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Are Harry, Meghan, Archie and Lili coming back home?

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NotMyPage · 07/03/2024 18:59

It would be nice to have them back and getting along with the rest of the family, what do people think? They'd have to apologise and try to move forward in a positive way. With Charles being unwell and elderly, and the Wales kids too young to serve as working royals, the Sussex's may be needed. Trump may win the election, which could have a negative impact on them and Archie will start school soon, a great time to relocate home?? Apparently Meghan is looking for PR agencies to help her improve her image. Would the Uk welcome them?

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CoffeeCantata · 08/03/2024 10:18

Namechangeduetoimpatience

You can question if she tried hard enough to fit in the RF but she’s not lazy.

I still don’t think the RF did enough to assimilate her. How is it that an institution THAT size, that rules the commonwealth couldn’t accommodate the first mixed race senior royal?

I would never accuse Meghan of laziness - far from it!

I don't agree with the second point here though - as other pps have mentioned, the RF was absolutely delighted to welcome her at first - it was a huge PR opportunity to modernise and make the monarchy more inclusive and relevant to the British people. They bent over backwards to integrate her and induct her into the institution.

She never planned to 'fit in' with the role expected of her. I don't think she had any intention of learning about or complying with protocol - she isn't the sort of person who defers to others' knowledge or...in any other way really! And that's fine - I get it - but that makes being part of the RF impossible.

So when Meghan and Harry fans are claiming they see 'hatred' on these threads from we Olde Forelocke Tuggeres, I think it's really irritation with people who want to have it both ways. I completely get the not wanting to be part of the RF but please stop using your meaningless (in the US) titles and get on with living a separate, private life not based on a connection which you have both done a huge amount to destroy. That's what most people object to - the utter hypocrisy and brass-neck-ness of these two Royal Pains.

HoppingPavlova · 08/03/2024 10:22

Nope. They are very much viewed as ‘snakes in the grass’.

Prydddan · 08/03/2024 10:32

NotMyPage · 08/03/2024 09:58

I'm sure it doesn't need pointing out but this is Mumsnet, not a peer reviewed journal.

It was a clap-back at skullbabe, and I am glad you agree with me.

StormzyinaTCup · 08/03/2024 11:50

TallerSally · 08/03/2024 11:17

Is thread a tad.... predictable?...

I suspect that if Harry and Meghan were forced to choose between returning to the UK and moving to Norilsk, they wouldn't hesitate to choose the latter...

https://storymaps.arcgis.com/stories/7494833b96734853af1f38eee3b1587c

Thread a tad predictable …… yup

Interesting article though, I think it has a few plus points for them, however, on the downside I don’t think TMZ cover that neck of the woods do they? 😉

Roussette · 08/03/2024 11:57

namechangeduetoimpatience · 08/03/2024 07:18

Gosh, some of you!

Why would they? Put down the DM!

Outside the relatively small bubble of royal family fanatics, most people do not hate H&M as much as some of you think. I’m not the biggest Meghan fan but in 2024, nobody is turning their nose down at an accomplished woman. You don’t have to like her but she not ‘supposedly intelligent’, she’s educated and made a fairly decent life for herself before getting involved with the RF. Money isn’t everything, but she was the only self made millionaire amongst the senior royals. You can question if she tried hard enough to fit in the RF but she’s not lazy.

I still don’t think the RF did enough to assimilate her. How is it that an institution THAT size, that rules the commonwealth couldn’t accommodate the first mixed race senior royal? Nothing could be done? And Before anyone asks why they should, go look at the list of commonwealth countries. I’m sorry but the RF doesn’t look good here and that fact that some of you can’t see it explains a lot. Also explains why the RF sent Kate and William to Jamaica for that visit. Are they that out of touch?

Half the actions/quotes that are attributed to Meghan are actually Harry’s but some you can’t move beyond blaming her for everything. If you were Meghan, why would you want to return to the RF? For what reason? She was ok before and she will be ok after.

The future looks more like H&M than W&K.

The RF is important to British culture and heritage but after Queen Elizabeth the institution is not the same.

Great post. My thoughts exactly

Pushtart · 08/03/2024 11:59

Roussette · 08/03/2024 11:57

Great post. My thoughts exactly

Me too.

StormzyinaTCup · 08/03/2024 12:01

So when Meghan and Harry fans are claiming they see 'hatred' on these threads from we Olde Forelocke Tuggeres, I think it's really irritation with people who want to have it both ways. I completely get the not wanting to be part of the RF but please stop using your meaningless (in the US) titles and get on with living a separate, private life not based on a connection which you have both done a huge amount to destroy. That's what most people object to - the utter hypocrisy and brass-neck-ness of these two Royal Pains.

👍🏻👍🏻

Pushtart · 08/03/2024 12:04

That's what most people object to - the utter hypocrisy

Thats funny... I would repeat that back at everyone criticising Harry and Meghan endlessly, including the RF. SO much hypocrisy.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 08/03/2024 12:08

(People) seem to feel offended that anyone would call the awful institution and press out for what they are now that she’s lived it and seen the inner workings

Actually some of us agree about the "awful institution", the press and much more; it's just that we feel there are ways to behave even when disagreeing with something and that the way H&M have carried on isn't it

Apart from that I'm not even sure where this latest thing about "Will they come back" has come from, unless it's more silliness kicked off by the Mail, etc?

Vespanest · 08/03/2024 12:11

The republican argument doesn’t work in defending a couple who wish to remain royal and pass that royalty through the next generation.

Gettingbysomehow · 08/03/2024 12:11

There is no way those two spoilt brats would ever come back here if it means playing second fiddle to William and Katherine.

Pushtart · 08/03/2024 12:12

She never planned to 'fit in' with the role expected of her.

I wonder what that means? Put up with the press intrusion, the lies, the misogyny and racism?

It's interesting because these past few weeks thats what a lot of the discussion around the family has been, that the role we expect William to fill, and yes Kate too, is not being met, and that hasn't gone down well with some royal supporters.

We expect them to provide certainty, to forgo some privacy and to be seen, and 'working'. We have not had that this year so far to the degree we expect from their roles- indeed many don't feel Kate and William have ever done that adequately. No thats not meaning Kate has to be seen while ill, but she is expected to make statements and be heard from, even when recovering. William should have stepped up more for his father, an expectation with his role. He has not done that in many peoples eyes. If they want a reduced role, there are other adjustments that need to be made to go along with that.

The expectations always seem to be higher for Meghan.

TallerSally · 08/03/2024 12:23

This likely tabloid-fabricated idea that M&H would even contemplate returning to the UK sounds like just a fishing exercise for new ways to slag them off - perhaps new talking points for poor old uncle Gary, who's not exactly pulling in the crowds on CBB?

Anyway, going along with the ludicrous premise that M&H are bored of their idyllic life in Montecito, another place they could consider moving to, alongside the UK, is planet Mars.

After all, they are about as likely to stay alive on radioactive, frozen, oxygen-less Mars as they are in the UK, where they'd have no protection against the loonies trying to strip them naked and hurl excrement at them (courtesy of that fading Jeremy Clarkson), dismember them limb from limb (courtesy of that eedjat Piers Morgan), metropolitan police racist WhatsApp groups, credible death threats, their children compared to chimpanzees, daily insults on social media...

Yup, makes sense, M&H are about to move back to the UK!

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/life-on-mars-may-have-been-its-own-worst-enemy/

Mars's Jezero Crater

Life on Mars May Have Been Its Own Worst Enemy

A new study suggests that billions of years ago microbes may have thrived on Mars before succumbing to freezing temperatures of their own making

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/life-on-mars-may-have-been-its-own-worst-enemy

skullbabe · 08/03/2024 13:10

Actually he was quite clear that what he really wanted was “half in, half out”.

I disagree. Harry always wanted to leave. He thought he could do “half in/half out” once he was with Meghan and had Archie.

Roussette · 08/03/2024 13:14

Exactly @TallerSally

Why on earth would they want to come back here? If they did not only MN would implode but also the media, let alone some posters heads when they had run out of new insults to call them! I keep thinking I've seen every rude name known to man since the day Meghan walked on the scene, then up pops a new one!

Viviennemary · 08/03/2024 13:28

No. They were far too free with their tale telling and woe is me attitude to ever be welcomed back as trusted members. That's my opinion. Apparently Harry asked to take on royal duties again since Kate and Charles are out of action but was told no. Good decision.

skullbabe · 08/03/2024 13:29

Prydddan · 08/03/2024 09:51

Citation needed.

Sure - will source later on but there is video of William and Harry together in an interview with a US interviewer where Harry expressed what he wanted for the future. If thread hasn’t filled up will find and post.

Gottseidank · 08/03/2024 13:30

skullbabe · 08/03/2024 13:10

Actually he was quite clear that what he really wanted was “half in, half out”.

I disagree. Harry always wanted to leave. He thought he could do “half in/half out” once he was with Meghan and had Archie.

Always wanted to leave? Don’t make me laugh 😂 It’s pretty clear always wanted to be the heir, or failing that, the star of the show.

Meghan shared that doomed ambition. When they realised it was never going to happen for them, they tried something else.

One question his cheer squad never answers: If Harry “always wanted to leave”, why did they assume those completely unnecessary (and rather ridiculous) titles for their children? Why the pompous new website emblazoned with Royal crests? Why the monogrammed doormats? These things really expose H&M’s “departure” for what it was, a fit of pique followed by a desperate attempt to get half-in/out by stealth.

Roussette · 08/03/2024 13:31

Viviennemary · 08/03/2024 13:28

No. They were far too free with their tale telling and woe is me attitude to ever be welcomed back as trusted members. That's my opinion. Apparently Harry asked to take on royal duties again since Kate and Charles are out of action but was told no. Good decision.

How do you know this?

You are stating something I have never heard of, as fact, so I'd like to know

skullbabe · 08/03/2024 13:32

Prydddan · 08/03/2024 10:32

It was a clap-back at skullbabe, and I am glad you agree with me.

Oh I didn’t realise it wasn’t in good faith. Nevermind 👍🏽.

TallerSally · 08/03/2024 13:33

Roussette · 08/03/2024 13:14

Exactly @TallerSally

Why on earth would they want to come back here? If they did not only MN would implode but also the media, let alone some posters heads when they had run out of new insults to call them! I keep thinking I've seen every rude name known to man since the day Meghan walked on the scene, then up pops a new one!

So true!

It's like a creative writing competition: who can come up with the most creative insults for Harry and Meghan!

What Z-lister, nonentity or fading celebrity can we give a front-page platform to, just because they've thrown some fancy-sounding (or not!) insults M&H's way?

We've had so many "thrown the RF under the bus", "trading on their titles for money", "liars", "whingers" etc etc for so many years that it's now become more boring than hell, so what's the next set of talking points we can come up with!???

Some H&M-insulting creativity, puhleeeeeeease!

Gottseidank · 08/03/2024 13:33

Roussette · 08/03/2024 13:31

How do you know this?

You are stating something I have never heard of, as fact, so I'd like to know

It was reported by his preferred mouthpiece (Telegraph) and he never denied it, so it was probably true.

Unlike the RF, Harry isn’t of the “never complain” persuasion - he’s usually quick to deny stories he’s unhappy with

Roussette · 08/03/2024 13:34

Harry was always a square peg in a round hole within the RF. Thank goodness he met Meghan and left. Best decision all round

Gottseidank · 08/03/2024 13:35

Roussette · 08/03/2024 13:34

Harry was always a square peg in a round hole within the RF. Thank goodness he met Meghan and left. Best decision all round

Now that’s something we can probably all agree with!

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