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Are Harry, Meghan, Archie and Lili coming back home?

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NotMyPage · 07/03/2024 18:59

It would be nice to have them back and getting along with the rest of the family, what do people think? They'd have to apologise and try to move forward in a positive way. With Charles being unwell and elderly, and the Wales kids too young to serve as working royals, the Sussex's may be needed. Trump may win the election, which could have a negative impact on them and Archie will start school soon, a great time to relocate home?? Apparently Meghan is looking for PR agencies to help her improve her image. Would the Uk welcome them?

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skullbabe · 09/03/2024 10:20

What platform should Meghan have announced her pregnancy that was not public?

DJMaxipad · 09/03/2024 10:25

skullbabe · 09/03/2024 10:20

What platform should Meghan have announced her pregnancy that was not public?

You're obviously being deliberately obtuse here. But maybe it could have been announced on any day other than Pregnancy & Infant Loss Remembrance Day. I don't blame M&H for this. It's the palace who are to blame for announcing this type of thing, and they should have been aware of it. Maybe it was done it to on purpose to stir up trouble. Who knows.

Ratsoffasinkingsauage · 09/03/2024 10:26

As the poster who posted about the insensitive comments about second children making a complete family I want to make it clear that I find the minimisation of insensitive comments about infertility wildly anti-feminist.

Anyone holding up their hands and saying ‘I don’t see what’s wrong’ is part of the problem. Everyone should stop saying stuff like this, not just Meghan. The fact she did it on a public platform, more than once, makes her sound like one of those moronic mummy bloggers. It is hardly a feminist cause to continue mainstream patriarchal tropes about what does and doesn’t make a family.

Women who suffer infertility often do so in silence and shame. Brief days like baby loss awareness day are meant to allow them to speak up. So announcing a pregnancy on that day as a self professed feminist and advocate for women makes someone sound like a tone deaf, self absorbed idiot.

A feminist she isn’t.

Kjones27 · 09/03/2024 10:26

I was watching their documentary recently.

I thought it was interesting that Harry saw her online on Instagram first. And he said instantly he knew that she was the one.

I remember i thought initially how could he have known that. Like why choose her specifically over millions of other women

But if I look at it, it kind of makes sense.

I think that Harry was fed up of the British system. And meghan represented a different world and I think Harry wanted an escape from the world he was in anyway.

skullbabe · 09/03/2024 10:28

The monster.

Serenster · 09/03/2024 10:29

Roussette · 09/03/2024 10:08

And there speaks the voice of reason

We've had whole threads on the fact she holds her hand to her face for pictures and how attention seeking it is.
Endless posts on every single part of her body, let alone anything she says
And if anyone breathes the same air as Meghan, they are pulled apart too whoever they are.
She is dehumanised endlessly

That goes for all the Royals, though, Roussette. They are not seen as human by many many posters. I;ve often asked,but never had answered really, why people who think it’s okay to dehumanise say, Charles, Catherine and William - an do that themselves - only see that when it happens to Meghan?

I found the many comments on the thread of pictures of the Royals interesting in that respect - they remarked that seeing pictures of them in casual settings, laughing and smiling suddenly made them seem human. Telling.

Samcro · 09/03/2024 10:30

so she isn't a feminist because she didn't think of other women.
i am confused. so she can't talk about being happy having a second child.
that makes her not a feminist.

Janiie · 09/03/2024 10:30

Ratsoffasinkingsauage · 09/03/2024 08:50

@Kjones27

The only bully I see here is her fans. The misogyny of the Sussex defenders is horrific, yet they claim to be feminists, like their icon.

Let’s talk about shaming Camilla. Or Catherine. Or shall we just whitewash over all the married men Diana slept with because she is seen as #teammeghan?

We see the hypocrisy. The only women who shall be defended by Team Sussex are the acceptable ones. That is not okay.

Yes it really is fascinating that the very people who defend the Sussexes seem as lacking in self awareness themselves. Not surprising I suppose.

The ability to ignore and minimise all the crap every single member of the rf has experienced whilst parrot the Sussexes line that it is different for them is a masterclass in rewriting history.

Harold brought all this shit on himself with his petulance and constant squealing to the media.

Pushtart · 09/03/2024 10:31

Ratsoffasinkingsauage · 09/03/2024 10:26

As the poster who posted about the insensitive comments about second children making a complete family I want to make it clear that I find the minimisation of insensitive comments about infertility wildly anti-feminist.

Anyone holding up their hands and saying ‘I don’t see what’s wrong’ is part of the problem. Everyone should stop saying stuff like this, not just Meghan. The fact she did it on a public platform, more than once, makes her sound like one of those moronic mummy bloggers. It is hardly a feminist cause to continue mainstream patriarchal tropes about what does and doesn’t make a family.

Women who suffer infertility often do so in silence and shame. Brief days like baby loss awareness day are meant to allow them to speak up. So announcing a pregnancy on that day as a self professed feminist and advocate for women makes someone sound like a tone deaf, self absorbed idiot.

A feminist she isn’t.

Based on your criticisms I am not sure you're a feminist either. Feminists I admire don't go around pointing to women saying ' she's not a feminist' and twisting their words to mean things they don't. They don't call mothers who blog 'moronic mummy bloggers' either. She was talking about her own family, after suffering a loss. You keep ignoring that part while calling yourself a feminist.

Gottseidank · 09/03/2024 10:32

garlicandsapphires · 09/03/2024 09:28

I think people find confident, self assured women hard to stomach. Women should be meek and humble and not say much, like Kate.
disclaimer, I don’t really like MM but can’t stand (and don’t understand) the vitriol she gets.

It isn’t women that are confident and self-assured that are hard to stomach - it’s people that are self-confident without any substance or self-awareness.

Meghan has found herself with a large platform -thanks entirely to her marriage. She has ended up on a forum by paying to be there, she certainly hadn’t earned her profile by merit.

This is a problem because Meghan has very little of substance to contribute and we expect a lot better from someone with such a large platform. Most women in that sort of position have masses of experience, hard-won insights and the benefit of decades of work and authentic collaboration to back them up. Meghan just turns up and talks about herself. It’s amateurish and it’s embarrassing.

Salemforcuddles · 09/03/2024 10:32

It's too simplistic to say it's about bullying or jealousy, there is so much more to it

I thought Meghan was a breath of fresh air and when they decided to leave the royal family I was disappointed but thought good for them if it makes them happy

It's there subsequent actions that I question. Do I think there was racism? Absolutely. Do I think it was difficult to be a member of the family and institution? Yes. Do I think it's likely that stories were leaked to protect William and Kate? Most likely. And for all of that I do have sympathy

What I disagree with is making an 8 episode documentary of woe is me. Of doing an Oprah interview putting the boot into their family, while knowing they are unlikely to be able to respond. Of writing a book disclosing private information, all of which made money for them. Don't question other people values when your own are somewhat dubious

There have been discrepancies in a number of their stories again which makes me question their integrity

There seems to be a real lack of awareness at times. For example , talking about their " small cottage" and in the same breath talking about Grenfell, where people died and families lost their homes.

I work in health and social care, I case manage a man in his 50s with multiple system atrophy, I manage a women in her 40s who can only move her head , rarely a complaint out of either of them. Yet, H and M have spent a lot of time looking for sympathy, while sitting in their mansion, with their lovely family and their millions

They have a lot going for them and I have admired Hs work with Invictus. Its time to put the past behind them and use their wealth, power and status to benefit others as I still believe they have some good intentions

Will they come back here? Dont think so but it would be nice if their could be some reconciliation with their families as I think at times they must feel isolated

Pushtart · 09/03/2024 10:35

I think Serena Williams said something about them and family along the lines of, sometimes friends can become your family. That resonates with me a lot. I am much closer to my friends than my sisters, who I barely know. My friends are my sisters, my kids Aunties and Uncles, and we are always there for each other. So I don't think you are necessarily isolated if you don't have close blood family relationships.

skullbabe · 09/03/2024 10:35

Samcro · 09/03/2024 10:30

so she isn't a feminist because she didn't think of other women.
i am confused. so she can't talk about being happy having a second child.
that makes her not a feminist.

That’s the sum of it. Happy having her second child. Misogynistic woman happily having second children at other women.

Janiie · 09/03/2024 10:37

Do any of the sussex fans actually see all the online hysteria and nasty comments about Kate?? Daring to be ill and out of the public eye, there's so much vitriol aimed at her.

The internet is full of unkind comments. It is no different for the 2 flouncers.

Well, slightly different in that Harry has revealed private info and made a career out of being a backstabbing blabber but scrutiny wise its all absolutely equal.

Ratsoffasinkingsauage · 09/03/2024 10:37

The phrasing is what is important to me. Of course other people have second, third, forth children. As many as they like.

It is the phrasing that suggests anyone without a second child isn’t a parent or doesn’t have a full family. That is either stupidly ignorant or deliberately spiteful. Neither is a good look from someone who professes to stand up for women.

Yet again, this wouldn’t be an issue if anyone who posts about her (or even Meghan herself) could hold their hands up and admit that it was an insensitive thing to say. Instead you all go full DARVO to try to defend her. And in the process try to minimise, gaslight and attack. It is really offensive, insensitive behaviour.

But crack on. Because all your are doing is revealing the deeply toxic dark heart of misogyny in Sussex fandom.

Gottseidank · 09/03/2024 10:38

skullbabe · 09/03/2024 10:28

The monster.

This reminds me a bit of when my dd was little, and every time she learnt a ‘clever’ new word she’d try to shoehorn it into every other sentence, whether it made sense or not.

Wholesale dismissal of valid criticism as ‘monstering’ is not going to win you any arguments.

Kjones27 · 09/03/2024 10:38

Ratsoffasinkingsauage · 09/03/2024 10:26

As the poster who posted about the insensitive comments about second children making a complete family I want to make it clear that I find the minimisation of insensitive comments about infertility wildly anti-feminist.

Anyone holding up their hands and saying ‘I don’t see what’s wrong’ is part of the problem. Everyone should stop saying stuff like this, not just Meghan. The fact she did it on a public platform, more than once, makes her sound like one of those moronic mummy bloggers. It is hardly a feminist cause to continue mainstream patriarchal tropes about what does and doesn’t make a family.

Women who suffer infertility often do so in silence and shame. Brief days like baby loss awareness day are meant to allow them to speak up. So announcing a pregnancy on that day as a self professed feminist and advocate for women makes someone sound like a tone deaf, self absorbed idiot.

A feminist she isn’t.

I had to look it up to see what exactly happened with meghan and baby loss awareness week.

Ah, I see it was another headline by the dailymail, to incite hatred.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6277175/Harry-Meghan-announce-pregnancy-final-day-Baby-Loss-Awareness-Week.html

Of course.

Harry and Meghan announce pregnancy on Baby Loss Awareness Week

Bereaved parents have hit out at the unfortunate timing of the Duke and Duchess of Sussex's pregnancy announcement, which fell on Baby Loss Awareness Week.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6277175/Harry-Meghan-announce-pregnancy-final-day-Baby-Loss-Awareness-Week.html

Kjones27 · 09/03/2024 10:40

Ratsoffasinkingsauage · 09/03/2024 10:37

The phrasing is what is important to me. Of course other people have second, third, forth children. As many as they like.

It is the phrasing that suggests anyone without a second child isn’t a parent or doesn’t have a full family. That is either stupidly ignorant or deliberately spiteful. Neither is a good look from someone who professes to stand up for women.

Yet again, this wouldn’t be an issue if anyone who posts about her (or even Meghan herself) could hold their hands up and admit that it was an insensitive thing to say. Instead you all go full DARVO to try to defend her. And in the process try to minimise, gaslight and attack. It is really offensive, insensitive behaviour.

But crack on. Because all your are doing is revealing the deeply toxic dark heart of misogyny in Sussex fandom.

But i don't agree with you that it was an insensitive thing for her to say.

Do you ever think that you might be wrong?

Pushtart · 09/03/2024 10:40

Ratsoffasinkingsauage · 09/03/2024 10:37

The phrasing is what is important to me. Of course other people have second, third, forth children. As many as they like.

It is the phrasing that suggests anyone without a second child isn’t a parent or doesn’t have a full family. That is either stupidly ignorant or deliberately spiteful. Neither is a good look from someone who professes to stand up for women.

Yet again, this wouldn’t be an issue if anyone who posts about her (or even Meghan herself) could hold their hands up and admit that it was an insensitive thing to say. Instead you all go full DARVO to try to defend her. And in the process try to minimise, gaslight and attack. It is really offensive, insensitive behaviour.

But crack on. Because all your are doing is revealing the deeply toxic dark heart of misogyny in Sussex fandom.

It doesn't suggest that though, it's how you choose to interpret her words about her family after she lost a child.

Because all your are doing is revealing the deeply toxic dark heart of misogyny in Sussex fandom.

This comment is too personal to ignore, please stop with this. It's unpleasant and unfair to do to other posters who simply have a different opinion.

Kjones27 · 09/03/2024 10:41

Pushtart · 09/03/2024 10:35

I think Serena Williams said something about them and family along the lines of, sometimes friends can become your family. That resonates with me a lot. I am much closer to my friends than my sisters, who I barely know. My friends are my sisters, my kids Aunties and Uncles, and we are always there for each other. So I don't think you are necessarily isolated if you don't have close blood family relationships.

My colleague said that to me the other day :

"my friends are my family"

Ratsoffasinkingsauage · 09/03/2024 10:42

I won’t stop pointing out double standards. How you can all think you are doing the right thing is really beyond me. Stop minimising the hurt caused by such deeply insensitive comments. The ridicule and snipping is awful. You are doing exactly what you accuse other of doing to Meghan. How can you not see that?

Kjones27 · 09/03/2024 10:44

Ratsoffasinkingsauage · 09/03/2024 10:42

I won’t stop pointing out double standards. How you can all think you are doing the right thing is really beyond me. Stop minimising the hurt caused by such deeply insensitive comments. The ridicule and snipping is awful. You are doing exactly what you accuse other of doing to Meghan. How can you not see that?

Omg.

Samcro · 09/03/2024 10:45

Sussex fandom the childish put down.
just because you don't agree with someone, it doesn't make you right. throwing around childish insults is ......well childish.
(the only thing i would call myself a fan of is a certain metal band)

YetMoreNewBeginnings · 09/03/2024 10:45

Pushtart · 09/03/2024 10:35

I think Serena Williams said something about them and family along the lines of, sometimes friends can become your family. That resonates with me a lot. I am much closer to my friends than my sisters, who I barely know. My friends are my sisters, my kids Aunties and Uncles, and we are always there for each other. So I don't think you are necessarily isolated if you don't have close blood family relationships.

I think that’s true to an extent. I have a cushion bought by my DH’s MiL (he was a widow when I met him) that says “Friends are just family we choose for ourselves”.

So there is a truth in that. You need good, solid, long term friend though and that’s not always easy to find, or keep.

Janiie · 09/03/2024 10:46

Kjones27 · 09/03/2024 10:41

My colleague said that to me the other day :

"my friends are my family"

Well no. Friends are friends and family are relatives. You can of course be very close to friends and nc with family but that doesn't change the definition.

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