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The royal family

Harry's treatment of animals

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Alarmingghhh · 16/04/2024 04:43

Just saw the photo of Harry's bleeding polo pony on a different thread.

Why hasn't he been prosecuted for this animal abuse?

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CathyorClaire · 16/04/2024 11:07

They don't need to be, but as land and farm owners, why shouldn't they be.

Do you think they should pay the same in business tax as the locals?

Queen gets tax bill on shooting sports at Balmoral estate slashed to lower than village pub | The National

LivingInChesapeakeShores · 16/04/2024 11:07

Tempnamechng · 16/04/2024 11:06

I do have a barn full of pheasant chicks that we are rearing for a local shoot, so yes, I know they aren't indigenous. They make good eating though and the shoot we help has a contract with a game butcher to take what is left from "the bag" once the guns and beaters have taken what they want. If you don't agree with eating meat then I respect that, but as the only vegetarian in my home, I would much rather feed my family a bird that was released into the wild in June / July, lived a free, healthy life, then shot in the winter than some poor bird that was reared in a barn, killed at 16 weeks and wrapped in plastic to be offered at Tescos for a pittance. This is so far from the Prince Harry photo point of the post, I know, and at the end of the day, we aren't going to agree, but its important that people get a different perspective.

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Great life for them. 🙄

Spirallingdownwards · 16/04/2024 11:08

WinnieTheW0rm · 16/04/2024 11:03

I don't remember seeing bleeding ponies when other royals are playing, and the only one where there has been a fatality is Harry.

Maybe however he's just unlucky, rather than it being anything to do with his riding and choice of type of spurs

oh you don't remember seeing it so it can't have happened 🙄

CurlewKate · 16/04/2024 11:09

Don't get me wrong, I despise the lot of them and for me they will be, if not first against the wall certainly first evicted when the revolution comes. But there are things which are by definition cruel-for example horse racing, polo. And there are things that appear cruel and which might not necessarily be, like stalking. For me it shows an unpleasant mindset to want to do it for pleasure, but it's not necessarily cruel. And deciding that something is or is not cruel because of how we feel about the person doing it is a dangerous path.

Tempnamechng · 16/04/2024 11:09

LivingInChesapeakeShores · 16/04/2024 11:07

Great life for them. 🙄

Which, the Tesco chicken or the wild pheasant?

Soigneur · 16/04/2024 11:09

MaturingCheeseball · 16/04/2024 11:00

There are some species which are out of control and need to be culled. Magpies, for example, will strip an area of all other birds, eating their eggs and throwing young out of nests. Wood pigeons seem to have no predators - there are huge flocks of them in my (suburban) garden.

I can’t pretend to really understand countryside management, so I can only comment on the polo pony injury which is clear to see and is quite sickening.

Magpies populations are self-limiting, like those of any other predator. Woodpigeons are heavily predated by raptors -the population of which is kept artificially low by illegal persecution by gamekeepers. There are only 50 breeding pairs of Hen Harriers (a once common bird of prey) left in England. Harry has done his part, with a breeding pair being shot in view of witnesses at Sandringham while he was out rough shooting with a friend. No prosecutions for lack of evidence of course...

LivingInChesapeakeShores · 16/04/2024 11:10

CurlewKate · 16/04/2024 11:09

Don't get me wrong, I despise the lot of them and for me they will be, if not first against the wall certainly first evicted when the revolution comes. But there are things which are by definition cruel-for example horse racing, polo. And there are things that appear cruel and which might not necessarily be, like stalking. For me it shows an unpleasant mindset to want to do it for pleasure, but it's not necessarily cruel. And deciding that something is or is not cruel because of how we feel about the person doing it is a dangerous path.

Doing it for pleasure makes them cruel.

orchiddottyback · 16/04/2024 11:10

DrJoanAllenby · 16/04/2024 10:37

www.animalaid.org.uk/massacre-windsor-estate-7000-wild-animals-killed-one-year/

The victims included:
• 3901 pigeons
• 1161 rabbits
• 772 jackdaws
• 325 squirrels
• 191 crows
• 159 foxes
• 56 roe deer
• 28 hares
• 9 moles

Prince Philip, the Duke of Edinburgh, is estimated to have shot at least 30,000 animals and birds, including deer, rabbit, hare, wild duck, snipe, woodcock, teal, pigeon, partridge and pheasant.
Although he has now bowed to public outrage and given up big game hunting, he has in the past taken part in an Indian tiger shoot, despite protests from British and Indian politicians.
On that same trip he killed a crocodile and six urials (mountain sheep).
He continued to enjoy shooting wild boar and travelled to Germany to do so. On one occasion he and Prince Charles are said to have killed 50 wild boar in a single day.

It would be nice if people who post things like this actually add some context.

The so called victims list includes species that are non native invasive species and need to be culled for the benefit of native species. Deer also have a sever lack of predators due to human extinction over the years and now its essential to cull the numbers, that goes on through out the UK in all areas. other wise their populations would be unsustainable and they would destroy our habitats.

On top of this its not as simple as the picture you paint, a lot of the habitats of significate importance such as Moorland for instance only services and shooting fund the land management paid for by shoots and other events. With out this land management they would be affected by colonisation and succession and no longer support the species that exist there and we would loose vitally important species and habitats.

So if you want them to stop funding and managing their land, who is going to pay for its management to support these diverse and critical habitats? Are you going to get the public on board and massively increase taxes and ask people to pay, they will laugh at you.

Its a catch 22 situation, so not the picture your trying to paint and before you say any thing about me I'm a conservationist but even i know there is a balance that needs to be struck to keep nature in balance.

CurlewKate · 16/04/2024 11:10

@Spirallingdownwards "only one where there has been a fatality is Harry.

There are frequent injuries and fatalities playing polo. They aren't usually caught on camera.

LivingInChesapeakeShores · 16/04/2024 11:12

Tempnamechng · 16/04/2024 11:09

Which, the Tesco chicken or the wild pheasant?

Both, but I was referring to you raising them only to be shot for pleasure and cash.

Spirallingdownwards · 16/04/2024 11:13

CurlewKate · 16/04/2024 11:10

@Spirallingdownwards "only one where there has been a fatality is Harry.

There are frequent injuries and fatalities playing polo. They aren't usually caught on camera.

Well that's down to bad luck then isn't it but luckily for you feeds the Harry bashing.

thisiswheretheseagullfliesaway · 16/04/2024 11:14

They all hunt don't they? His father and brother also played polo. Kate was pictured wearing a real fur hat. Let's face it if you're brought up to believe killing animals is all in jolly good fun it'll probably stick with you. Obviously what Harry did was awful but he's not really had great role models on that score.

CathyorClaire · 16/04/2024 11:15

I've posted links to polo spurs before but it's always worth a reminder:

Polo Boots, Spurs & Accessories (rjpolo.com)

Whips available too

Polo Whips (rjpolo.com)

Vile "sport"

Tempnamechng · 16/04/2024 11:18

LivingInChesapeakeShores · 16/04/2024 11:12

Both, but I was referring to you raising them only to be shot for pleasure and cash.

You missed out the words food and rural economy.

BigPimpinSpendinCheese · 16/04/2024 11:20

Agree. I wish more cared about the suffering in the meat industry too. But their suffering continues in the dark behind gates,cages and barns.

SoftLanding · 16/04/2024 11:21

Lots of the Royals including William, Charles, Kate, Edward, Anne, the late Queen and Philip have proved themselves to be a disgrace when it comes to animal welfare, not just Harry. Nasty, hypocritical bastards.

SoftLanding · 16/04/2024 11:25

How strange for the OP to single out Harry when talking about the treatment of animals and the Royal Family. 🙄 I don’t think the thread has gone the way the Harry bashers want these threads to go.

EdithWeston · 16/04/2024 11:26

thisiswheretheseagullfliesaway · 16/04/2024 11:14

They all hunt don't they? His father and brother also played polo. Kate was pictured wearing a real fur hat. Let's face it if you're brought up to believe killing animals is all in jolly good fun it'll probably stick with you. Obviously what Harry did was awful but he's not really had great role models on that score.

Neither William nor Harry have been seen hunting since the ban, and I don't think either went in for it much (it was much more associated with Charles and Camilla - Diana didn't (not a strong rider though it's well known that she learned) and Catherine is allergic to horses and I don't think she rides at all).

It was a great shame about the hat (if it was indeed real fur)

SoftLanding · 16/04/2024 11:34

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thisiswheretheseagullfliesaway · 16/04/2024 11:45

@EdithWeston it was real although apparently the alpacas died naturally 🙄 There is definitely pictures of her enjoying shoots.

Fair enough about the hunting thing. We've still hunting here in NI and I've seen many small pets killed by the hounds in their own gardens. I detest blood sports of all kinds.

My point still remains the royals haven't a great record in regards to cruelty to animals. Why on earth single Harry out?

RichardsGear · 16/04/2024 11:55

DrJoanAllenby · 16/04/2024 10:28

Prince Philip shoots Tiger and Queen poses with him next to dead Tiger.

www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/royals-bloody-trophy-hunting-past-23410242.amp

And he was made president of the WWF same year...

ManchesterBeatrice · 16/04/2024 12:04

It's really bizarre to target Harry, they are all at it.

Catherine and William shoot regularly, the Royals enjoy a good pheasant/grouse shoot.

They are adamantly into horse racing, many of them play polo, including Charles and William.

Very strange to single Harry out…

Eggplant44 · 16/04/2024 12:07

LivingInChesapeakeShores · 16/04/2024 10:21

They're not experts, they just want to feel big. Twats.

I don't agree with hunting animals that won't be eaten. However, I don't think royalty need to hunt to "feel big", that sensation is provided by their all to willing subjects.

MaturingCheeseball · 16/04/2024 12:07

It’s really not strange to single Harry out when he has been pictured riding a pony with spur wounds and he is making a polo documentary. He himself is doing the singling out.

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