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Are Harry, Meghan, Archie and Lili coming back home?

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NotMyPage · 07/03/2024 18:59

It would be nice to have them back and getting along with the rest of the family, what do people think? They'd have to apologise and try to move forward in a positive way. With Charles being unwell and elderly, and the Wales kids too young to serve as working royals, the Sussex's may be needed. Trump may win the election, which could have a negative impact on them and Archie will start school soon, a great time to relocate home?? Apparently Meghan is looking for PR agencies to help her improve her image. Would the Uk welcome them?

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Salemforcuddles · 09/03/2024 09:24

@Ratsoffasinkingsauage I'm sorry, I have been there 💐

Lockupyourbiscuits · 09/03/2024 09:26

Kjones27 · 09/03/2024 09:06

I'm sorry you had miscarriages/ infertility issues.

But don't assume that the rest of us have never had misscarriages. Miscarriages are very, very common.

This is a very unkind post

garlicandsapphires · 09/03/2024 09:28

Kjones27 · 08/03/2024 23:27

I agree.

Some of the hatred against meghan is at a level that is really surprising in this day and age.

Is it just racism? That could be part of it.
But It can't solely be down to racism.

Is it jealousy? Ie meghan gets to be a duchess and I will never be one.

But then , why aren't people jealous to the same extent of Kate?

Is it a mob mentality of people ganging up on someone?

I think people find confident, self assured women hard to stomach. Women should be meek and humble and not say much, like Kate.
disclaimer, I don’t really like MM but can’t stand (and don’t understand) the vitriol she gets.

DSDaisy · 09/03/2024 09:29

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Pushtart · 09/03/2024 09:30

Is it a mob mentality of people ganging up on someone?

Mostly it is this, yes. To a much smaller extent you see it happen to others, both famous people and ordinary people. The term pack mentality I think is used mostly with regard to men, but it's a society wide thing, and it's very real. You see it happening all the time, but with Meghan it's just many more people involved.

JSMill · 09/03/2024 09:36

I read M wants to be an 'advocate for those who felt unheard'. Yet she uses the platform she had yesterday to talk about herself. She didn't even attempt to relate her experience of online abuse to the wider problem, such as cyber bullying of teenage girls. I also can't believe she spoke about women abusing other women on International Women's Day. I think she's done that before. I don't think she's actually that much of a feminist.

LadyMuckonpancakes · 09/03/2024 09:41

Gottseidank · 09/03/2024 07:59

Meghan is a bit like a contestant on one of those game shows like I’m a Celebrity get me out of here or Celeb Big Brother. She’s someone who has been given a chance at fame but has been voted off by the public. Yet she simply refuses to leave.

Meghan’s behaviour has alienated her from many: objectively, she isn’t a popular figure. She often comes across as false, pretentious and unlikeable and her behaviour makes people uncomfortable.

Rather than acknowledging this phenomenon and retreating for a few years, taking a back seat, Meghan and Harry keep positioning themselves front and centre - even purchasing opportunities such as this one to give themselves yet more opportunities to tell/sell their story. This is because they can’t seem to imagine a world where the fact they are disliked isn’t at least partly their own fault. It has to be some sort of conspiracy, the media, leaks from the RF, racism, social media etc

And so Meghan uses the forum to talk about herself some more, and to tell the public, yet again, how badly she has been treated and victimised (whilst quietly humble-bragging about her good fortune, and showcasing her expensive wardrobe). Perhaps she secretly thinks her detractors are just jealous and wants to wind them up.

Many people won’t hear talk about her being trolled during her pregnancy and feel empathy - perhaps because they will remember her appearing on Oprah when pregnant and launching indefensible broadsides at the royals. Or they will remember her announcing her own pregnancy on Stillbirth awareness day or accusing Kate of having “baby brain” shortly after Louis was born.

Katie Couric must surely have been trolling her when she encouraged Meghan to talk (yet again!) about her school project letter to Proctor & Gamble. The predictability of Meghan’s spiel and her lack of depth (the word salad) only exacerbates the public’s irritation.

The reality that escapes Meghan (and her supporters) is that for the most part the detractors aren’t jealous. They don’t hate her. They aren’t racists. They simply find her (and Harry) obnoxious and irritating.

This is why Meghan and Harry are losing contracts - and the reason they need to spend vast sums on PR. It’s a losing game though because the public has already voted.

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Absolutely spot on.

Kjones27 · 09/03/2024 09:44

Lockupyourbiscuits · 09/03/2024 09:26

This is a very unkind post

No it isn't. She said to me "unless you've had a miscarriage yourself , you don't get to tell me what to be offended about'.

I then said to her "don't assume that other people haven't had miscarriages. Miscarriage is very common in women".

I've personally had a miscarriage. My mum had a very late miscarriage. Both of my cousins have had miscarriages. Sadly it is very common

Kjones27 · 09/03/2024 09:46

I still don't think that meghan saying "now we are a family" has anything remotely to do with other women's miscarriages/infertility issues. Like it doesn't.

Kjones27 · 09/03/2024 09:48

And as people have pointed out on this thread.

Meghan also lost a baby before she had Lilli.

DJMaxipad · 09/03/2024 09:50

Kjones27 · 09/03/2024 09:46

I still don't think that meghan saying "now we are a family" has anything remotely to do with other women's miscarriages/infertility issues. Like it doesn't.

That specific poster has told you, multiple times, how and why that comment from MM personally upset them. If it doesn't upset you, that's great. It upset them. It's completely valid for them to feel that way about a comment that was misguided at best. Why do you feel the need to continue banging on about this?

Kjones27 · 09/03/2024 09:53

DJMaxipad · 09/03/2024 09:50

That specific poster has told you, multiple times, how and why that comment from MM personally upset them. If it doesn't upset you, that's great. It upset them. It's completely valid for them to feel that way about a comment that was misguided at best. Why do you feel the need to continue banging on about this?

Read back.

I'm replying to other posters.

A poster said.

"Of course it doesn't. Meghan lost a baby too. Honestly people search for things to be personally offended by that have nothing to do with them. The twisting of words to make them personal, nasty or deliberate, its childish and tiresome."

pilates · 09/03/2024 09:59

Please drop it Kjones. It’s uncomfortable to read your posts. You’ve made your point.

DJMaxipad · 09/03/2024 10:00

Kjones27 · 09/03/2024 09:53

Read back.

I'm replying to other posters.

A poster said.

"Of course it doesn't. Meghan lost a baby too. Honestly people search for things to be personally offended by that have nothing to do with them. The twisting of words to make them personal, nasty or deliberate, its childish and tiresome."

@Kjones27 I don't need to ‘read back’ thank you. I've read every single post you've posted. I don't care if you're replying to other posters, you're still talking about someone who told you why they were upset by these comments. You've relentlessly posted on why their feelings are wrong for hours now. It's gross.

Pushtart · 09/03/2024 10:00

pilates · 09/03/2024 09:59

Please drop it Kjones. It’s uncomfortable to read your posts. You’ve made your point.

Actually I don't think she is the problem, its all of you piling on to try and twist other posters words or silence her form sharing her own experience and responding to someone directly accusing her of something. You drop it.

Pushtart · 09/03/2024 10:01

@DJMaxipad what's gross is you continually telling off a woman who just shared her own experience.

Everyone needs to stop making other peoples words and experiences about them. Meghan lost a child, then had Lili and felt her family was complete. It is not about any of you. Stop weaponising trauma to take a pop.

Kjones27 · 09/03/2024 10:01

pilates · 09/03/2024 09:59

Please drop it Kjones. It’s uncomfortable to read your posts. You’ve made your point.

Newsflash for you. You dont speak for everyone.

It's not uncomfortable for everyone as I just got a thanks on my last post.

So no I won't drop anything.

Pushtart · 09/03/2024 10:03

She’s someone who has been given a chance at fame but has been voted off by the public

Except she hasn't. It sucks for all the bullies out there trying to make her hide away, but tough shit. She can do what she pleases.

skullbabe · 09/03/2024 10:04

Yet she uses the platform she had yesterday to talk about herself.

Everyone on that panel talked about themselves in addition to the representation of women in media and their own understanding of it. It’s 40 minutes - you might be surprised.

DJMaxipad · 09/03/2024 10:07

Pushtart · 09/03/2024 10:01

@DJMaxipad what's gross is you continually telling off a woman who just shared her own experience.

Everyone needs to stop making other peoples words and experiences about them. Meghan lost a child, then had Lili and felt her family was complete. It is not about any of you. Stop weaponising trauma to take a pop.

Continually? I've posted twice in this thread. And ironically you're telling me I can't speak out against someone who is actually, repeatedly, minimising and criticising someone else's feelings and experience. Pathetically hypocritical.

Roussette · 09/03/2024 10:08

skullbabe · 09/03/2024 09:18

Like I said before Meghan has been monstered by so many that there is nothing that she can do except not exist that will make many of the people on this thread happy. Every sentence she speaks is filtered through the villain translator to be the worst thing anyone could possibly say at all times. So of course announcing her pregnancy is filtered through as an attack on people who’ve struggled with pregnancy loss, of course her saying she’s happy with her 2 children is taken as an attack on people who struggle with getting pregnant or with pregnancy loss. Because she’s not a human being to them.

And there speaks the voice of reason

We've had whole threads on the fact she holds her hand to her face for pictures and how attention seeking it is.
Endless posts on every single part of her body, let alone anything she says
And if anyone breathes the same air as Meghan, they are pulled apart too whoever they are.
She is dehumanised endlessly

MaturingCheeseball · 09/03/2024 10:15

It’s not that Meghan made an insensitive comment (same has happened plenty to me and each time was a stab through the heart) but that she made it on a public platform . It’s not that she is being intentionally mean (you would hope) but thoughtless. And if you are positioning yourself as a humanitarian etc you have to think a bit about sounding smug or self-centred.

Pushtart · 09/03/2024 10:17

MaturingCheeseball · 09/03/2024 10:15

It’s not that Meghan made an insensitive comment (same has happened plenty to me and each time was a stab through the heart) but that she made it on a public platform . It’s not that she is being intentionally mean (you would hope) but thoughtless. And if you are positioning yourself as a humanitarian etc you have to think a bit about sounding smug or self-centred.

talking about your own family is personal. You're all reaching for something to be offended by.

Kjones27 · 09/03/2024 10:19

Changing the topic.

Meghan said that when she started getting serious with harry, her English friend said "you shouldn't do it , the UK press will tear you apart".
And meghan said "what the press! No!"

She said much later that she was naive.

I did think "how could she be that naive".

Mylovelygreendress · 09/03/2024 10:20

Kjones27 · 09/03/2024 09:48

And as people have pointed out on this thread.

Meghan also lost a baby before she had Lilli.

And hijacked another woman’s words to talk about it .

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