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Privacy Oh Privacy! Why So Cruel?

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WhatAreThey · 12/03/2024 22:25

Why do royal reporters bully a child but ask for respect for an adult?

Privacy Oh Privacy! Why So Cruel?
Privacy Oh Privacy! Why So Cruel?
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Serenster · 13/03/2024 07:14

I did it seems - please post them!

concernedchild · 13/03/2024 07:16

Serenster · 13/03/2024 07:14

I did it seems - please post them!

Google is free my love.

But I think you're always going to hate MM, for no reason

CrispsandCheeseSandwich · 13/03/2024 07:19

Both Kate and Meghan had surrogacy rumours. And it's bizarrely a common thing, plenty of celebrities get accused of faking pregnancies, although I think it happens a bit less now lots of celebs are open about using one.

Privacy Oh Privacy! Why So Cruel?
Privacy Oh Privacy! Why So Cruel?
Ratsoffasinkingsauage · 13/03/2024 07:24

Because you hate Kate 🤷🏻‍♀️

I’ve said it before. This level of attack is doing your saint no favours. The longer it lasts, the more it reveals about the kind of people who obsessively support Meghan.

concernedchild · 13/03/2024 07:25

Ratsoffasinkingsauage · 13/03/2024 07:24

Because you hate Kate 🤷🏻‍♀️

I’ve said it before. This level of attack is doing your saint no favours. The longer it lasts, the more it reveals about the kind of people who obsessively support Meghan.

I don't hate her. I quite like her and hope she gets out of the mess that is the royal family. But I think the deceit on behalf of the palace is very concerning and I am actually quite worried that something more sinister has gone on.

minou123 · 13/03/2024 07:46

AliceOlive · 13/03/2024 01:10

I adamantly supported Meghan‘s privacy during Archie’s birth and was delighted she managed to keep it quiet and make those decisions.

I don’t think these two events are comparable, but fully support everyone, particularly the married-ins, being able to remain as private as they wish, whenever they choose.

I agree with you @AliceOlive

I support the privacy of both women. Both chose to keep parts of their lives privat;e, one when she was in labour and the other the reason for an operation.

Its also the same for the ''photo'.
Both women made choices when to release photos after these private moments.

Kate - released a photo, albeit edited.
Some public and press kicked off and have have criticised her.
It ranges from theories, speculation, conspiracy theories........and then some down right fucked up abuse.

Meghan - stood for a photo call with Archie, albeit 2 days after the birth.
Some public and press kicked off and have critisced her.
It ranges from slightly disappointed that she didn't come out on the steps of the hospital all the way to down right fiucked up abuse.

The common denominator is some public and press don't like it when these two women makes choices for themselves.

I am disappointed, but not surprised, that women are still criticised for the choices they make.

I am going to plagerise what you said AliceOlive:
I fully support women being able to remain as private as they wish, whenever they choose.

Salemforcuddles · 13/03/2024 07:47

concernedchild · 13/03/2024 06:51

The only reason people are saying such things about Kate is the pure dishonesty from day one.

What was the pure dishonesty from day one?

LadyBird1973 · 13/03/2024 07:48

Both women should be entitled to privacy re medical matters. That includes details of when/where they give birth.
And equally, if they want their children to benefit from titles and line of succession, they owe the public a few baby photos when said baby is born!
That's the deal and it's cheap at the price.
It's not bullying a child to say this.

I don't think that photoshop should ever be used in 'news' photos - it just muddies the waters between what is real and what is not and news should always be real. KP ought not to have released that picture or allowed themselves to be pressured into a response.
If there's anything important to know, the public will learn about it in good time - there's no need to pry into a woman's personal business and no entitlement to know everything immediately.

I do agree that M&H are right to keep their children out of public view, for security reasons. Those kids are less protected than the Wales children.

Salemforcuddles · 13/03/2024 07:56

@LadyBird1973 Exactly

Thedrownedprophet · 13/03/2024 08:09

The press were endlessly publishing stories entitled "why do trolls think Megan is faking her pregnancy? Here's why"

Or

"Meghan and the pregnancy truthers"

A very quick google will bring dozens of articles up.

Ratsoffasinkingsauage · 13/03/2024 08:18

The hypocrisy on this thread is staggering.

namechangeduetoimpatience · 13/03/2024 09:14

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AliceOlive · 13/03/2024 09:22

Thedrownedprophet · 13/03/2024 08:09

The press were endlessly publishing stories entitled "why do trolls think Megan is faking her pregnancy? Here's why"

Or

"Meghan and the pregnancy truthers"

A very quick google will bring dozens of articles up.

I never heard these rumors or saw anything about them online until someone frequently posting in support of Meghan brought them to our attention.

No credible media source reported anything like this. It appeared to have come from her nutjob sister and who on earth would listen to that woman?

I always wonder why someone supportive of a woman would repeat the most vile things said about her and spread it further. Any thoughts?

namechangeduetoimpatience · 13/03/2024 09:24

Salemforcuddles · 13/03/2024 07:47

What was the pure dishonesty from day one?

They are lying and covering up something. I am not sure any reasonable person is disputing that at this point.

And in the unlikely event that they aren't, they have made themselves the subject of ridicule. There's no getting away from that.

Wasn't the whole argument against Meghan and Harry that 'we pay, you pose'? That if you take 1% of public funds, then you do as we say? They've made their bed.

If she truly had an operation and needed to rest. They should have stuck by their initial statement and released no updates.

So yes they have lied. It could be a simple reason like she doesn't feel camera. That fair enough tbh. But they have deliberately attempted to manipulate the public.

jeffgoldblum · 13/03/2024 09:27

Let's face it , whether you like the royals or not , whether you like H&M or not , there is no way a fake pregnancy would happen, its ridiculous!
And even if it was remotely possible the children would not be listed as in line for the throne because they wouldn't be allowed .

AliceOlive · 13/03/2024 09:29

namechangeduetoimpatience · 13/03/2024 09:24

They are lying and covering up something. I am not sure any reasonable person is disputing that at this point.

And in the unlikely event that they aren't, they have made themselves the subject of ridicule. There's no getting away from that.

Wasn't the whole argument against Meghan and Harry that 'we pay, you pose'? That if you take 1% of public funds, then you do as we say? They've made their bed.

If she truly had an operation and needed to rest. They should have stuck by their initial statement and released no updates.

So yes they have lied. It could be a simple reason like she doesn't feel camera. That fair enough tbh. But they have deliberately attempted to manipulate the public.

Whose argument was “we pay you pose?”

You subscribed to that?

Mentquit · 13/03/2024 09:41

concernedchild · 13/03/2024 07:04

As Meghan was told, we pay, you pose.

She's nearly two months down the line from the surgery now. She could have posted a natural picture for Mother's Day and nobody would have batted an eyelid. But the dishonesty has meant people will question everything.

What ,so people could bitch and comment about her appearance?
Catherine is probably feeling not up for the vultures and their scrutiny!Probably very vulnerable. It was said she wouldn’t reappear until Easter…what part of that statement is complicated ?
I had a particularly awful pic of myself posted by friend on FB recently…I was mortified,so can only imagine the fear of having a pic published to millions around the world!

namechangeduetoimpatience · 13/03/2024 09:50

Mentquit · 13/03/2024 09:41

What ,so people could bitch and comment about her appearance?
Catherine is probably feeling not up for the vultures and their scrutiny!Probably very vulnerable. It was said she wouldn’t reappear until Easter…what part of that statement is complicated ?
I had a particularly awful pic of myself posted by friend on FB recently…I was mortified,so can only imagine the fear of having a pic published to millions around the world!

They shouldn't have posted anything in the first place. She's entitled to have space to recovered and comeback after Easter.

cornflower21 · 13/03/2024 09:52

Double standards.

Mentquit · 13/03/2024 09:54

namechangeduetoimpatience · 13/03/2024 09:50

They shouldn't have posted anything in the first place. She's entitled to have space to recovered and comeback after Easter.

Yes agree ,but guessing they were pressurised .William should have put his foot down and protected her from this shitshow .

TheMarzipanDildo · 13/03/2024 09:56

Serenster · 13/03/2024 06:27

The press complained about where Meghan gave birth, who delivered the baby and when and how the birth was announced.

The Sussexes played games with the press over Archie’s birth though. Initially they announced said that Archie’s birth was an entirely private matter and they would not be releasing any details about it (which was presumably the stage at which the article above was published?). After this provoked some criticism, they backed down and said they would make an announcement when the Duchess was in labour and then announce the birth.

In due course, the palace announced Meghan was in labour, and the media all started up their “royal baby watch” cycles. Only for the Sussexes to immediately announce Archie’s birth on their instagram feed. He had in fact been born several hours earlier and they were already back at home when they made the “in labour” announcement.

Oh I’d do that. Who’d want bloody reporters crowding you when you’d just given birth?

Prydddan · 13/03/2024 10:25

thisiswheretheseagullfliesaway · 13/03/2024 00:29

The press complained about where Meghan gave birth, who delivered the baby and when and how the birth was announced. When he was here safely they then complained about how he was not out for a photoshoot hours after birth. The press and public openly sneered at their privacy requests.

Two wrongs however do not make a right. Both women have been dehumanised beyond belief. Both women should have had better protection from the RF. The institution are always going to blame the women married in they're expendable if needed the press will turn on a dime and those they've put on a pedestal will have rocks thrown to knock them down a level.

Meanwhile, in background, Meghan was negotiating to sell the first glimpses of her baby to an American TV network.

Freakinfraser · 13/03/2024 10:26

I also disagree the situations are comparable and I’m really surprised at how many people are trying to rope Harry and Megan into this fiasco. They know Kate is ill. They maybe many things but they are not going to leverage this or comment. And the situations of Kate’s illness, is very different. Thr whole situation is different. In so so many ways.

i really do not think the media or the public should pit them against each other, i really doubt either wish this in this situation, and id be very surprised if Megan wanted people to leverage Kate’s illness to show she was poorly treated.

very poor show from those going there.

namechangeduetoimpatience · 13/03/2024 10:32

Prydddan · 13/03/2024 10:25

Meanwhile, in background, Meghan was negotiating to sell the first glimpses of her baby to an American TV network.

And your point is?