What exactly is "the Sussex Squad"?

[Prydddan]

I don't know whether this is too controversial a topic for such a thread to be allowed to stand. But I post in good faith on a topic I believe has a lot of social and political relevance.

Does the "Sussex Squad" actually exist? If so, how do you join? If not, do people ever identify as belonging to it?

If it exists, was it hijacked by SarahData and Bouzy or was it their creation? And, if so, to what extent?

Thanks in advance.

And again I ask, why the obsession with the British royal family among people who mostly are not British or even Commonwealth citizens?

What's it to them if Kate is 'lazy' or if William supposedly 'briefed' against Harry several years ago?

And let's not pretend this is some great love for Meghan either. Most of them didn't have a clue who she was before she married into the 'irrelevant' royal family. They hate the royals more than they 'love' Harry and Meghan. The question is why? The British royals have no more impact on their lives than the Swedish or Nepalese royals.

I think that’s what a lot of us have been wondering. I am coming to the conclusion that there actually may not be a line. It’s why some (inc myself) are now drawing parallels to a cult

Are people similarly deranged about the Wales? I've read that the ultras on both sides of the Meghan/Kate divide can be toxic but (the last few months aside) they get treated fairly on here.

It's a fascinating psychological phenomenon.

most of the pro-H & M posters here are pretty moderate people who don't throw muck at William and Catherine, for example.

Not sure I agree.

They may not 'throw muck' themselves. But they don't seem to have an issue with those who do. Even when they claim that their posts are all about being against 'bullying'.

@MrsDanversGlidesAgain - that question will never be answered. It's been asked so many times on here:
Why support Meghan and Harry if you're republican? They're royal. Their children are Prince and Princess. They profit from their titles and the link to the monarchy. There's a coat if arms on the website. They're just royals who baulked at being told what to do.
That's surely something republicans would not support?

It's highly amusing that the Sussexes are some sort of poster children for the republicans on MN when at least one half of the couple, given half the chance, would be back in the RF faster than a rat up a drainpipe.

I agree. It is cult like.

Objectively, what really is so great about Harry and Meghan? She was a mediocre actress and he's a spoiled prince. In their 4 years since finding freedom, they have achieved very little. Why all the blind adoration?

That's why I say that they hate the royals more than they love the Sussexes. But it's not a principled anti monarchy stance by any means. They approve of the Sussexes using their royal titles. They would have loved for them to get 'half in half out' and still be working royals.

None of it makes any sense. I agree that the Sussex fandom is a fascinating phenomenon.

It's not a principled anti Monarchy stance
No, it's not, @IcedPurple , because you could respect that and engage with it.
It's just slagging off the other royals and feting these royals.

That's why I say that they hate the royals more than they love the Sussexes

I'd bet that if you ask some of the fandom in other countries 'why do you hate the royals?' you wouldn't get an answer; or a least not a thought-out reasonable one.

The efforts to undermine the British monarchy are aligned with widespread efforts to undermine truth and reason. The same sort of actors are behind it as the ones who want us all to ignore the fact that there are two sexes and to make it a crime to speak the truth. It’s an attack on reason, democracy, science, progress and western thinking and institutions. The social media trolls are the useful idiots of the current age. It’s terrifying how they believe online is real, due to living in echo chambers and having been stupefied by their addiction.

If Kim’s oiled butt is still being talked about in 500 -1000 years time then that actually would be amazing and en par with British royals

I'd agree with there being a bigger picture and that the squad and their principals are the useful idiots here.

I wonder if the whole Sussex Squad thing would have gained much traction without the covid lock downs. That was such a weird time and it might explain the distended in reach between the conspiracies that are spread by them and things that were written in other 'team' online conflicts.

There is of course also the other factor of how things would have been different for the Sussexes themselves if they hadn't left just before lockdown, but that's another thread.

@StormzyinaTCup

Amen to that!

Couldn’t agree more!

@PinkTonic I typed that out and posted it before refreshing, and see you said what I wanted to say but much more succinctly and coherently!

Or is it that M presented herself on Oprah as having been mistreated by the RF for racial reasons; that then caused a lot of Americans to take against the RF; and Nefarious Anti -UK/West/Commonwealth destabilisers have since fuelled that into something that could become more politically sigificant?

@Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstomycar

That is exactly the tactic used by the woman I mentioned. She did go after the RF and their children. Got fired for comments about shooting and killing people. Then claimed she was the victim. Her toxicity online is somewhat disguised under the guise of being a Royal Family commentator. On the surface she seems innocent. But she has connections with Bouzy - enough to get her gofundme tweeted out by him. And Scobie - close enough to give her an interview.

So painting themselves as victims in a fight against bullying is an obvious tactic. Surely some of the H&M supporters were unaware up to a certain point. Like Serenster describes, trying to be kind and fair and assuming the best intentions. But at a certain point the penny should have dropped.

@Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstomycar see I thought exactly the same about your post re getting the point across!

@PinkTonic

That is an interesting insight, the SS as part of an attack on Western values and perspectives on reality.

Wow, thanks again @Turtlerussell

I feel like I should be paying you an hourly PA rate).

P.S. I didn't expect this post to last for even 8 posts, let alone 8 pages! Thanks again for everyones' input.

I think maybe some of the really pro-Royalists (can't even say they're particularly just pro-W&C) can be a bit deranged. Those stupid rumours about moon bumps & surrogacy. I tend to just ignore or block those that do. They aren't as numerous or as toxic as the Sussex Squad IME, though I admit I may just miss a few of them as I do ignore/block.

I would have described myself ad a lukewarm Republican tbh, but I found myself correcting so much stupid misinformation about the BRF and our Monarchy (because I'm pedantic that if you're going to criticise, then be factual) that I've found myself much more appreciative of the RF and the stability they provide. I'd say I'm now a Monarchist. Plus the fact I love me some good being- and Republicans plans for the UKare severely deficient in tiaras.

I knew who Meghan was (I had watched Suits from the start), though when the Press first mentioned her I had to Google as I wasn't sure if she was "Donna", "Rachel" or "Harvey or Louis' " girlfriend from the show. I knew her face but not her name. I was a big supporter of them and defended them a lot up to 2020, when I also realised I was having to twist myself in circles to keep defending them. The OW interview was the last straw for me. It was so obviously full of half truths and blatant misinformation I just couldn't anymore. Any criticism I have of them is solely due to their own actions.

I did point out a while ago that if you support members of the RF that makes you a Royalist (a Monarchist supports the Monarchy - not necessarily particular members of it). So H&M supporters can say they don't support the BRF, but the only reason you even know about them is because they are Royals - you're a Royalist IMO.

It is interesting how the Sussex Squad are now being exposed. I've posted before that I'm finding Bouzy throwing away his reputation on continually going on about the stupid Windsor Farm Shop video is like a car crash I can't stop looking at. He's still going!

That should say I like "bling" not being.

I missed the edit window.

I will say, much as I enjoyed the Coronation, it was far too deficient in tiaras, crowns/coronets and jewels.

Everyone should have been rigged out in as many tiaras and coronets as the Country has. I wanted the Abbey so full of bling the cameras couldn't focus on the dazzle.

Credible allegations of financial fraud by BLM leaders began coming out in April 2020. Harry and Meghan left UK in June.

I think H&M benefited from the timing in the sense of gaining some support from online posters who are fed up with racism but were also seeing that some BLM leaders were using the cause of racism for their own personal gain. Meghan was still credible at that point. Seems H&M aren’t that different in how they’ve used their own movement, though.