Kate in car with face turned away

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Sadly I've become too interested in Picturegate than is good for the level of hygiene in my household.
But ... that image of Kate turning away has stuck in my mind and is exercising me more than the Mothers Day photo.
If she was going to an appointment surely she'd be in a car with dark windows and not hitching a ride in a car n going somewhere else ?
She clearly did not want her face to be seen.
So she's being forced to do something against her will.
Which now makes me think differently about Harry and Meghan.
Any thoughts ?

Don't be silly. People who indulge in fantasy cause the problem.

The sooner she is better and back doing visits as normal, the better for everyone.

Surely it's you that needs to step away from the internet. It was clearly marked as a Kate thread, why click on it. Clearly you're invested also.

None of the pics released are of Kate. They are photoshopped dupes. Why KP have done this boggles the mind. Just stay quiet and let Kate heal and be well.

I think they are trolling us plebs now thinking. Fuck it we can push any old shit out now and it goes mad. Rather funny!

So I don’t think anything sinister has happened to Kate but I do think it shows how totally out of touch and full of arrogance and disdain the RF are as an institution with complete disregard for the population the serve.

And I do not think the Royal Family would be so foolish as to do to Kate what they did to Diana. Social media and screenshots mean it is whole different ball game now. You can not even watch Diana's interview online, so people can claim she said things that she did not. It is a different world now.
And if they were so foolish as to attempt this, it will backfire.

@Catsfrontbum I agree it demonstrates arrogance and disdain.

I haven't missed the point at all. I agree she should have stayed away until she's recovered, but she didn't.

They released the manipulated photo, which they must (or should) have known would create this furore.

They for some reason they felt it appropriate for her to join William in that car, in full view, when they could have blacked the windows, knowing that they would be photographed, and didn't manage the situation like they normally do.

I'm not saying she should have been smiling and waving, I'm saying if she wasn't willing or able to to that, she should have done what they said she'd do and stay out of sight and the fact that she didn't suggests really poor advice or a cock up of some sort.

The way this whole thing has been handled to is much more interesting than the actual story IMO. I hadn't taken any interest at all in the missing princess until all this started.

Oh fhs we are allowed to question it.

Please remember that many of us lived through a very similar scenario with Diana when there were hints in photos and loads of people said “you are being ridiculous if you think there is anything to insinuate from these pictures, so stop being so disrespectful” and low and behold the truth turned out to be ten times worse than anyone imagined. So you’ll have to forgive the scepticism.

Of course everyone hopes that Catherine is healthy and that her marriage is in fine form and that all of the current tittle tattle is ridiculously overblown speculation. But you can’t stop people wondering.

Completely agree that the MD photo is another thing entirely, but I do think that was also because she's unhappy with her appearance, which is desperately sad.

The problem with that photo is that there was an intention to deceive, they never should have done it.

The pap shot was a cliche reaction to bad PR.

There's no credible proof the pap shot was faked. MD yes.

I cannot stress enough how much I don’t care where Kate is, and have never given her any thought before this - but I am absolutely obsessed with the conspiracy of it all and find it so intriguing. It’s a PR disaster by what I assume is the world’s greatest PR team.

Given all the previous commentary around the ‘Firm’ and how managed we know royal life and publicity is managed, don’t you find it intriguing how out of control this all is?! It can’t be by design!

With 3 of 4 main royals out of action, Kate’s sudden disappearance, ambulances over Christmas, a royal-connected suicide, a photoshopped picture, the only pictures of Kate are poor quality and with her turned away… all within 3 months… It’s just unbelievable that the PR of it all isn’t being better managed.

Nobody knows if the car pap shit is real or faked.

Her head was fully turned to be facing away from William. She wasn't even looking straight ahead.

The picture was also one from when she and William visited the Somme in 2016.

Say what now? She was facing fully away from W AND her face was from the Somme in 2016?

Wouldn't the photographer have noticed that he was papping a car with a life sized cardboard cutout?

wow, this is seriously unpleasant of you to direct to anyone on this discussion @Giovannimilanese and is itself very toxic.

Yes, this is the much more interesting story to me. The fact that it's all been so badly handled by people who understand how important PR is and usually put so much into it.

This is my position on this too. I've never really been on this board before all this kicked off with Kate. But I'm fascinated by this!

I don’t have the faintest idea what is going on with her/them but evidence around the photos points to some foul play by the palace and/or British media (Telegraph, Sun, Mail).

First the British media proclaimed they wouldn’t publish any pics of her while ill and most didn’t publish the first car pic (with her mother).

The changes to the Mother’s Day pic were not made around enhancing the kids smiles, but to areas around the borders of Kate’s head and shoulders. It is obvious her head was patched in. It was a lie and the agencies were right to call it out.

The 2nd car pic was either very lucky or planned. The bricks only look different because the car was blacked out and the interior needed to be lightened significantly to see The occupants. The explanation that William would drop off his wife, ill and in the centre of an intense media storm, somewhere, like you or I might drop our partner off to work, is laughable. She would have had her own car, enhanced security detail etc. Strangely enough all the media (who said they wouldn’t publish pics of her) published it. Why? Could only have been because it was set up by the palace.

The same media then published an entirely false article about H&M’s birth announcement in the garden, saying the tree was fake. It was quickly rebutted by the photographer. Why did they do that?

These incidents make me feel I am being lied to for some reason.

I haven’t read Spare, but I am wondering whether to. And in the back of my mind I’m wondering if Charles is treating his cancer with medicine or alternative medicine (as he is fond of).

Finally, if William anticipates he might be king sooner rather than later, and he wants to end his marriage, then he needs to expedite it before he becomes King and head of the church When it would be much harder.

That's a good point about the two car pictures. The British press didn't publish the first, but have the 2nd, so something around their agreement with the royals must have changed?

This is exactly how I feel. Once it’s all come out in the wash and we know the person at the centre of it is physically and mentally OK, I cannot wait for the deep dives and long reads into the PR clusterfuck and behind-the-scenes shitfuckery that led to all this. It’s fascinating and I’m convinced it must come from the major players themselves rather than the PR people: the PRs are pros, the palaces are well-oiled machines – though I imagine the recent transfer of power and staff as Charles handed over Prince of Wales duties has made things come unstuck – but they’re also at the mercy of their bosses, and William obviously has the distrust of and history with the press due to his mother, plus whatever internal power struggles go on vs Camilla and her cohort… it’s all fascinating! It has to be because the “stars” are trying to run the show and ignoring what they’re being told, with maybe a side helping of palace changeover and people not settled into roles. Charles was PoW for decades and I think would have taken key staff with him to BP? Didn’t he fire all the Queen’s staff and install his own people? Then KP became Wills’s domain and I guess he brought his people over from (Clarence House? I don’t follow royals closely enough). Maybe they’re all still looking for the stationery cupboard and trying to get their desk phones set up with IT.

Are you coming back @Giovannimilanese ?

Can I steal ‘outbatshitted’ please ? It’s wonderful !!

I don't give two hoots about the royals but I do think this is an interesting news story from a PR professional angle.

The face turned away car photo was authorised/engineered by the royals. We know this because otherwise you wouldn't have seen it published by the British press. Compare with the puffy face / looks like Pippa pap photo from the other week - that one was not published by the British press, only US tabloids etc. So we can deduce that the face turned away photo was to say "look she's OK, still here, please simmer down". Note also that there was only one photo whereas paps usually take zillions. We can also deduce that she doesn't want to show her face at the moment. It's probably for a boring personal reason like she's on steroids, but obviously the internet's gone nuts with she's dead/William's beaten her to a pulp etc.

As someone who's worked in PR and communications, I am fascinated by it because there is no way their comms team could be that inept! So there must be someone in the palace, William or Kate or both, who is so pig-headed they are ignoring the advice of presumably the best comms people in London. (The current issue of Private Eye suggests that indeed Prince William is like this!)

Are… are people really this unhinged?

Good "outbatshitted" going on another thread debating illegitimate children fathered by William 😵‍💫
edit: auto correct!

It's spring. The time the Royal Family have their lizard blood injections. She's clearly had a bad reaction because, unlike most of them, she wasn't hatched from an egg.

You can see in this photo of the family on holiday, that they're happier away from the public glare.