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If you were William, how would you handle the Diana Legacy Awards from now on?

187 replies

Prydddan · 15/03/2024 11:27

Would you distance yourself from it, on the grounds that it provides an opportunity for your estranged brother to take a poke at you?

Carry on, grey rocking the antics from Montecito?

Something else I can't think of?

(And before anyone rocks up to tell me to get a life, find something to do, take up a hobby - I'm having a quiet day today where I'll do what I fancy, so go take your own advice.)

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BenefitWaffle · 15/03/2024 16:28

And the Royal family got away with painting Diana as a crazy ex because the public were less aware of this trope and how it is used to discredit women.

I hope Kate is happy in her marriage. Because if she ever divorces the same tactic will be used on her.

smilesy · 15/03/2024 16:34

BenefitWaffle · 15/03/2024 16:26

It was a slur. And it was exactly what the Royal family had been saying for years to discredit her.
William can say what he likes. But when he is appearing at engagements he should be professional. If he wants to present Diana Legacy Awards he should be respectful towards her memory in public. What he wants to say or do privately is up to him.

I’m not sure William is stupid enough to appear on TV and issue a “slur” against his mother. You do not know how Diana reacted or what was going on in private. Neither do I of course. But William does

ShamedBySiri · 15/03/2024 16:39

when he is appearing at engagements he should be professional. If he wants to present Diana Legacy Awards he should be respectful towards her memory in public.

Was William not professional at the awards last night? Did he announce they were in memory of his crazy, paranoid mother or something? I listened to his speech. Must have missed that bit. 🙄

As far as I can recall he has only ever spoken of Diana's paranoia once, when the full Bashir story came out and he was denouncing the BBC. He also demanded that the film if the interview be removed and should never be seen again. I think that was protecting his mother's memory don't you?

Roussette · 15/03/2024 16:49

He also demanded that the film if the interview be removed and should never be seen again. I think that was protecting his mother's memory don't you?

I don't agree. These things should be allowed to stand. It was history at the time after all
It's like the palace not allowing all the funeral footage to be shown, only selected parts. Why?

The interview happened and the public should be allowed to draw their own conclusions, not have it banished because they don't like what Diana said

Ditto the RF fly on the wall from the 60s ... The Queen banned that as well. There's just 3 mins available on YouTube out of over an hour. Every now and again more appears on YouTube but it is quickly zapped

Inkanta · 15/03/2024 16:53

Roussette · 15/03/2024 16:49

He also demanded that the film if the interview be removed and should never be seen again. I think that was protecting his mother's memory don't you?

I don't agree. These things should be allowed to stand. It was history at the time after all
It's like the palace not allowing all the funeral footage to be shown, only selected parts. Why?

The interview happened and the public should be allowed to draw their own conclusions, not have it banished because they don't like what Diana said

Ditto the RF fly on the wall from the 60s ... The Queen banned that as well. There's just 3 mins available on YouTube out of over an hour. Every now and again more appears on YouTube but it is quickly zapped

Yes completely agree Rousette

Prydddan · 15/03/2024 16:55

BenefitWaffle · 15/03/2024 15:48

Cambridge Dictionary gives a much fuller definition. You cut and pasted a section of the definition to justify the crazy ex trope towards Diana.

I cut and pasted the part of the definition that fits with my understanding of William's statement, to illustrate how he might be using the word.

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BenefitWaffle · 15/03/2024 17:02

Diana gave the TV interview because she was fed up of her words being twisted by the press. She wanted to give her views in her own words. The interview should be available. Diana has been silenced. Anyone can claim she said something that she did not.
William was not professional. He should have stayed until his brother had finished speaking. We all know he hates his brother, but act like a professional at a public event.

BenefitWaffle · 15/03/2024 17:04

And Diana's interview was hidden so Camilla be rehabilitated as Queen. It was part of preparing Charles and Camilla to be King and Queen.

Roussette · 15/03/2024 17:06

BenefitWaffle · 15/03/2024 17:04

And Diana's interview was hidden so Camilla be rehabilitated as Queen. It was part of preparing Charles and Camilla to be King and Queen.

Yes
Nothing is done by coincidence. There are always reasons which makes these latest events quite extraordinary

smilesy · 15/03/2024 17:18

Roussette · 15/03/2024 16:49

He also demanded that the film if the interview be removed and should never be seen again. I think that was protecting his mother's memory don't you?

I don't agree. These things should be allowed to stand. It was history at the time after all
It's like the palace not allowing all the funeral footage to be shown, only selected parts. Why?

The interview happened and the public should be allowed to draw their own conclusions, not have it banished because they don't like what Diana said

Ditto the RF fly on the wall from the 60s ... The Queen banned that as well. There's just 3 mins available on YouTube out of over an hour. Every now and again more appears on YouTube but it is quickly zapped

On a human level, don’t you think that Williami might find the interview painful to
watch and not feel it reflects a true representation of his mother and the situation, because of Bashir’s manipulation of her? That she wasn’t speaking from a well informed perspective, but her words were a reaction to untruths she had been told?

edited to add missing word

pipsfromthefuture · 15/03/2024 17:28

If William can't be mature and stay for the awards, then he shouldn't take part. Simple.

The awards aren't about him.

pipsfromthefuture · 15/03/2024 17:29

Also, what Harry and Meghan do on another continent, an ocean and 8 hours away, had nothing to do with William. If it's that easy to overshadow them, or difficult to ignore them, then they hsve bigger problems.

Roussette · 15/03/2024 17:31

smilesy · 15/03/2024 17:18

On a human level, don’t you think that Williami might find the interview painful to
watch and not feel it reflects a true representation of his mother and the situation, because of Bashir’s manipulation of her? That she wasn’t speaking from a well informed perspective, but her words were a reaction to untruths she had been told?

edited to add missing word

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I get what you are saying but a lot of what she said was true. Three in the marriage etc. And more. I managed to see a clip the other day of something she was saying and it rang so true
It was a slice of history and generations to come should be able to watch it.

BenefitWaffle · 15/03/2024 17:32

@smilesy Diana wanted to give a TV interview and was deciding who to grant that to. Bashir manipulated Diana so he was given the interview. Diana still said what she thought and what she had said in other media.
No doubt it is painful to watch an interview of your dead mother upset. But is that really a reason why she should be silenced?
Diana was silenced to make life easier for Charles and Camilla. They wanted to silence her when she was alive and failed. They succeeded in silencing her in death.

BenefitWaffle · 15/03/2024 17:33

pipsfromthefuture · 15/03/2024 17:28

If William can't be mature and stay for the awards, then he shouldn't take part. Simple.

The awards aren't about him.

I agree with this. I am fine if he finds it too difficult to be in the same room as Harry, step back then. But if you are going to attend, act professionally.

Roussette · 15/03/2024 17:34

Incidentally @smilesy well done you for giving your reason for an edit
I must try and remember to do that but I keep forgetting. I think there should be 'reason for edit' coming up automatically. On another niche forum I post on occasionally you have to fill out why you have edited

I have seen posts to me that when I read it first, then go back and see there is an edit and it bears no resemblance to the original post!!

BenefitWaffle · 15/03/2024 17:35

Can you not see the original post before the edit? I assumed you could. I only ever edit spelling and grammar mistakes.

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 15/03/2024 17:38

I think they should abandon all the ‘awards’ and the reminiscences and the fake grief and just let the poor woman rest in peace.

Her ‘legacy’ is the ex mistress on the throne, and the two dickheads slugging it out in public. Some of the older public still remember her with warmth, but we can do that without hypocritical ‘ceremonies’ and ‘awards’.

Roussette · 15/03/2024 17:39

BenefitWaffle · 15/03/2024 17:35

Can you not see the original post before the edit? I assumed you could. I only ever edit spelling and grammar mistakes.

Yes you can
What has happened to me is...
I read a post addressed to me. Then I carry on reading the thread but go back to look at the post I have just read and I see there is an edit

The second version is nothing like the first!

Not all the time, but it does happen!

Salemforcuddles · 15/03/2024 17:41

BenefitWaffle · 15/03/2024 16:26

It was a slur. And it was exactly what the Royal family had been saying for years to discredit her.
William can say what he likes. But when he is appearing at engagements he should be professional. If he wants to present Diana Legacy Awards he should be respectful towards her memory in public. What he wants to say or do privately is up to him.

You don't know it was a slur be sure you don't know what the intent was

People who read into things that aren't actually there can come across as a little paranoid.....

Salemforcuddles · 15/03/2024 17:43

It would have been nice if both men could have put their differences aside , even for a short while, in order to honour their mother

GetWhatYouWant · 15/03/2024 18:07

BenefitWaffle · 15/03/2024 17:04

And Diana's interview was hidden so Camilla be rehabilitated as Queen. It was part of preparing Charles and Camilla to be King and Queen.

I don't agree with a lot of what you have said on this thread but I totally agree with this comment.
The rehabilitation of Camilla has been extraordinary when you consider how she was viewed at that time. Every effort was made by the palace's PR team over the past 3 decades years to paint Diana in a negative light and silence her opinions so that Camilla could ultimately be made acceptable to the public.

Roussette · 15/03/2024 18:08

GetWhatYouWant · 15/03/2024 18:07

I don't agree with a lot of what you have said on this thread but I totally agree with this comment.
The rehabilitation of Camilla has been extraordinary when you consider how she was viewed at that time. Every effort was made by the palace's PR team over the past 3 decades years to paint Diana in a negative light and silence her opinions so that Camilla could ultimately be made acceptable to the public.

And that's very sad isn't it
..

QueenOfTheLabyrinth · 15/03/2024 18:10

BenefitWaffle · 15/03/2024 17:02

Diana gave the TV interview because she was fed up of her words being twisted by the press. She wanted to give her views in her own words. The interview should be available. Diana has been silenced. Anyone can claim she said something that she did not.
William was not professional. He should have stayed until his brother had finished speaking. We all know he hates his brother, but act like a professional at a public event.

William was not professional. He should have stayed until his brother had finished speaking. We all know he hates his brother, but act like a professional at a public event.

What are you on about?

The event at the Science Museum ENDED AT 9:00pm. The attendees then travelled back to the Hilton Hotel where they were staying & only entered the video conference room 11:30pm. Harry then dialled in at 12:00am & finished his talk at 1:00am.

What exactly should William have done given the timeline & the 3 HOUR GAP between the event ending & Harry finally turning up?

Maybe Harry should have been more professional and been available during the actual event instead of making the attendees wait around till MIDNIGHT to talk to him; to me that’s unprofessional & completely disrespectful to the attendees. I guess he was too busy with his other endeavours when the actual event was going on though.

GetWhatYouWant · 15/03/2024 18:10

Roussette · 15/03/2024 18:08

And that's very sad isn't it
..

Yes it is.