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REUTERS: Only a minority of Britons under 50 support the monarchy

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TallerSally · 16/03/2024 13:23

The chart below, along with the unprecedented level of social media (and even royalty!) mocking around Katespiracy and Katephotogate, could send a chill down the RF's spine.

Whilst 70% of those aged 65+ and 50% of the 50-64 (the demographic on MN?) support the monarchy, this drops to 30% among the 25-49 and ONLY 19% among the 18-24s - YouGov Jan 24 data.

Some will say "that's nowt new!" But with TikTok, X and other SM having unprecedented reach (far more than mainstream media) and cultivating literally thousands of GenZ and Millennial mini-influencers, and with the RF in its current state of turmoil (some of it illness-related, some not, incl. Prince William being largely MIA, the RF's reluctance to deal with Prince Andrew and his grifting ex-wife, Rose Hanbury and extra child (!!) rumours, the casting-out and continued vilification of M&H, the embarrassment that is uncle Gary, etc etc), are comparisons to a decade ago going to be helpful in predicting what this means for the RF in the future? I doubt it.

We all know the billionaire RF continue to sustain their taxpayer and IHT exemption-funded luxury lives thanks to the public's goodwill, hence they employ loads of professional PR people to do their comms. But if there's anything recent events have shown, KP in particular suck at it, with the KP comms team the subject of derision and ridicule around the globe.

It's easy to say "they've weathered worse", but the past isn't a guarantor of the future. I'm sure Boris Johnson also thought he could lie to the public forever... until one day, the tide turned. Not saying this is an identical situation, but the recent lies emanating from KP (I'm sorry, issuing a fake 'proof of life' photo is equivalent to telling a lie) are part of a culture of secrecy and public manipulation.

And consider this: last August, the above numbers were:
80% of those aged 65+ and 67% of the 50-64s support the monarchy, versus 56% among the 25-49s and 37% among the 18-24s. So a drop of 26pp (percentage points) for the 25-49s, and 18pp for the 18-24s.

And who's to say what the numbers will be post-Katephotogate?

https://www.reuters.com/breakingviews/uk-monarchy-suffers-an-impairment-its-goodwill-2024-03-13/

REUTERS: Only a minority of Britons under 50 support the monarchy
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Begsthequestion · 16/03/2024 13:26

Finally, some good news!

Ringpeace · 16/03/2024 13:32

The RF are an irrelevant mob of parasites.

Get rid.

Mugglewumppp · 16/03/2024 13:33

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LadyWhineglass · 16/03/2024 13:54

Only a minority of Britons under 50 own a road map.

CoffeeCantata · 16/03/2024 14:04

i didn't support the monarchy when I was young and naive.
There are lots of people over 50.

Reddog1 · 16/03/2024 14:14

Brexity old types cream their pants over the royals. Young people find the concept of monarchy vaguely ridiculous. This poll reflects that.

BenefitWaffle · 16/03/2024 14:24

The Monarchy will end. When is the real question.

Roussette · 16/03/2024 14:33

I do wonder if the number of those who line the streets, camp out with silly Union flag hats on to catch a glimpse of a carriage...has gone down.

Surely it has?

Novella4 · 16/03/2024 14:50

It’s no longer true that antiestablishment young people ( generally) become
right wing / establishment old people

It hasn’t been true for quite a while .
Its partly that people are no longer reliant on one media ‘voice’ but also that people don’t have the same stake in society/ security that they used to have .
Demographics are coming for the ‘royals’ .
I read somewhere that the ‘royals’ operate are around 50 years behind the rest of society .

I think recent events have borne that out .

The uk is failing . We need a reboot ! Reform and refresh re political systems .
The Windsors will still be there , their fans can still fawn . Just no more secret deals , no more public money and they will be subject to the law

Backwiththeillbehaviour · 16/03/2024 14:53

Can't stand them,and I say that as a former employee in their equine circle. (Polo)

DeftDenimPoet · 16/03/2024 14:57

@Backwiththeillbehaviour why?

Peakypolly · 16/03/2024 15:00

50% of the 50-64 (the demographic on MN?) Is that really the demographic here? Thought it was younger.
FYI while I'm here, I don't support the monarchy but my 3 teen/20 DC = 1 x no opinion, 1x pro and 1x anti. Interesting how opinions form.

Roussette · 16/03/2024 15:02

Novella4 · 16/03/2024 14:50

It’s no longer true that antiestablishment young people ( generally) become
right wing / establishment old people

It hasn’t been true for quite a while .
Its partly that people are no longer reliant on one media ‘voice’ but also that people don’t have the same stake in society/ security that they used to have .
Demographics are coming for the ‘royals’ .
I read somewhere that the ‘royals’ operate are around 50 years behind the rest of society .

I think recent events have borne that out .

The uk is failing . We need a reboot ! Reform and refresh re political systems .
The Windsors will still be there , their fans can still fawn . Just no more secret deals , no more public money and they will be subject to the law

I find your post very interesting. Whereas it would have been the younger generation getting older and becoming more royal supporting, I do agree that times have changed enormously

My DCs in their thirties will not be changing their view, I would put money on it. They have no interest in them, we never talk about them. But I will correct that and say for the first time ever they are saying what the hell is going on!

Mugglewumppp · 16/03/2024 15:09

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1dayatatime · 16/03/2024 15:10

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Hmmm

You do know that's not how the internet works? It's not just a question of popping round and flipping the off switch on their router.

5thCommandment · 16/03/2024 15:14

BenefitWaffle · 16/03/2024 14:24

The Monarchy will end. When is the real question.

Unlikely given the money they bring in, the land they own and the staff they employ (thousands).
That said, I'm under 40 and can't stand them. Miss the Queen....

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1dayatatime · 16/03/2024 15:15

@Novella4

I think you raise some interesting points:

  1. It’s no longer true that antiestablishment young people ( generally) become right wing / establishment old people
  2. The uk is failing . We need a reboot ! Reform and refresh re political systems .

The point that worries me is that reform and reboot will not be done in an orderly consensus manner but rather in a reactionary way. Plus I'm not sure that the refreshed political system will be to everyone' tastes.

Roussette · 16/03/2024 15:22

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Why do you have to pick at my post?

I will rephrase it for you. Just once they have said to me in the last couple of weeks what the heck is going on with the royal family. Apart from that they have never ever talked about them and have no interest in them whatsoever

I hope that is credible enough for you now but bear in mind I did put 'but I will correct that and say....' which you omitted to put in your post. I wonder why lol

skilpadde · 16/03/2024 15:24

A sizeable minority say they want rid of the monarchy, same as it's been for decades, same as it will be for decades.

Trouble is, opinion polls on this just don't matter until there's some serious proposal for constitutional reform. It needs a major political party to commit to reform, to consulting with us on the kind of constitutional model we should have instead (one like the US? Ireland? France? Germany?), and to holding a referendum.

And given that in the face of potential change, many will lean with the status quo (better the devil you know, especially after the consequences of Brexit), they'd better be asking for a vote on a damn good model where a majority of people can see it would be better than the current constitutional monarchy.

Or, more likely, people will still be expressing their dislike of the monarchy for decades to com.

pipsfromthefuture · 16/03/2024 15:24

I think we'll continue tonsee support trending downward, especially with the older supporters transitioning out, and a change in generational values.

I think they'll be able to save themselves if they move towards a model like Spain /Scandis

jeffgoldblum · 16/03/2024 15:27

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That would definitely be in absolute untruth!

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1dayatatime · 16/03/2024 15:15

@Novella4

I think you raise some interesting points:

  1. It’s no longer true that antiestablishment young people ( generally) become right wing / establishment old people
  2. The uk is failing . We need a reboot ! Reform and refresh re political systems .

The point that worries me is that reform and reboot will not be done in an orderly consensus manner but rather in a reactionary way. Plus I'm not sure that the refreshed political system will be to everyone' tastes.

I think the Boomers are the last right wing / establishment generation. Although they weren't always like that as they were part of the 60s and 70s counter culture before Thatcher reset everything.

Hard to see the Millienials and Zoomers ending up as right wing and establishment but then they don't read the Daily Mail or the other ridiculous UK newspapers.

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