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Finding all the Princess of Wales conspiracy theories so odd. Am I in as much of a minority as it seems?

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CupOfCoffeeandaPineappleChunk · 16/03/2024 01:33

Perhaps I'm naive. Maybe my imagination isn't as wild as it could be ( although it is general incredibly lively), maybe ive got a realistic perspective, or maybe I've got it utterly wrong. Whichever is the case time will tell.
I'm Finding it difficult to understand why pepole would think it so inconceivable that firstly she has had surgery, rather than is having a MH crisis or divorce out they're is done other strange mystery afoot. It's apparently unimsginsble that surgery is major and takes a lot of recovery to get back to full health, a)to be potentially walking around for hours on end not feeling drained and exhausted and. b) being in the public eye wanting/ needing/ being expected to look good on return to public life.

i personally underwent abdominal surgery at the same hospital as the PoW a fortnight ago And stayed in for 6 days. Apparently many pepole in the Gi unit stay up to a fortnight two weeks on, although my cuts are tiny (keyhole), I am swollen up and currently am a similar size to I was when I was 7.5 months pregnant, covered in bruises, & in almost constant severe pain despite a cocktail of drugs and can barely move around. To say I'm exhausted would be the understatement. I normaly walk 6 miles every day and work out bit I can't ever get to the street corner150ft away and back without being crippled. I'm carrying about 7kg of extra weight in swelling. Needless to say apart from feeling grim I look deathly.
I've been given a very structured list of things I can't do for 6 weeks, very basic things - I tried as it seemed so ridiculous. Clearly its not ridiculous. Abdominal surgery can be a huge deal. I've been told 6 weeks to be able to do ordinary things like mopping the floor and hovering, carrying anything more than 4 or 5 kgs the 12 weeks to get back to my usual stamina and condition.

If i was appearing in the scrutiny of the public eye I would not be going out if I did not look back to normal and feel good. Surgery makes you feel really low and you need to feel good about yourself especially when you're going to be picked apart the world over. .

People firstly have no idea what is involved I often in major surgery. Add in having to maintain an Element of appearance for the public so asks extra time to achieve that.
They seems to be huge confusion between planned/ elective vs emergency surgery. Its always planned unless you are literally rushed in as a critical emergency. Otherwise it's classed as planned I saw my surgeon for a consultation. My op was the next day. Urgent but not an emergency, therefore planned.

Is it really that strange?..

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Yirk · 16/03/2024 08:11

I agree, leave her be, it's her body and private business, just let her heal and then when she is ready I'm sure she will return to her royal duties.

Meadowbird · 16/03/2024 08:13

I’m not particularly interested in what is wrong with her - but I am fascinated by how this has been handled, and what a cock-up they appear to have made of it. They could have issued a ‘Kate thanks everyone for their wishes’ message, PW could have said he was ill rather than ‘personal reasons ‘ for missing the memorial and the photo is just bizarre. It suggests that pw is out of touch and doesn’t take advice.

EdithWeston · 16/03/2024 08:15

Hungrycaterpillarsmummy · 16/03/2024 08:00

This is the media's fault and the public with no brain cells fall for it just be happy to know you have some intelligence :)

I think it's strange how the media have really turned on Kate and William. Basically they aren't playing to the tune if the media so now they get treated like shit.

It's like a toddler tantrumming (said on various earlier threads, by me and by other posters)

No matter how loud, you don't cave.

Health is private and no updates until the time specified - important to them.

Mothers Day photo issued as usual; blows the "just one photo would end this" out of the water, showing that it was thin end of the wedge pleading.

Normal levels of post-production manipulation applied. Waleses held to account - fair enough (and hope to see all others held to same standard). The lesson to be learned here is to be even more protective and not issue new material, even on routine release days that fall during the period.

But the core issue - privacy when unwell - is being maintained.
They are right

Even if you fervently hold the belief that "there is something more to this", there's nothing that will support or refute your belief until around Easter.

Attention span seems to have plummeted, and the ability to wait seems to have vanished!

ChanelNo19EDT · 16/03/2024 08:17

The press is clearly punishing her for denying them access. Not just gutter press, but all of the journalists who sit around youtubing and discussing whether this request for privacy is realistic or acceptable..

At first they were sympathetic but now their voracious hunger for an update has become a bit threatening. Old articles being re-circulated. It's like the press cabal is warning her. You need us honey. You walk our line missy.

The press would download her eat her if they could. Hyenas feeding on a gazelle's carcass. Oh the poor gazelle, more salt.

EdithWeston · 16/03/2024 08:18

Meadowbird · 16/03/2024 08:13

I’m not particularly interested in what is wrong with her - but I am fascinated by how this has been handled, and what a cock-up they appear to have made of it. They could have issued a ‘Kate thanks everyone for their wishes’ message, PW could have said he was ill rather than ‘personal reasons ‘ for missing the memorial and the photo is just bizarre. It suggests that pw is out of touch and doesn’t take advice.

They did

That's part of the problem, isn't it? The assertion that they didn't do something being repeatedly and confidently made, even though there's proof in black and white to the contrary - it even became a running joke on one thread because the statement with thanks was posted and reposted so many times that some posters got a bit sick of seeing it)

But still it had to be posted, as still there were posters who believed, despite clear evidence otherwise, that a cock up had been made

Serenster · 16/03/2024 08:19

I find it odd that if the changes to the photo are so minor, they wouldn’t have shared the original RAW file with the photo agencies (not the public) when requested to clear this up and prevent the kill notices.

It’s possible they thought that if they did, it would immediately be leaked?

IsoldeWagner · 16/03/2024 08:19

I agree, @ChanelNo19EDT and the fact that a woman can't have some privacy after surgery is actually very shocking.

DappledThings · 16/03/2024 08:21

EdithWeston · 16/03/2024 08:18

They did

That's part of the problem, isn't it? The assertion that they didn't do something being repeatedly and confidently made, even though there's proof in black and white to the contrary - it even became a running joke on one thread because the statement with thanks was posted and reposted so many times that some posters got a bit sick of seeing it)

But still it had to be posted, as still there were posters who believed, despite clear evidence otherwise, that a cock up had been made

Indeed. And even then there were posters saying it wasn't the correct form of language or something or issued on the wrong day and they still weren't satisfied.

Velvian · 16/03/2024 08:23

I agree, OP. She is obviously going through an awful time with her health, she has evidently had major surgery, given the length of the hospital stay.

The Palace said after Easter and we are not there yet. The Mother's Day photo was a mistake, but the press reaction to it seems really OTT.

I think the biggest issue with the main royals, is having different press offices. They are one family and press offices should be amalgamated to avoid throwing each other to the wolves.

IsoldeWagner · 16/03/2024 08:25

Who is throwing who to the wolves? What do you mean, @Velvian ? Who are the wolves?

Onand · 16/03/2024 08:26

KP have hardly been convincing in their miss-steps to ease any genuine concerns, that ‘composition’ fake image they released was embarrassing, that they thought they could get away with it shows the sheer arrogance and ineptitude of such a supposed prestigious press office.

Understandably Royal watchers are slightly nervous when you see dismissive posts with words such as hysteria and frenzied in them. Time will tell, hopefully she does make an appearance at Easter and it’s business as usual with full recovery, if not though…

RoseMarigoldViolet · 16/03/2024 08:27

I agree.
Maybe it’s all been whipped up to sell some newspapers!

Tatumm · 16/03/2024 08:28

Yes. I am not a royal fan but entirely agree with the OP.

smilesy · 16/03/2024 08:29

People have forgotten that most of the time, things are what they say on the tin. We are so used to hearing about bizarre and unusual things happening that we have forgotten that for the most part, life is pretty mundane and the majority of people tell us the truth. Lying is hard work because you have to remember every detail every time you tell the story, and conspiracies even more so because of the sheer number of people who would have to be in on the conspiracy to make it work. But hey ho, that’s too sensible for some.
As said above, if the princess doesn’t put in an appearance around Easter, then is the time to start wondering

Tatumm · 16/03/2024 08:30

When there is this kind of speculation it is often to distract the public away from something important but unpalatable.

AliasGrape · 16/03/2024 08:30

I’m totally with you, I find it all so baffling.

I can completely believe she has had urgent if not emergency surgery. Maybe she’s swollen, bruised, has a bag, is on steroids or other medication that’s changing her appearance. Doesn’t want to appear in public looking/ feeling like that, needs a break from maintaining the ‘perfect princess’ image which rightly or wrongly it seems to be her main role to project.

When people wouldn’t settle for that there was the car shot with her mum - it was so clearly her yet people were making the most insane assertions about it being a double, her sister, a clone etc etc. Just batshit. Yeah her face looked a bit puffier - possibly medication.

Wasn’t enough for people, more batshittery hence the Mother’s Day photo. Maybe she did want a better picture of her swapped in because didn’t want to share her current appearance, maybe the kids wouldn’t sit still or they couldn’t get all of them smiling at the same time. Whatever, it was edited. Can’t bring myself to care about that either to be honest.

Further car photo - also clearly her - more batshit theories and over analysis of the exact brick pattern behind her or whatever.

I’m neither a particular fan of the royals nor a republican. I’m not blindly defending her/ them i just can’t get caught up in the conspiracy madness. And some of the things being implied are disgusting, people should be ashamed to even come up with that shit.

IloveAslan · 16/03/2024 08:31

You are not wrong OP. All I can think is that some people have extremely dull lives and very little to occupy their tiny minds.

ChanelNo19EDT · 16/03/2024 08:32

The press is the entity that is feeding the vacuum of information to the wolves. They say nature abhors a vacuum and wow is that true. Updates on Kate is the lazy royal "journalist" bread and butter. And even criticism of kate for taking photos of her own children, that's not coming from a place of respect for tradition, royal records of the heir etc, no, it's their pap mates looking for the well paid easy gigs they used to enjoy before kate had the audacity to want privacy.
Most of these journalists will tell us when meghan sought too much attention but they'll take whatever discussion will fill 9 minutes. Whether that's condemning attention-seeking or a request for privacy.

I'd be scared in kate's shoes. The warnings have been issued. "You're good image in in our hands little lady".

Freakinfraser · 16/03/2024 08:35

I also agree with you. I think the issue is they have misled the public.

its heavily rumoured she was first operated on thr 28 December, and there were complications. So not the 15 Jan, and then the whole picture fiasco, of the faked composite image, and then of course the very odd pap shot of her turning away and just her silhouette.

it’s been very badly managed by Kensington palace, and led to a lot of speculation. It’s still possibly being badly managed by Kensington palace, for example j will be very surprised if she is back immediately after Easter and expect another update.

however the mad theories are really disturbing, from that absolute hate on twitter in Megan’s name, she’s dead, she’s been hurt by him, he’s divorcing her for rose, she’s in a coma, she’s got a stoma,it’s plastic surgery, she’s had a mental breakdown, it’s all karma for her treatment of Megan is appalling.

there are a lot of sick people out there, and I think there were a lot of people envious of Kate, she’s slim, attractive, wealthy, 3 kids, happy marriage popular and I think they were just waiting for an opportunity to attack and pile on. They sense weakness and are going for the jugular and enjoying it.

and this is then added to by the fact nature abhors a vacuum, and in the absence of information, and obvious mistruths, people then start to work out what is going on themselves. And get absolutely crazy with it.

themessygarden · 16/03/2024 08:35

Absolutely agree with you OP, wishing you a speedy recovery.

Araminta1003 · 16/03/2024 08:36

I am not surprised at all. The media want to make money so they invent stuff, hint, find anything possible to spin a story. The royals have had this since Diana. Hopefully they can develop a thick skin and see it with humour. Imagine sitting at home recovering, you have literally not been out or done anything and then you read these wild stories about yourself.

Charles is king now so the media lay off him, instead they have simply found their next scapegoats. Hopefully Will and Kate can learn to ignore it and laugh about it but it is quite cruel towards the children if they get wind of it at school. The media and anyone spreading rumours should be ashamed of themselves. Adults can handle but for kids this is abdominal behaviour. Let’s say your grandfather and mum are not well and you are worried a bit as a 10 year old or 8 year old child and then you somehow hear about these wild made up stories. Hopefully the children are being shielded.

LoreleiG · 16/03/2024 08:37

I agree. I find it astonishing that major surgery isn’t an acceptable reason to need time off. If it wasn’t the given reason it would be one of the conspiracy theories.

Get well soon OP.

JudesBiggestFan · 16/03/2024 08:43

What I find fascinating is that people find it so hard to believe something's amiss. Half of all marriages end in divorce. Yet the idea that the prince and princess of wales might be going through difficulties, for whatever reason, seems to be completely unpalatable. Their PR as the perfect beautiful couple really has been effective. Ultimately though, it's human nature to gossip. The royal family capitalise on that by sharing family snaps and little snippets of their life so that people love them and they feel relevant in this modern age. If Kate is ill, what it is could have been shared and there would have been been nothing but good will for her. As it is they've tried to turn off a tap and tell us all to keep our sticky beaks out and it just doesn't work like that - certainly not for the press. It wouldn't have taken much really...William saying while out and about that she's been so poorly but is being looked after, a pic of some cards from the kids saying get well soon mommy, even a two minute clip from her saying thank you for all the well wishes I'll be back very soon. If she's due back to full duties in April then surely a quick video must be fine by now. But there's been none of that so something feels off when they have such brilliant pr usually.
Disclaimer...I have a very full life with three kids, a job and a house renovation. But do work in pr and I do like to gossip. It's just been fascinating to watch.

Rowansiskin · 16/03/2024 08:46

I agree OP. Some of the comments elsewhere are awful, treating a woman who has had major surgery’s health and private life as entertainment. I reported one of the threads and MNHQ said it could stay up and I could just call it out on the thread, they prefer to allow ‘discussion’.

Noseybookworm · 16/03/2024 08:46

I'm no royalist but honestly, the feeding frenzy and ridiculous theories have got out of hand. Not sure why it is so difficult for people to believe the poor woman has had a major operation and needs time to recover. Abdominal surgery requires extensive healing and recuperation. My friend had a hysterectomy because of massive fibroids - I visited her several weeks after and was shocked to see her hobbling about, her little face was grey. She said her insides felt like she was full of broken glass. It was probably 6 weeks before she started to feel anything like normal. I hope poor Catherine is staying away from all the speculation and gossip and recuperating well.

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