the tiger was lame anyway? An overindulged arsehole batting away questions in his usual arrogant fashion, that's what I see.

LivingInChesapeakeShores · 16/04/2024 12:26

RichardsGear · 16/04/2024 12:18

Rude, dismissive and a ridiculous excuse that it was acceptable because it was only once and the tiger was lame anyway? An overindulged arsehole batting away questions in his usual arrogant fashion, that's what I see.

He didn’t like being challenged about it. Idiot. He’s dead now and good riddance, just a shame there are plenty more like him who take part in these things and think they’re above being held to account.

EdithWeston · 16/04/2024 12:34

LivingInChesapeakeShores · 16/04/2024 12:12

Because they’re all as bad as each other, making it strange to single out just one. I’m happy people are talking about Harry’s lack of care for animals but also very pleased that people are talking about other RF members lack of care too. It’s all disgusting.

He singled himself out by making the polo announcement.

Yes of course it's perfectly fair to add criticisms of others. But not so to suggest that criticism of Harry arises from unfairness when it is his actions of his own choosing that led to it. And especially when the criticisms are valid and arise from publicly witnessed and contemporaneously recorded actions that were also of his choosing.

LivingInChesapeakeShores · 16/04/2024 12:41

EdithWeston · 16/04/2024 12:34

He singled himself out by making the polo announcement.

Yes of course it's perfectly fair to add criticisms of others. But not so to suggest that criticism of Harry arises from unfairness when it is his actions of his own choosing that led to it. And especially when the criticisms are valid and arise from publicly witnessed and contemporaneously recorded actions that were also of his choosing.

The criticism is because there are so many Harry haters here. He’s received more hate posts than Andrew which shows how fucked up this board is.

Kate has worn fur therefore singling herself out.
William has played polo, a cruel sport do singling himself out.
Edward threatened and probably hit his dogs with a big stick singling himself out.
Annes dogs were untrained and not children and killed another dog singling herself out.
They all hunt at different times, singling themselves out.
Etc, etc.

All cunts! They should all get their own thread to talk about their bad treatment of animals.

LivingInChesapeakeShores · 16/04/2024 12:41

*attacked children

ginasevern · 16/04/2024 12:42

SoftLanding · 16/04/2024 11:21

Lots of the Royals including William, Charles, Kate, Edward, Anne, the late Queen and Philip have proved themselves to be a disgrace when it comes to animal welfare, not just Harry. Nasty, hypocritical bastards.

All of the above, plus the Queen lobbied parliament for immunity against animal welfare laws (and naturally won). Actually she ensured that the Firm are immune from 160 British laws, including workers' rights and race/sex discrimination.

But I expect it's all Harry's fault.

TotalAbsenceOfImperialRaiment · 16/04/2024 12:49

The WWF supports the use of possum fur. Possums are a major pest in New Zealand.

CurlewKate · 16/04/2024 12:50

@Spirallingdownwards "Well that's down to bad luck then isn't it but luckily for you feeds the Harry bashing."

I have no idea what you mean! I am a polo "basher". And a royal family basher. What I'm pointing out is that ponies are frequently hurt and generally have short active lives. Just because one was caught on camera dying of a heart attack, doesn't mean that it was a unique event.

DrJoanAllenby · 16/04/2024 12:59

I would I imagine Harry is singled out for the title of thread because he's recently been more in the public eye and he and Meghan are promoting themselves as saintly beings.

The other members of the royal family don't seem to give a damn about what others think of their hunting activities etc.

CoffeeCantata · 16/04/2024 16:07

BigPimpinSpendinCheese · Today 11:20
Agree. I wish more cared about the suffering in the meat industry too. But their suffering continues in the dark behind gates,cages and barns.

This is my point of view too.

I hate the thought of any animal suffering, but it's just phenomenal how people choose the 'soft targets' - shooting, for example. How do they think that chicken gets on to your plate? It's really not pretty, but we are conditioned quite deliberately not to give it much thought.

I'm a non-meat eater, but please give me a portion of pheasant any day to a commercially-produced chicken. I won't tell you the full horror - I've never been that sort of vegetarian - but please think about it. Mechanised slaughter is involved and that means animals are sometimes butchered alive.

Reminds me of the Simpsons episode where Homer says to Lisa (who wants to become a vegetarian) 'It's lamb...not A lamb!"

Crazeland · 16/04/2024 17:23

Teddleshon · 16/04/2024 10:51

I have a 34 year old ex polo pony. I’ve cared for her for 19 years now and every day I groom and stroke her. Even now, every time I first lift my hand anyhwere near her head she flinches as though she’s about to be hit. She came from Argentina and grooms there do tend to have a bad reputation.

Horses have such long memories

LumiB · 16/04/2024 20:14

Pocketfullofdogtreats · 16/04/2024 10:31

I don't know how they can square hunting and other cruelties with their environmental stuff. When the Duke of Edinburgh died there was a lot written about what an amazing environmentalist he was, and yet he'd shot a tiger in India and posed for the inevitable photo with its body. So trophy hunting is OK? Seriously, why do people have to shoot these animals when they could track them or photograph them alive? No wonder his grandsons have double standards.

100% agree it's not just Harry who is a hypocrite those who participate in those other activities like hunting are all hypocrites too.

CathyorClaire · 16/04/2024 21:24

I hate the thought of any animal suffering, but it's just phenomenal how people choose the 'soft targets' - shooting, for example

It's entirely possible to abhor both factory farming and shooting or abusing animals for fun.

WhateverUThink · 16/04/2024 22:43

Why can't we ever criticize just Harry? This post is about how Harry treats his polo ponies since he is filming a documentary about polo and bringing attention to himself. He has been associated with many animal abuse scandals, so why can't we talk about what HE is doing? Go ahead and make another post about how the rest of them treat animals, but this is about Harry and that should be ok too. I am so tired of this poor Harry mentality. He is not a victim. He is a very wealthy, very entitled man and we should be alowed to criticize him and his abhorent actions.

WhateverUThink · 16/04/2024 23:06

LivingInChesapeakeShores · 16/04/2024 12:41

The criticism is because there are so many Harry haters here. He’s received more hate posts than Andrew which shows how fucked up this board is.

Kate has worn fur therefore singling herself out.
William has played polo, a cruel sport do singling himself out.
Edward threatened and probably hit his dogs with a big stick singling himself out.
Annes dogs were untrained and not children and killed another dog singling herself out.
They all hunt at different times, singling themselves out.
Etc, etc.

All cunts! They should all get their own thread to talk about their bad treatment of animals.

Harry plays polo. Harry's dog was mysteriosly seriously injured. Harry went throphy hunting in Africa. Harry hunts (even endangered species). Harrys environmental org is abusing indigenous people in Africa.

Harry haters? So talking about how Harry has been associated with several dead or injured polo ponies is being a Harry hater? Is anybody forcing Harry to make a doc about polo for Netflix? We are never to question Harry's actions, lest we be labeled haters and racists. How did Harry's dog break two front legs? Can I ask about that? Or would that make me a Harry hater too? You act as if the rest of the family don't get criticised. Do you also go in threads where William + Kate get criticism and bring up how Harry is also awful?

BridgertonFan · 16/04/2024 23:29

WhateverUThink · 16/04/2024 23:06

Harry plays polo. Harry's dog was mysteriosly seriously injured. Harry went throphy hunting in Africa. Harry hunts (even endangered species). Harrys environmental org is abusing indigenous people in Africa.

Harry haters? So talking about how Harry has been associated with several dead or injured polo ponies is being a Harry hater? Is anybody forcing Harry to make a doc about polo for Netflix? We are never to question Harry's actions, lest we be labeled haters and racists. How did Harry's dog break two front legs? Can I ask about that? Or would that make me a Harry hater too? You act as if the rest of the family don't get criticised. Do you also go in threads where William + Kate get criticism and bring up how Harry is also awful?

On a thread on the Royal Family board about one member of the family and their abuse of animals, it’s relevant to discuss other family members abuse of animals as well. The whole family have a history of bad treatment of animals. Threads rarely stick to the subject of the thread title completely.

Who appointed you thread police anyway?

I think Harry causing harm to animals is disgusting, his family are just as repulsive too for doing it. It’s what they do and I can’t stand any of them.

WhateverUThink · 17/04/2024 00:02

BridgertonFan · 16/04/2024 23:29

On a thread on the Royal Family board about one member of the family and their abuse of animals, it’s relevant to discuss other family members abuse of animals as well. The whole family have a history of bad treatment of animals. Threads rarely stick to the subject of the thread title completely.

Who appointed you thread police anyway?

I think Harry causing harm to animals is disgusting, his family are just as repulsive too for doing it. It’s what they do and I can’t stand any of them.

I would generally agree with this take completely but it seems that every time Harry receives any criticism for his own actions the criticism is always attributed to "haters". It's perfectly fine to point out how they are all awful, but not in an effort to excuse Harry's behavior. He is doing a doc about Polo and he should be criticised for HIS treatment of polo ponies, independent of how the rest of the family treats animals. There are quite a few people here complaining that the topic was only brought up because people love to hate on Harry and not because people have been re-exposed to his polo scandals because of the doc he's filming.

I don't claim to be thread police, I am just expressing my opinion like everybody else here. I am just tired of Harry getting away with everything because "they all do it".

BridgertonFan · 17/04/2024 00:19

WhateverUThink · 17/04/2024 00:02

I would generally agree with this take completely but it seems that every time Harry receives any criticism for his own actions the criticism is always attributed to "haters". It's perfectly fine to point out how they are all awful, but not in an effort to excuse Harry's behavior. He is doing a doc about Polo and he should be criticised for HIS treatment of polo ponies, independent of how the rest of the family treats animals. There are quite a few people here complaining that the topic was only brought up because people love to hate on Harry and not because people have been re-exposed to his polo scandals because of the doc he's filming.

I don't claim to be thread police, I am just expressing my opinion like everybody else here. I am just tired of Harry getting away with everything because "they all do it".

I think most people strongly dislike trophy hunting and people wearing fur. Then a lot of people now understand that sports involving animals are cruel and result in bad treatment of animals. I don’t think most people are excusing Harry’s behaviour at all, rather they seem to be saying that in a family full of animal abusers, they should all be talked about/shamed and this seems a relevant thread to do it on.

I don’t usually comment on Royal threads as I’m not interested, but I am hugely interested in animal welfare so I’m glad that posters have taken the opportunity to discuss all this family’s bad treatment of animals.

CoffeeCantata · 17/04/2024 07:04

Pocketfullofdogtreats · Yesterday 10:31

I don't know how they can square hunting and other cruelties with their environmental stuff.

I think there is a misunderstanding of what 'environmental stuff' is. It's absolutely NOT about the suffering etc of individual animals - it's about not wiping out species or habitats and knocking the natural order off balance. Humans have always hunted and before our nasty, destructive species had dominated the globe in such a terrifying way things were kept in balance naturally.

So therefore, looking at the 'environmental' angle, it's not OK to kill tigers - they are an endangered species. But it would be OK to hunt foxes, because there are plenty of them. Please don't misunderstand me - I don't eat meat and deplore animal cruelty, but just in terms of the environment, hunting plentiful animals is an irrelevance.

But I just despair of all the meat-eaters who mind hunting and shooting. Fox-hunting is technically illegal now (that's the theory, anyway...) but numbers of foxes caught are minuscule in the big picture, and pose no threat to foxes as a species. Shooting is horrible for veggies to contemplate, but why would meat-eaters mind? Is it because the killing takes place in plain sight, and you can hear the guns, reminding you of how meat gets on to our plates? I'm sorry - but I suspect it is! I couldn't kill a creature and therefore don't eat meat. What do you think happens to the pheasants etc who've been shot? They are sold for meat at specialist butchers - not wasted.

Honestly - if you mind animal suffering, please focus on the millions upon millions of farm animals slaughtered each year - possibly after horrible lives. And best not to look too closely at what happens overseas where animal welfare is not a priority.

( PS It was ironic that, on MN that at the beginning of the CoL crisis people were always saying they preferred Lurpak. Animal welfare standards are much higher in the UK than in Denmark, so how about buying British butter at least?

AccountCreateUsername · 17/04/2024 07:23

CoffeeCantata · 17/04/2024 07:04

Pocketfullofdogtreats · Yesterday 10:31

I don't know how they can square hunting and other cruelties with their environmental stuff.

I think there is a misunderstanding of what 'environmental stuff' is. It's absolutely NOT about the suffering etc of individual animals - it's about not wiping out species or habitats and knocking the natural order off balance. Humans have always hunted and before our nasty, destructive species had dominated the globe in such a terrifying way things were kept in balance naturally.

So therefore, looking at the 'environmental' angle, it's not OK to kill tigers - they are an endangered species. But it would be OK to hunt foxes, because there are plenty of them. Please don't misunderstand me - I don't eat meat and deplore animal cruelty, but just in terms of the environment, hunting plentiful animals is an irrelevance.

But I just despair of all the meat-eaters who mind hunting and shooting. Fox-hunting is technically illegal now (that's the theory, anyway...) but numbers of foxes caught are minuscule in the big picture, and pose no threat to foxes as a species. Shooting is horrible for veggies to contemplate, but why would meat-eaters mind? Is it because the killing takes place in plain sight, and you can hear the guns, reminding you of how meat gets on to our plates? I'm sorry - but I suspect it is! I couldn't kill a creature and therefore don't eat meat. What do you think happens to the pheasants etc who've been shot? They are sold for meat at specialist butchers - not wasted.

Honestly - if you mind animal suffering, please focus on the millions upon millions of farm animals slaughtered each year - possibly after horrible lives. And best not to look too closely at what happens overseas where animal welfare is not a priority.

( PS It was ironic that, on MN that at the beginning of the CoL crisis people were always saying they preferred Lurpak. Animal welfare standards are much higher in the UK than in Denmark, so how about buying British butter at least?

This is a great post, thank you. I assumed this was a Prince Harry bashing thread rather than motivated by concern for animals. Apologies if I’m wrong OP

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